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Mon Dec-27-10 09:34 PM
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| 68. out of touch of what? Watching the brouhaha he could have |
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avoided wash up on his desk? out of touch? Who is? The guy who congratulates an animal abuser for his good fortune or the people who are disgusted by it?
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| -WH responds to furor from Obama's comments re: Vick |
hlthe2b |
Dec-27-10 06:29 PM |
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It was a totally avoidable dumb move. |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-27-10 06:32 PM |
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The same can be said for a lot of his appointments. |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-28-10 04:35 AM |
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LOL. You are correct. |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-28-10 11:28 AM |
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Exactly.... |
vi5 |
Dec-27-10 06:33 PM |
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Rec'd n/t |
Catherina |
Dec-27-10 06:34 PM |
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The fact that this is a "furor" is the reason that I don't post much at DU anymore. |
FrenchieCat |
Dec-27-10 06:35 PM |
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Hi Frenchie. |
Scurrilous |
Dec-27-10 06:37 PM |
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Fine... Most of us do not take animal cruelty so lightly, |
hlthe2b |
Dec-27-10 06:38 PM |
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Dec-27-10 06:41 PM |
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What is more cruel than eating animals? |
dkf |
Dec-27-10 06:49 PM |
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Sick. |
demmiblue |
Dec-27-10 06:52 PM |
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Killing them for sport - and not eating them. n/t |
cigsandcoffee |
Dec-27-10 06:52 PM |
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So you'd rather be eaten? Yikes. |
dkf |
Dec-27-10 06:53 PM |
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Once I'm dead, I don't give a shit what happens to my meat. Eat away, I won't be there. |
Withywindle |
Dec-27-10 11:55 PM |
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Good Gawd... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-27-10 06:52 PM |
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Dec-27-10 08:39 PM |
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Picking Them Up By Their Arms And Slamming Them To the Ground, Repeatedly, For Kicks |
NashVegas |
Dec-27-10 07:05 PM |
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+1 nt |
Critters2 |
Dec-27-10 07:44 PM |
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Dec-27-10 08:37 PM |
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Dec-28-10 12:02 AM |
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Check your research - Vick killed at least 7 of those animals. |
TBF |
Dec-28-10 09:35 AM |
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And I'm sure Obama is all in favor of it. I expect better from DU'ers like you. |
KittyWampus |
Dec-28-10 09:31 AM |
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Nice. KW... really nice |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 10:10 AM |
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Stupid Kick for Vick |
denem |
Dec-28-10 02:10 PM |
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Odd, I see you all the time. |
Union Scribe |
Dec-27-10 06:53 PM |
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I'm there with you, FC!! n/t |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Dec-27-10 07:06 PM |
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Newsflash: The "furor" isn't limited to DU. |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Dec-27-10 07:38 PM |
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because of course that's what Obama was supporting. |
Aramchek |
Dec-27-10 08:19 PM |
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I know this is difficult for some, but try to look at the big picture... |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Dec-27-10 08:49 PM |
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the big picture is Obama doesn't approve of what Vick did but thinks he deserves a second chance |
Aramchek |
Dec-28-10 12:23 AM |
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re: "who are you to pass judgement on his mercy?" |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 01:32 AM |
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Obama shows empathy. You show judgement. |
Aramchek |
Dec-28-10 11:17 AM |
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I do show good judgement, thank you. |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 11:43 AM |
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Dec-28-10 04:02 AM |
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Exactly. nt |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-10 02:27 AM |
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Dec-27-10 08:16 PM |
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glad you logged in to provide such insight |
frylock |
Dec-27-10 08:52 PM |
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What do you expect. Everything the WH does,they do with full consideration |
tekisui |
Dec-27-10 09:38 PM |
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No, no, no, they had no idea this would be reported. Blame it on Rahm like they used to! |
Major Hogwash |
Dec-27-10 09:43 PM |
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You think the 'furor' is limited to DU only? |
Zax2me |
Dec-27-10 11:38 PM |
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Bye. n/t |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-27-10 11:47 PM |
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Awwww. Poor widdle Fwenchie. |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-28-10 11:15 AM |
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How can we miss you if you don't say gone? |
Hassin Bin Sober |
Dec-28-10 12:55 PM |
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DId a simple search by author all forums for two weeks, got this -> |
Obamanaut |
Dec-28-10 02:59 PM |
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The bigger issue is |
Whoa_Nelly |
Dec-27-10 06:37 PM |
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Well put. |
emilyg |
Dec-27-10 06:40 PM |
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Sorry...I think the bigger issue is that Vick tortured animals, Period. |
whathehell |
Dec-27-10 06:43 PM |
