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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-01-11 01:46 AM
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70. About the only thing Obama had to offer is that he wasn't a Clinton.
Then he joined up with them as a fellow neo-lib, third way, president.
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  -If Hillary Clinton had been President for the last two years Canuckistanian  Mar-31-11 08:11 PM   #0 
  - We'd have had the first woman President  GreenArrow   Mar-31-11 08:15 PM   #1 
  - I tend to agree  Canuckistanian   Mar-31-11 08:18 PM   #2 
  - It looks like the sauce reduced brings us to the same result.  xchrom   Mar-31-11 08:32 PM   #5 
  - She'd probably have made a show of opposing Republicans  leftstreet   Mar-31-11 09:24 PM   #28 
     - That'd be a first. She never did so when she was a Senator.  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 09:26 PM   #31 
        - Nonsense. She postured all the time. "Vast rightwing conspiracy!"  leftstreet   Mar-31-11 09:38 PM   #34 
           - When she was a Senator voting for a blank check for Bush?  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 09:44 PM   #36 
              - Did you have a point?  leftstreet   Mar-31-11 09:56 PM   #43 
                 - I disagree. I guess I saw too much of her as my BushCo suck-up Senator.  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 10:14 PM   #46 
                    - 135. Took Michelle on a date, 136. Got his kids a dog  leftstreet   Mar-31-11 10:25 PM   #48 
                       - There's a reason got a Pulitzer and you never will.  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 10:29 PM   #49 
                          - I'll never win a Nobel Peace Prize either. I'm antiwar  leftstreet   Mar-31-11 10:32 PM   #50 
                             - While Pres. Obama is just against "dumb wars". That's why he ended the Iraq war last year.  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 10:42 PM   #51 
                                - If you use a "smart bomb" in a "dumb war" does it end faster?  leftstreet   Mar-31-11 10:45 PM   #53 
                                - *groan*  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 11:21 PM   #57 
                                - EINO...  sendero   Apr-01-11 06:31 AM   #74 
  - I think we would at least be  pintobean   Mar-31-11 08:25 PM   #3 
  - You think so?  Canuckistanian   Mar-31-11 08:48 PM   #7 
  - I think things would be pretty much the same.  RevStPatrick   Mar-31-11 08:29 PM   #4 
  - There's a point  Canuckistanian   Mar-31-11 08:50 PM   #8 
  - Things would be much the same as now...  pipi_k   Mar-31-11 08:38 PM   #6 
  - You may be right  Canuckistanian   Mar-31-11 08:54 PM   #9 
     - Are you young?  Solomon   Apr-01-11 07:44 AM   #76 
     - Well, maybe I phrased it wrong  Canuckistanian   Apr-01-11 05:42 PM   #83 
     - Well that's the thing...  pipi_k   Apr-01-11 07:48 AM   #77 
  - She would have been SAVIGED, envicerated, SKINNED. n/t  UTUSN   Mar-31-11 08:57 PM   #10 
  - So DU would be no different than it is now?  Renew Deal   Mar-31-11 09:00 PM   #13 
  - ruled by PUMAS.  Historic NY   Mar-31-11 11:09 PM   #56 
     - Yeah, instead of ruled by cheerleaders.  Little Star   Apr-01-11 06:18 AM   #73 
  - Right  Canuckistanian   Mar-31-11 09:01 PM   #15 
  - If she had the house and senate like Obama did?  joshcryer   Mar-31-11 08:58 PM   #11 
  - That's the answer I was looking for  Canuckistanian   Mar-31-11 09:02 PM   #16 
     - There would at the bare minimum be a public option.  joshcryer   Mar-31-11 09:12 PM   #19 
        - How do you figure that, given the opposition to it by Joe Lieberman which killed PO?  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 09:24 PM   #29 
           - Obama had a choice, Public Option or Mandate (which he argued against initially).  joshcryer   Mar-31-11 09:29 PM   #32 
              - "Obama Puts Public Option and Single Payer Back On The Table" (2/28/11)  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 09:46 PM   #37 
                 - I'm well aware of that, but where does that put the public option and single payer?  joshcryer   Mar-31-11 09:52 PM   #40 
                    - That makes it a reality very soon, depending on the state.  ClarkUSA   Mar-31-11 10:07 PM   #45 
