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123. I sure do. (n/t)
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  -I don't want to live in an Atheist country. Lyric  Mar-29-11 10:15 PM   #0 
  - I do want to live in an atheist country  Juche   Mar-29-11 10:22 PM   #1 
  - See, it's the "forced" thing I don't like.  Lyric   Mar-29-11 10:33 PM   #5 
  - You mis-define "atheist," which is PRECISELY the kind of nation you want.  Lance_Boyle   Mar-30-11 06:30 AM   #62 
  - Not exactly.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 07:50 AM   #80 
  - 'Atheistic' and 'secular' are synonymous. n/t  Lance_Boyle   Mar-30-11 08:33 AM   #89 
     - No, they are not.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 08:37 AM   #90 
     - Nice argument there - care to support it?  Lance_Boyle   Mar-30-11 09:05 AM   #101 
     - Secular means non-religious  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 09:16 AM   #106 
     - In the context of a government, atheistic and secular are indeed synonymous.  Lance_Boyle   Mar-30-11 09:36 AM   #116 
        - Sorry, but I stand by my previous posts on the matter.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 09:42 AM   #120 
           - The dictionary disagrees with you --  defendandprotect   Mar-30-11 08:38 PM   #340 
     - Please look it up  polmaven   Mar-30-11 09:36 AM   #115 
        - You give the definition of positive atheism, not atheism.  Lance_Boyle   Mar-30-11 09:39 AM   #118 
        - I gave the DICTIONARY  polmaven   Mar-30-11 10:01 AM   #124 
           - Yes.  PassingFair   Mar-30-11 10:15 AM   #136 
           - Yes, they do not know what they are talking about.  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 10:57 AM   #163 
           - Wow, that's a distinction I never thought of  tavalon   Mar-30-11 05:04 PM   #306 
           - Same thing -- rejection of deities --  defendandprotect   Mar-30-11 08:40 PM   #341 
           - Ahem...  liberation   Mar-30-11 04:13 PM   #286 
        - Look up "theism" and put the letter "a", meaning "without" in front of it.  PassingFair   Mar-30-11 10:24 AM   #140 
           - Thank you.  Lance_Boyle   Mar-30-11 10:38 AM   #151 
           - So would you take the step of asserting secularism and atheism are synonymous?  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 10:44 AM   #153 
              - No.  PassingFair   Mar-30-11 10:59 AM   #165 
              - Really? Even though taxpayers are now subsidizing the Vatican's ....  defendandprotect   Mar-30-11 08:43 PM   #342 
              - I would come close.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:10 PM   #222 
                 - More than just "government"  PopeRatzo   Mar-30-11 04:51 PM   #300 
     - In the context of this conversation they most certainly are.  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 10:52 AM   #161 
        - No, not even in the context of this conversation.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 11:59 AM   #192 
     - You're wrong.  tabasco   Apr-01-11 03:40 PM   #454 
  - "Not concerned with gods or any silly notion thereof"  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-30-11 10:36 AM   #149 
  - Bullshit, that's a secular nation. The USSR was atheist.  AllTooEasy   Mar-30-11 08:27 PM   #336 
  - The USSR was Communist.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 08:52 PM   #344 
     - The USSR was TOTALITARIAN Communism ...  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 01:52 AM   #365 
  - flipped  PatrynXX   Mar-30-11 09:59 PM   #354 
     - Agnosticism has nothing to do with belief, and everything to do with knowledge.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 10:26 PM   #358 
  - Atheism isn't a "religious point of view" -- it's a non-religious point of view -- poof! No 'god" -  defendandprotect   Mar-30-11 08:26 PM   #335 
  - Given that most is non-fundie, why is "christianity" virtually the only religion slammed here?  whathehell   Mar-31-11 08:02 AM   #395 
     - You crack me up.  darkstar3   Mar-31-11 02:49 PM   #414 
  - You would be the normal Atheist  PatrynXX   Mar-30-11 09:55 PM   #353 
     - You have an incorrect/incomplete definition of atheism.  Lance_Boyle   Mar-31-11 07:05 AM   #394 
  - Religion has ALWAYS been about authoritarianism, aggression, superstition  Merlot   Mar-29-11 10:36 PM   #7 