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Yes, he did. |
Whoa_Nelly |
Dec-27-10 07:33 PM |
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Dear President Obama, |
Botany |
Dec-27-10 06:39 PM |
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Unfortunately, he proly has no clue. |
Amonester |
Dec-27-10 06:42 PM |
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Agreed...Maybe Obama should check in with the people who cared for the animals Vick tortured. n/t |
whathehell |
Dec-27-10 06:44 PM |
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+1 nt |
TBF |
Dec-27-10 06:46 PM |
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Nail meet hammer. nt |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-10 02:40 AM |
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+1 |
AndrewP |
Dec-28-10 12:55 PM |
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Well said, Botany. |
smokey nj |
Dec-27-10 07:08 PM |
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+1,000,000 nt |
northernlights |
Dec-27-10 07:21 PM |
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Maybe he's going to go the |
femrap |
Dec-27-10 08:02 PM |
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Good luck waiting for that apology. But thanks for mentioning Bo. |
BlueIris |
Dec-27-10 08:50 PM |
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I hope you have or will post that question on the White House site |
dflprincess |
Dec-27-10 09:31 PM |
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This ex-cheerleader sez--a little interest in public sentiment would have prevented this whole |
blondeatlast |
Dec-27-10 06:44 PM |
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Good point. n/t |
whathehell |
Dec-27-10 06:46 PM |
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I'm afraid our President is becoming as out-of-touch as... (a sizable part of DU)? |
Bodhi BloodWave |
Dec-27-10 07:29 PM |
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out of touch of what? Watching the brouhaha he could have |
roguevalley |
Dec-27-10 09:34 PM |
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Performance art. |
blondeatlast |
Dec-28-10 10:15 AM |
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Becoming? It's getting pretty obvious. |
Safetykitten |
Dec-27-10 08:04 PM |
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Yeah, being a football fan REALLY makes him out of touch with America. |
Arkana |
Dec-28-10 11:01 AM |
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WTF? Was he pandering to the dog-torturer voting bloc? |
Critters2 |
Dec-27-10 06:45 PM |
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This is a dumb ass thread about a dumb ass topic. Mr. Obama can be glad for Michael Vick. I'm glad |
ncteechur |
Dec-27-10 07:01 PM |
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Yet, you found it necessary to come and post.. |
hlthe2b |
Dec-27-10 07:03 PM |
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You "get over it".... |
whathehell |
Dec-27-10 09:30 PM |
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+1 |
Nedsdag |
Dec-27-10 09:58 PM |
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"there will always be those pathetic individuals who need |
hlthe2b |
Dec-27-10 10:11 PM |
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OMG, that poor dog. |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Dec-28-10 08:14 PM |
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K&R |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-28-10 11:23 AM |
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Wow. You're not worth another second of my time. Welcome to the Ignore list |
Lorien |
Dec-27-10 11:28 PM |
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how nice that that sadistic bastard has "moved on" . pity that his victims cannot do the same. |
niyad |
Dec-28-10 09:38 AM |
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I know this won't be popular to say, but I will anyway. |
Liberal Veteran |
Dec-27-10 07:17 PM |
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Nice post.... |
one_voice |
Dec-27-10 07:26 PM |
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+1,000,000 |
MiddleFingerMom |
Dec-27-10 09:16 PM |
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Yeah, I get the constitutional law thing, I really do. |
Withywindle |
Dec-28-10 12:01 AM |
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people revolted by Vick and Obama's statement are Baggers? Busheviks? |
MisterP |
Dec-28-10 12:28 AM |
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You really really really miss the point here... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 01:02 AM |
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could I ask |
Skittles |
Dec-28-10 12:00 AM |
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+1000000000 nt |
woo me with science |
Dec-28-10 04:08 AM |
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all nice sentiments, except for a couple of tiny little facts. vick has spent some time in prison, |
niyad |
Dec-28-10 06:21 PM |
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For a supposedly smart guy he does some really stupid things |
EndElectoral |
Dec-27-10 07:18 PM |
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honestly |
Skittles |
Dec-28-10 12:01 AM |
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Sad to see some of the 'Obama can do no wrong' people defending it. |
Dawgs |
Dec-27-10 07:26 PM |
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Hooray! He said something stupid! I cry with joy at his idiotic misteps! |
Safetykitten |
Dec-27-10 07:42 PM |
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They're no different than rabid Bush supporters. |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Dec-27-10 07:43 PM |
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there is no lowest of the low for them |
Skittles |
Dec-28-10 12:01 AM |
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Dec-27-10 08:34 PM |
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Look for dog activity/photo op this week. |
Safetykitten |
Dec-27-10 08:44 PM |
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Dec-27-10 08:45 PM |
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Maybe he was going for the Philly vote. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 08:45 PM |
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Obama continues in W's footsteps |
Hawkowl |
Dec-27-10 08:48 PM |
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The pres is entitled to his opinion and doesn't have to justify it to anyone. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-27-10 08:49 PM |
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It's the substance of his opinion that is making people upset. |