                       - Fair enough, I had ignored or forgotten about the state-based single payer option.  joshcryer   Apr-01-11 12:36 AM   #61 
  - Nothing would have been done on health care, DADT, DOMA, Labor, and for workers.  Renew Deal   Mar-31-11 08:59 PM   #12 
  - Cite?  joshcryer   Mar-31-11 09:13 PM   #20 
     - Here it is  Renew Deal   Mar-31-11 09:16 PM   #22 
        - Yes, that is why I supported her health care plan over Obama's.  joshcryer   Mar-31-11 09:25 PM   #30 
           - "Well, I want to have universal health care coverage by the end of my second term."  Renew Deal   Mar-31-11 09:38 PM   #35 
              - Yes, and my original post did not state that we'd have "universal health care."  joshcryer   Mar-31-11 09:53 PM   #41 
  - Barack Obama would be SOS and we'd have the same shit going on.  undeterred   Mar-31-11 09:00 PM   #14 
  - No, he wouldn't.  Beacool   Mar-31-11 09:23 PM   #27 
  - Oh, so the guy won, eh? In the booth, my hand hovered over the choices and just  blondeatlast   Mar-31-11 09:05 PM   #17 
  - No military intervention in Libya by a Nobel Peace Prize winning president...  catenary   Mar-31-11 09:11 PM   #18 
  - The only difference would the Nobel Peace Prize. There certainly would be intervention in Libya  MadBadger   Mar-31-11 10:43 PM   #52 
     - Yes, that was precisely my point. :-)  catenary   Apr-01-11 07:08 PM   #84 
  - Tea-Bagger Rallies, Sir, Would Feature So Much Dominatrix Porn A Generation Would Be Warped  The Magistrate   Mar-31-11 09:14 PM   #21 
  - That sir, deserves a Bazinga.  MilesColtrane   Apr-01-11 01:03 AM   #63 
  - Before I comment..  Shiver   Apr-01-11 01:16 AM   #66 
     - The Posters They Held Aloft, Sir: It Would Resemble A Convention Of Stanton Fans....  The Magistrate   Apr-01-11 01:34 AM   #69 
  - The word bipartisanship would be unknown. Hence, a lot of real change would have occurred.  rug   Mar-31-11 09:17 PM   #23 
  - A more aggressive  H2O Man   Mar-31-11 09:18 PM   #24 
  - It's impossible to know, but I do think  Liquorice   Mar-31-11 09:21 PM   #25 
  - I don't know about different.  Starry Messenger   Mar-31-11 09:23 PM   #26 
  - "What would be different?"  unkachuck   Mar-31-11 09:31 PM   #33 
  - No full frontal assault on teachers and even putridly less effort to regulate.  TheKentuckian   Mar-31-11 09:46 PM   #38 
  - I could not tell the difference between the two during the primary.  ZombieHorde   Mar-31-11 09:52 PM   #39 
  - Obama and Hillary's styles are quite different.  Beacool   Mar-31-11 09:53 PM   #42 
  - a fighter but for what  DonCoquixote   Apr-01-11 12:35 AM   #60 
  - We'd be at war with Iran as well.  harun   Mar-31-11 10:00 PM   #44 
  - You think Obama will resist taking us to Iran?  BlueIris   Mar-31-11 10:50 PM   #54 
     - Yah, it doesn't look good.  harun   Apr-01-11 07:39 AM   #75 
  - No Eric Holdingpattern  NBachers   Mar-31-11 10:21 PM   #47 
  - Does not matter  Angry Dragon   Mar-31-11 10:59 PM   #55 
  - This will pick at scabs  DonCoquixote   Apr-01-11 12:30 AM   #58 
  - Google "What Hillary Clinton doesn't want you to know" and learn a little...  Imagevision   Apr-01-11 12:32 AM   #59 
  - That is right-wing propaganda. Do you always believe right-wing smears on democrats,  Liquorice   Apr-01-11 01:28 AM   #68 
  - Please, take that crap to the Freepers' site.  Beacool   Apr-01-11 08:16 AM   #78 
     - Bea!! where have you been young lady? gallavanting all around NJ causing trouble?  dionysus   Apr-01-11 08:33 AM   #80 
        - Ohhhh, I love dogs!!!!  Beacool   Apr-01-11 02:16 PM   #82 
  - Clinton would never have been able to shepherd any kind of health care bill through Congress.  MilesColtrane   Apr-01-11 12:53 AM   #62 
  - Oh fer fuck sakes, give it a goddam rest.  madinmaryland   Apr-01-11 01:04 AM   #64 
  - A more hawkish foreign policy.  I Drink Water   Apr-01-11 01:07 AM   #65 
  - Ooooh, let's rehash these flamewars again.  Lucian   Apr-01-11 01:17 AM   #67 
  - About the only thing Obama had to offer is that he wasn't a Clinton.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Apr-01-11 01:46 AM   #70 
  - that's what I thought  hfojvt   Apr-01-11 02:10 AM   #71 
  - No. n/t  deacon   Apr-01-11 06:12 AM   #72 
  - yay! a primary rehash!!11!!  dionysus   Apr-01-11 08:25 AM   #79 
  - There would have been less "learning curve" the first year  OmahaBlueDog   Apr-01-11 09:05 AM   #81 

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