  - +1  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 10:58 AM   #164 
  - and what an awful thing that is  hfojvt   Mar-30-11 01:04 PM   #214 
  - Wow...  liberation   Mar-30-11 04:34 PM   #294 
  - If I required a God to stand in as my father to make sure I didn't do those things,  tavalon   Mar-30-11 05:08 PM   #308 
  - Are you suggesting that without a "god" people would "steal, murder, commit adultery,  defendandprotect   Mar-30-11 08:28 PM   #337 
  - I don't agree  Juche   Mar-30-11 04:48 PM   #299 
  - Bullshit, you can't say that about Buddhism.  AllTooEasy   Mar-30-11 08:30 PM   #338 
  - ...which is why people are turning away from dogmatic religions - the constant capitulation  Hestia   Mar-30-11 08:37 PM   #339 
     - It is democracy which protects their right to do so -- in fact, the guarantee of the right  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:04 AM   #368 
        - Yes they did, Deists everyone and of all the foundations that the Founding Fathers  Hestia   Mar-31-11 10:19 AM   #401 
           - True -- and ....  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 10:54 PM   #435 
  - Sweden's being overrun with Fundies, too  lbrtbell   Mar-29-11 10:42 PM   #13 
  - Aren't they doing it the slow way, though? Disaster Capitalism is here now.  freshwest   Mar-29-11 11:07 PM   #24 
  - "I'm not sure when religion became associated with authoritarianism, aggression and superstition, "  eShirl   Mar-30-11 05:17 AM   #59 
  - Evidently, they didn't notice the Inquisition -- "Introducing the Cross with the Sword" ... !!  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:07 AM   #369 
  - We have a secular government.  AtheistCrusader   Mar-30-11 04:03 PM   #285 
  - That's not just something you felt, it's largely true.  Capitalocracy   Mar-30-11 04:53 PM   #302 
  - I simply want to live in a tolerant country.  tinrobot   Mar-30-11 07:18 PM   #330 
  - Great Rant, 100% True.  freshwest   Mar-29-11 10:23 PM   #2 
  - One thing left out. Don't give religion huge tax breaks. Why do atheists have to carry the cross?  L. Coyote   Mar-31-11 01:03 PM   #408 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-29-11 10:26 PM   #3 
  - Self deleted  demosincebirth   Mar-29-11 10:40 PM   #10 
     - Oh dear. Guess I missed that one.  Lyric   Mar-29-11 10:42 PM   #12 
        - Here's another thing you missed. Atheism IS the default position.  PassingFair   Mar-30-11 07:31 AM   #72 
           - Atheism is the default position because....  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 09:46 AM   #122 
           - And secularists would default to being atheists.  ozone_man   Mar-30-11 10:02 AM   #126 
           - You are confusing atheism with several other -isms.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 12:43 PM   #203 
           - Nah, just utilizing Baggini here.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 12:56 PM   #209 
           - Agree --  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:09 AM   #370 
           - USSR +gosateizm... Google it. n/t  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-30-11 03:10 PM   #262 
              - And?  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 03:14 PM   #265 
                 - I guess you didn't bother...  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-30-11 03:19 PM   #270 
                    - I guess you didn't bother to realize the difference between a policy and a government.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 03:29 PM   #273 
                       - "adopted the policy of state atheism in order to cement their power over the masses "  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-30-11 03:33 PM   #274 
                          - Semantics.  PassingFair   Mar-30-11 03:44 PM   #277 
                          - Not really.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 03:44 PM   #278 
  - I don't understand why atheists continue to rant and rave about something  demosincebirth   Mar-29-11 10:33 PM   #4 
  - personally I don't care what  Mz Pip   Mar-29-11 10:39 PM   #9 
  - Never heard of a public school teaching religiion, I know, I know, that you have, tell us  demosincebirth   Mar-29-11 10:49 PM   #15 
  - All public schools are required to release students for religious instruction.  immoderate   Mar-29-11 10:58 PM   #19 