BlueIris |
Dec-27-10 08:52 PM |
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Here's the substance: Vick was prosecuted and served his sentence. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 01:30 AM |
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LOL...we'll see how well that plays out in November 2012. |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Dec-27-10 08:54 PM |
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Do you feel compelled to make veiled threats about your vote in 2012? |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 01:47 AM |
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List the vast number of posts in which I threaten, veiled or otherwise, |
WorseBeforeBetter |
Dec-28-10 09:14 AM |
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just as the people who believe that this was a bonehead move |
frylock |
Dec-27-10 08:56 PM |
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right on |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 01:54 AM |
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with millions of Americans unemployed, I think he DOES... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-27-10 08:58 PM |
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"he constantly comes to the defense of the rich" |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 01:42 AM |
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If you read my OP, you would have gotten that. |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 01:57 AM |
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Populist message? It was a sportsman's message from someone who digs football. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 02:00 AM |
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And, it was stupid, thoughtless, and tone deaf .... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 02:06 AM |
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Your hyperventilation on this is not persuasive. nt |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 02:10 AM |
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You are in the gross minority of viewpoints. (fortunately) |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 02:11 AM |
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Nor is your ridiculously hyperbolic description of the above post. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-10 09:32 AM |
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I'm not the one hyperventilating over this. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 12:27 PM |
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+100000000 |
woo me with science |
Dec-28-10 04:11 AM |
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For a President, it is never just a cigar. Whose words, in this world, carry more weight? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-10 09:31 AM |
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He believes in rehabilitation and there is nothing wrong with that concept. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 12:25 PM |
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So you're saying that the fucker Vick would go back to dog fighting if he |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-10 03:05 AM |
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WTF? Dog fighting is against the law, but you knew that. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 12:28 PM |
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You stated that "recidivism is directly commensurate with lack of opportunity. " |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-10 01:49 PM |
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We're all "entitled" to our own opinion..... |
whathehell |
Dec-27-10 09:22 PM |
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"appearing tone-deaf and clumsy" -- that |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 01:26 AM |
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Yes.... |
whathehell |
Dec-28-10 04:10 AM |
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true, so then those that find him stumbling into shit because of |
roguevalley |
Dec-27-10 09:35 PM |
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well there you go then |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 01:51 AM |
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No, but he might want to occasionally. |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-27-10 11:50 PM |
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Sorry, I have to respond again: this is probably the most hilarious comment I've ever seen here. |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-28-10 12:04 AM |
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As hilarious as Orly Taitz demanding Pres Obama answer her barking lunacy. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 01:57 AM |
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Orly Taitz is attempting to force something through a court of law. |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-28-10 09:24 AM |
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The president believes in rehabilitation as put forth by our legal system. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 12:24 PM |
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ZOMG I DON'T HAEV TO JUSTIFY MY OPINION TO YOU!!!11 |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-28-10 12:28 PM |
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Guess what? We are entitled to our opinions, also. And here they be. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-10 09:25 AM |
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Of course you are. The difference is I'm not telling you to STFU like you're telling the prez. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 12:18 PM |
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"You're doing a heckuvajob, Brownie." Riiiiiiiiiight... (Um, President Obama is supposed to be |
blondeatlast |
Dec-28-10 10:28 AM |
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You are conflating the rehabilitation with the crime. |
AtomicKitten |
Dec-28-10 12:57 PM |
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I applaud the Eagles owner and President Obama. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-27-10 08:53 PM |
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The Eagles owner sees the "humanity" of the God Almighty Dollar $$ |
hlthe2b |
Dec-27-10 08:56 PM |
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God I though I was kidding with the "Hooray for his stupid remarks". |
Safetykitten |
Dec-27-10 09:24 PM |
