| -Slaughtering people because a fucking book was burnt is insane. |
cali |
Apr-01-11 03:24 PM |
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It would make more sense to me, based on the eye for eye, tooth for |
Obamanaut |
Apr-01-11 03:29 PM |
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Irony: the "eye for eye" & "tooth for tooth" law was established to *prevent* escalation |
yodermon |
Apr-01-11 03:40 PM |
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If god was real, and omnipotent, |
catenary |
Apr-01-11 03:29 PM |
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Yes. Some religions really overreact to perceived disrespect. |
Nye Bevan |
Apr-01-11 03:32 PM |
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Serrano has since moved on to poop |
RZM |
Apr-01-11 03:47 PM |
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Holy Shit! |
Ezlivin |
Apr-01-11 06:31 PM |
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Well, we all know those Muslims, all of them apparently, |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 03:50 PM |
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The Iraq war was led by a Christian crusader who, according to |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 05:05 PM |
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+100 |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-01-11 08:53 PM |
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An excellent point, Sabrina |
davidthegnome |
Apr-01-11 11:49 PM |
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That is not the point... |
Rebubula |
Apr-01-11 03:53 PM |
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You are also comparing different countries. This asshole's legally protected right was here in USA |
uppityperson |
Apr-01-11 04:48 PM |
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no, for some people it's about hyping the worst aspects of islam so they can hype their middle- |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-01-11 08:54 PM |
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+ 1000 |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 01:46 AM |
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Agreed /nt |
Bragi |
Apr-02-11 06:16 AM |
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No, but the irrational ignorant ones that murder are murderers, same as the christians that do it. |
Maine_Nurse |
Apr-01-11 04:06 PM |
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Then say that. There is nothing in the OP that makes that clear |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 04:52 PM |
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There is not one thing in the OP that implies that Muslims as a whole or that |
cali |
Apr-01-11 05:16 PM |
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Nor is there isn't anything in it that |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 05:19 PM |
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Apr-01-11 06:24 PM |
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Yep /nt |
Bragi |
Apr-02-11 06:17 AM |
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Seriously, where are you getting this stuff? |
RZM |
Apr-01-11 04:07 PM |
#41 |
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Wow, your knee must hurt. nt |
woo me with science |
Apr-01-11 07:28 PM |
#114 |
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Why are you apologizing for them? |
NuclearDem |
Apr-02-11 07:37 AM |
#148 |
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Was that comment mistakenly directed to me? |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 01:17 PM |
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Ever try burning a Bible in Mississippi? |
Keith Bee |
Apr-02-11 08:32 PM |
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So burning the book was a success |
Turbineguy |
Apr-01-11 03:35 PM |
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killing people over a book being burned is insane. |
cali |
Apr-01-11 03:37 PM |
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I agree |
Turbineguy |
Apr-01-11 03:40 PM |
#9 |
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Yes, Ma'am, It Is |
The Magistrate |
Apr-01-11 03:37 PM |
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a little background? |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-01-11 03:38 PM |
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not me too. nt |
Obamanaut |
Apr-01-11 03:46 PM |
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Yours has more info than mine. Thanks for that. nt |
Obamanaut |
Apr-01-11 03:45 PM |
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The pastor in the news awhile back threatening to burn korans, did in |
Obamanaut |
Apr-01-11 03:44 PM |
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so these people ctually declared that they did that because of the book burning |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-01-11 03:46 PM |
#18 |
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If you believe them... |
jberryhill |
Apr-01-11 03:48 PM |
#21 |
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We gotta BINGO!! |
darkstar3 |
Apr-02-11 01:56 AM |
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Yes it is |
atreides1 |
Apr-01-11 03:41 PM |
#11 |
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ratfucker or asswipe |
cali |
Apr-01-11 03:44 PM |
#13 |
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Your third paragraph; has something like that happened? |
Old Troop |
Apr-01-11 05:29 PM |
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Don't know |
exboyfil |
Apr-01-11 05:35 PM |
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Agree based on title alone. |
Rex |
Apr-01-11 03:43 PM |
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Slaughtering people for oil is also insane. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 03:47 PM |
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You know what else is insane? |
RZM |
Apr-01-11 03:51 PM |
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I have noticed that |
RZM |
Apr-01-11 03:59 PM |
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it's the flip side of the coin. not as dangerous, of course, but no, I don't think they have a clue |
cali |
Apr-01-11 04:00 PM |
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Just one would be sufficient. But this OP provides no information |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 04:42 PM |
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Those who weren't part of the mob obviously aren't culpable |
cali |
Apr-01-11 04:47 PM |
#49 |