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Not the POINT. The President didn't single out Joe Parolee in the diner kitchen; he focused on A |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-10 09:28 AM |
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What redemption? Throwing a football after you brutally torture and kill multiple animals is not |
TBF |
Dec-28-10 09:37 AM |
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Sorry, but, in general, the presidents role in pro sports should be limited |
HEyHEY |
Dec-27-10 09:33 PM |
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Well, got the gay votes back, lost the dog owners. |
Safetykitten |
Dec-27-10 09:34 PM |
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It remains to be seen if any "gay votes" have been won back. |
BlueIris |
Dec-27-10 09:57 PM |
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I'm a dog owner, and I'm voting for the President AGAIN. |
CakeGrrl |
Dec-27-10 11:44 PM |
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well, we have |
Skittles |
Dec-28-10 12:02 AM |
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Touche. nt |
snagglepuss |
Dec-28-10 03:07 AM |
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Trust me, dear, it's already been reconciled once we take into account who is posting something like |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-28-10 12:03 AM |
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BS... no one here has even suggested not voting for Obama. |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 02:18 AM |
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'got the gay votes back' based on what? |
Bluebear |
Dec-28-10 03:51 AM |
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So when's Obama going to call the people at Best Friends to congratulate them? |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-27-10 11:49 PM |
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their identities were already well known |
Skittles |
Dec-28-10 12:03 AM |
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it's the same fucking people we see working their asses off every day to preserve the public image |
frylock |
Dec-28-10 12:35 AM |
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I'm guessing he'll call them |
Abq_Sarah |
Dec-28-10 12:42 AM |
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And they are not wealthy either - Frank Battista and Michael Mountain |
TBF |
Dec-28-10 09:32 AM |
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why is the President commenting on football players anyway? |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-28-10 12:25 AM |
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I don't know why any president would open their mouth on this |
HEyHEY |
Dec-28-10 01:31 AM |
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Evidentally it's important to him. His choice of what to comment on is telling. nt |
TBF |
Dec-28-10 09:30 AM |
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Obama should be commenting on the state of this country |
Raine |
Dec-28-10 02:17 AM |
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Exactly.... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 02:19 AM |
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But the "nexus" of the call was about renewable energy!!! |
Bluebear |
Dec-28-10 03:52 AM |
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Dec-28-10 09:24 AM |
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Who is saying that he doesn't have that right? |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-28-10 09:29 AM |
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Sure he does - but his choices of what to comment on speak volumes. nt |
TBF |
Dec-28-10 09:29 AM |
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Dec-28-10 09:31 AM |
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You think as well as you write. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-10 09:33 AM |
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Dec-28-10 09:35 AM |
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HAH! |
blondeatlast |
Dec-28-10 10:17 AM |
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Enjoy your stay. nt |
TBF |
Dec-28-10 09:33 AM |
#140 |
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Oh, please. Did you say this about Dubya, also? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-10 09:30 AM |
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Dec-28-10 09:33 AM |
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You didn't understand? I'm asking if you never once criticized Bush for any of his comments. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-28-10 09:35 AM |
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Dec-28-10 09:38 AM |
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I'm glad President Obama, for whom I campaigned, raised money for, and voted, has a right |
blondeatlast |
Dec-28-10 10:16 AM |
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Well, I'm sure you'll feel better once you comment on the prospects for the economy |
blondeatlast |
Dec-28-10 10:13 AM |
#149 |
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Oh, my....! |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 11:22 AM |
#164 |
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Politically, his statement re Vick was the smart move. |
TexasObserver |
Dec-28-10 10:24 AM |
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Dec-28-10 10:30 AM |
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Oh, good. |
Bluebear |
Dec-29-10 05:16 PM |
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He never should have had to "backtrack" in the first place. |
Arkana |
Dec-28-10 11:01 AM |
#156 |
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You have totally and completely missed the point.... |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 11:06 AM |
#158 |
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You could have just called me stupid--it would have gotten |
Arkana |
Dec-28-10 11:10 AM |
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I did not call you anything of the kind. But your response is flame baiting. |
hlthe2b |
Dec-28-10 11:11 AM |
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K&R X 100 |
COLGATE4 |
Dec-28-10 02:54 PM |
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Not to smart of the President. n/t |
Little Star |
Dec-28-10 11:13 AM |
#161 |
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I stand with PETA on this one. Vick is alright with me! |
cottonseed |
Dec-28-10 11:31 AM |
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I'm sorry |
AndrewP |
Dec-28-10 12:56 PM |
#177 |
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