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Do you have any Muslim American friends? |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 04:59 PM |
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No it's not any of my fucking business, but this is a discussion |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 05:45 PM |
#83 |
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It's clear on the available evidence that *someone* is having trouble "handling" this discussion. |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-01-11 05:53 PM |
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This is called "projection." n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-01-11 06:04 PM |
#93 |
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Not by me |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 06:09 PM |
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It is the textbook definition of "projection." n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-02-11 03:05 PM |
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It's a developing story |
RZM |
Apr-01-11 04:49 PM |
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'Homies'??? Are you accusing me of being a Freeper? |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 05:16 PM |
#61 |
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LOL I was talking about RT |
RZM |
Apr-01-11 05:25 PM |
#67 |
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The reference is childish then, as RT is one of many news |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 05:42 PM |
#79 |
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Agreed. Thanks n/t |
RZM |
Apr-01-11 05:59 PM |
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As A Matter Of Curiousity, Ma'am, Do You Consider Everything Equivalent And Interchangeable? |
The Magistrate |
Apr-01-11 03:59 PM |
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I would not say that 'everything' is equivalent and interchangeable' |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 05:39 PM |
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People have lynched for blasphemy of many religions. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-01-11 06:24 PM |
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Apr-01-11 06:31 PM |
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Best To Just Admit You Are Over-Reaching, Ma'am, And Have Done With It |
The Magistrate |
Apr-01-11 09:33 PM |
#125 |
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Did someone make excuses for what was done by the |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 01:08 PM |
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Actually, Ma'am, You Are: You Are Making The Claim The Killings Were Justified |
The Magistrate |
Apr-02-11 08:49 PM |
#193 |
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And now you have lost credibility. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-03-11 01:37 AM |
#198 |
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Well Done, Sir. |
joshcryer |
Apr-02-11 08:49 AM |
#155 |
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Actually no, not so well done. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 01:45 PM |
#165 |
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That does not follow at all. It was simply pointed out to you that resource wars... |
joshcryer |
Apr-02-11 01:47 PM |
#166 |
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There is nothing rational and sane about the belief that |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 01:59 PM |
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I'm sorry, but that's how almost all wars are fought. |
joshcryer |
Apr-02-11 02:07 PM |
#168 |
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In the mind of a serial killer, everything HE does is sane also. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 03:56 PM |
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No, we're talking about sanity as defined by external sources. |
joshcryer |
Apr-02-11 05:36 PM |
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Let me try to understand your 'reasoning'. It is 'sane' to kill |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 06:53 PM |
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Capitalism exists. Religious deities do not. |
joshcryer |
Apr-02-11 07:47 PM |
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Global Capitalist Wars and the theft of resources from |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 08:21 PM |
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No, it cannot, period, full stop. Globalization is here, it exists now, it is all encompasing. |
joshcryer |
Apr-02-11 08:31 PM |
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Well, I can go along with you up to a point. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 08:53 PM |
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I just explained that the insanity defense cannot be used in capitalism. |
joshcryer |
Apr-03-11 01:54 AM |
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Very Good. What would be the purpose of worshipping a deity that needed a mere mortal to defend it? |
alphafemale |
Apr-02-11 04:28 PM |
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That's not insane, it's cynical. |
JVS |
Apr-01-11 05:00 PM |
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We not only have the right but the *responsibility* to "judge" and condemn such behavior, as |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-02-11 03:10 PM |
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Yup. nt |
woo me with science |
Apr-01-11 03:49 PM |
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Yep |
Taverner |
Apr-01-11 03:50 PM |
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Slaughtering them for freedom and democracy or humanitarian reasons |
malaise |
Apr-01-11 03:50 PM |
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yes. a war is a different kind of slaughtering. |
cali |
Apr-01-11 03:52 PM |
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The important thing is that Americans feel free burning those books |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-01-11 03:57 PM |
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Well, actually, yeah. People should feel free to burn a book without being slaughtered. |
woo me with science |
Apr-01-11 04:31 PM |
#46 |
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I'm sure the UN personnel understood why they were sacrified. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-01-11 06:50 PM |
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You are decent |
woo me with science |
Apr-01-11 07:02 PM |
#112 |
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Yes, that is indeed the important thing. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Apr-02-11 07:42 AM |
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Well, if you think it's worth fighting for, join the military force and fight |
The Backlash Cometh |
Apr-02-11 09:42 AM |
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slaughtering people for any reason is insane. |
Bluerthanblue |
Apr-01-11 03:59 PM |
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Agreed. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-01-11 03:59 PM |
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Apr-01-11 04:04 PM |
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That's true; and it's insane. But burning the book is also insane. |
damntexdem |
Apr-01-11 04:06 PM |
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burning a book is not the moral fucking equivalent to slaughtering 12 innocent people |
cali |
Apr-01-11 04:15 PM |
#44 |
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Yes, OJ was wrong to kill his wife. But she should not have invited Ron Goldman over (nt) |
Nye Bevan |
Apr-01-11 04:39 PM |
#47 |
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Maybe is wasn't just the book burning |
atreides1 |
Apr-01-11 04:09 PM |
#42 |
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Certainly it wasn't just the book burning |
RZM |
Apr-01-11 04:11 PM |
#43 |
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Absolutely. Even if not verbalized |
cali |
Apr-01-11 04:17 PM |
#45 |
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This is the beauty of religion. (NT) |
Tesha |
Apr-01-11 04:49 PM |
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Burning a book knowing that it will incite violence - then calling it "positive" - is insane. |
baldguy |
Apr-01-11 04:58 PM |
#54 |
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a book is not a human being. One act is far more insane and |
cali |
Apr-01-11 05:01 PM |
#57 |
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Yep. He's nothing more than a hate filled attention whore |
Lorien |
Apr-02-11 02:52 AM |
#134 |
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Where is this benevolent god I'm always hearing so much about? |
madmom |
Apr-01-11 05:01 PM |
#58 |
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It is criminal, not insane unless you want to absolve them |
VioletLake |
Apr-01-11 05:21 PM |
#64 |
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it's insane. it's criminal of course, but it's insane. |
cali |
Apr-01-11 05:25 PM |
#66 |
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Why, specifically, because of the religious component? nt |
VioletLake |
Apr-01-11 05:28 PM |
#68 |
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yes, as the Magistrate put it upthread |
cali |
Apr-01-11 05:29 PM |
#70 |
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To be sure, what is the delusion in question? nt |
VioletLake |
Apr-01-11 05:37 PM |
#74 |
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why are you playing games? |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-01-11 05:40 PM |
#78 |
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My attempt to get more specific is not a game. |
VioletLake |
Apr-01-11 05:44 PM |
#82 |
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what's not specific about what cali said? |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-01-11 06:01 PM |
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uhh, I would definitely say no |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-01-11 06:47 PM |
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You are correct though. My duh. nt |
VioletLake |
Apr-01-11 06:15 PM |
#99 |
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read the Magistrate's post. He says it well. |
cali |
Apr-01-11 05:42 PM |
#80 |
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Blasphemy. Thanks. |
VioletLake |
Apr-01-11 06:02 PM |
#92 |
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Of course, people tend to kill others over delusions -- fanatical politics, religious views, race |
anneboleyn |
Apr-01-11 05:50 PM |
#86 |
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Good points. nt |
VioletLake |
Apr-01-11 06:17 PM |
#100 |
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murder is insanity on principle |
ReggieVeggie |
Apr-01-11 05:32 PM |
#71 |
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Our legal system doesn't define it that way. |
VioletLake |
Apr-01-11 05:39 PM |
#77 |
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Pretty much. |
Arkana |
Apr-01-11 05:33 PM |
#72 |
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you bet. I'll join that chorus. |
cali |
Apr-01-11 05:37 PM |
#75 |
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Terry Jones knew EXACTLY what would happen |
BobbyBoring |
Apr-01-11 05:44 PM |
#81 |
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uh, the fuckwads that did the slaughtering are more culpable |
cali |
Apr-01-11 05:47 PM |
#85 |
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That doesn't fucking exonerate Terry Jones. |
Arrowhead2k1 |
Apr-01-11 06:44 PM |
#108 |
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They're dragging us along with them |
maxsolomon |
Apr-01-11 06:41 PM |
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cali, sometimes "speech" is hate speech and actions are hate crimes. |
Skidmore |
Apr-01-11 06:38 PM |
#105 |
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I understand your concern and I sympathize but |
cali |
Apr-01-11 06:51 PM |
#111 |
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Thank you for articulating what many here seem unable to grasp. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 01:15 PM |
#162 |
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Religion leads to irrational behavior. nt |
Modern_Matthew |
Apr-01-11 06:43 PM |
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Apr-01-11 07:11 PM |
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So is burning the book |
quaker bill |
Apr-01-11 07:39 PM |
#115 |
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one can only be inflamed if they allow themselves to be inflamed. |
boston bean |
Apr-01-11 07:49 PM |
#116 |
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You would argue the act was sane and justified? |
quaker bill |
Apr-02-11 06:45 AM |
#143 |
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uh, do you consider burning a book the equivalent of slaughtering innocent people? |
cali |
Apr-01-11 09:26 PM |
#122 |
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There are degrees of insanity |
quaker bill |
Apr-02-11 06:41 AM |
#142 |
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Slaughtering people for ANY reason is disgusting, |
bvar22 |
Apr-01-11 08:49 PM |
#117 |
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+100. |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-01-11 08:55 PM |
#121 |
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it's a book. this has zip to do with western sensibilities. |
cali |
Apr-01-11 09:27 PM |
#123 |
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OMG who burned "Dianetics?" |
Keith Bee |
Apr-01-11 08:51 PM |
#118 |
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unrec for spreading the false meme that people were murdered because |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-01-11 11:52 PM |
#128 |
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Thank you. At least someone gets it. |
sabrina 1 |
Apr-02-11 01:32 AM |
#129 |
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every media outlet- and I mean every single one |
cali |
Apr-02-11 03:53 AM |
#136 |
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the media reported about the search for wmd, too. & the incubator babies |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-02-11 05:55 AM |
#137 |
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Then I'll rec it in your name |
Teaser |
Apr-02-11 07:08 AM |
#144 |
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The media does occasionally get things right though |
NuclearDem |
Apr-02-11 07:35 AM |
#147 |
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I'm sorry, that's just incorrect |
NuclearDem |
Apr-02-11 07:33 AM |
#146 |
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True, we should be blaming the whole social movement that gave rise to this violence. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Apr-02-11 07:47 AM |
#151 |
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Religion. |
PurityOfEssence |
Apr-02-11 01:36 AM |
#130 |
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more likely they saw photos of the 'Kill Team' |
OKDem08 |
Apr-02-11 02:14 AM |
#133 |
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Yet we have been killing innocent Afghans for the reason that we are going after the minority |
JCMach1 |
Apr-02-11 03:49 AM |
#135 |
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I would have to imagine it was more than just the book burning.. |
indimuse |
Apr-02-11 06:14 AM |
#138 |
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yes, it probably was, but that was the reason given by those involved |
cali |
Apr-02-11 06:25 AM |
#141 |
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Just as insane.. |
sendero |
Apr-02-11 07:20 AM |
#145 |
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are you actually comparing Muslims to poorly caged bears |
cali |
Apr-02-11 08:35 AM |
#152 |
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I'm making a metaphor.. |
sendero |
Apr-02-11 08:44 AM |
#153 |
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uh, yeah. I'm aware of the right wing crap about Islam |
cali |
Apr-02-11 08:48 AM |
#154 |
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Just like Israel and Palestine. |
sendero |
Apr-02-11 08:52 AM |
#156 |
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Recced. |
pecwae |
Apr-02-11 07:40 AM |
#149 |
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They hate us for our freedoms. Therefore we must give them up. |
alphafemale |
Apr-02-11 09:34 AM |
#157 |
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Well spoken. |
ohiosmith |
Apr-02-11 09:37 AM |
#158 |
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Hey that kinda rhymes! |
MellowDem |
Apr-02-11 06:34 PM |
#184 |
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Waving a red cape at an agitated bull is insane, too. |
gort |
Apr-02-11 10:29 AM |
#160 |
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Do you think the people who did this are comparable to animals? N.T. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Apr-02-11 05:31 PM |
#180 |
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It's called a metaphor |
gort |
Apr-02-11 06:18 PM |
#182 |
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It falls down in one of two ways; I wanted to know which. |
Donald Ian Rankin |
Apr-02-11 06:29 PM |
#183 |
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I am not calling anyone an animal. Animals don't act like humans. |
gort |
Apr-02-11 10:16 PM |
#197 |
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and deliberately provoking insane people from a safe distance |
northernlights |
Apr-02-11 01:21 PM |
#164 |
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hm |
datan |
Apr-02-11 02:08 PM |
#169 |
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absolutely. I don't deny for one moment that killing innocents over a book burning is an insane or.. |
northernlights |
Apr-02-11 04:05 PM |
#175 |
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In general there are no sane reasons to slaughter people. |
toddwv |
Apr-02-11 03:00 PM |
#170 |
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jones should then reap reward of his freedom and be shamed and scorned for life.... fine |
seabeyond |
Apr-02-11 03:04 PM |
#171 |
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jones is the uncredentialed pastor of a fraudulent church with 50 members |
Hannah Bell |
Apr-02-11 04:10 PM |
#176 |
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self delete... |
walldude |
Apr-02-11 04:11 PM |
#177 |
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What's going on in Germany? I must have missed that. |
apocalypsehow |
Apr-02-11 04:18 PM |
#178 |
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Burning the fucking book was insane to begin with. |
Initech |
Apr-02-11 07:09 PM |
#186 |
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"Humans once they form into a mob are mindless savage fuckwads". |
TK421 |
Apr-02-11 07:40 PM |
#187 |
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Mark Twain said it pretty well. |
zinnisking |
Apr-02-11 08:51 PM |
#194 |
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not familiar with that writing, but it is quite true |
TK421 |
Apr-02-11 09:07 PM |
#196 |
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But....But...But...But...But.. |
Warren DeMontague |
Apr-02-11 08:29 PM |
#190 |
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