  - You side-stepped my question.  demosincebirth   Mar-29-11 11:10 PM   #25 
  - I can't account for what you have heard.  immoderate   Mar-30-11 07:02 AM   #67 
     - I don't get into pissing contests with anybody. You must be a pol the way...  demosincebirth   Mar-30-11 10:02 AM   #125 
        - Well, you're wrong about that too.  immoderate   Mar-30-11 11:10 AM   #173 
  - I've never lived anywhere where kids were released for religious instruction.  Critters2   Mar-30-11 01:09 PM   #220 
     - Did they request it?  immoderate   Mar-30-11 10:26 PM   #357 
     - This came out of the McCollum decision? Interesting.  Critters2   Mar-31-11 01:00 PM   #407 
        - From the little I know, it seems right to me.  immoderate   Mar-31-11 09:17 PM   #429 
     - Used to happen -- and/or religious teachers were permitted to teach  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 01:57 AM   #367 
  - Isn't this what privatization is about? They'll end up in religious schools on the public dime.  freshwest   Mar-29-11 11:18 PM   #29 
  - They are pushing for Charter Schools...  and-justice-for-all   Mar-30-11 01:40 PM   #245 
  - I didn't say that  Mz Pip   Mar-29-11 11:35 PM   #32 
  - How about the schools now teaching Creationism,  csziggy   Mar-29-11 11:41 PM   #34 
  - In many very religious parts of the country, they pull stuff like this:  jeff47   Mar-30-11 08:05 AM   #83 
  - + 100 Brazillion!!!  kurtzapril4   Mar-30-11 12:12 PM   #195 
  - Well said. Hardly comprehensive, but well said.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 12:28 PM   #197 
  - Well, many elementary schools have "good news" clubs, sometimes headed up by a teacher.  krabigirl   Mar-30-11 10:08 AM   #132 
  - I beleive you , but I've never heard of them. Point is, they are not foreced to attend. nt.  demosincebirth   Mar-30-11 10:32 AM   #144 
     - In the rural areas of the bible-belt, Baccalaureate services are held in public schools.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 12:31 PM   #198 
        - Rural? Try suburban Atlanta 1986  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 03:09 PM   #261 
        - Not surpising in the least, but I was simply writing what I knew.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 03:10 PM   #263 
           - Oh I know. I wasn't criticizing you at all.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 05:02 PM   #304 
        - We have baccalaureate services here, but no one is  murielm99   Mar-31-11 03:22 AM   #391 
           - "You should speak up." Really?  darkstar3   Mar-31-11 02:58 PM   #415 
  - Dupe. Sorry.  kurtzapril4   Mar-30-11 12:06 PM   #194 
  - Here's some for ya....  kurtzapril4   Mar-30-11 12:37 PM   #200 
  - Evidently you don't know the history of Bibles being used in public schools to  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 01:55 AM   #366 
  - I agree 100%.  demosincebirth   Mar-29-11 11:12 PM   #26 
  - Right.  vim876   Mar-30-11 04:48 AM   #53 
  - One does not "teach" atheism  jeff47   Mar-30-11 08:46 AM   #94 
  - Not necessarily  tavalon   Mar-30-11 05:15 PM   #312 
  - You can teach critical thinking. Then hope for the best.  immoderate   Mar-30-11 10:28 PM   #359 
  - Hold up a sec. How does one "teach" atheism?  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 11:07 AM   #170 
     - Pretty much n/t  Mz Pip   Mar-30-11 11:29 AM   #180 
        - Ok, glad we agree on that part. Have you ever heard of a school where anyone was trying to teach  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 11:30 AM   #182 
           - Not a school  Mz Pip   Mar-30-11 11:38 AM   #183 
              - Were you equally noticing  Goblinmonger   Mar-30-11 01:13 PM   #223 
                 - Never said they couldn't  Mz Pip   Mar-30-11 01:35 PM   #242 
  - Well it depends on what the rant and rave is about.  Lyric   Mar-29-11 10:41 PM   #11 
  - If I don't like whats on tv, I just change the channel.  demosincebirth   Mar-29-11 10:53 PM   #18 
  - Life isn't a television show.  Lyric   Mar-29-11 11:12 PM   #27 
     - Well said.  freshwest   Mar-29-11 11:21 PM   #30 
     - Those are really tremendous problem for a person who probably gets  demosincebirth   Mar-30-11 10:23 AM   #139 
        - Yeah, 90% of them are run by religious organizations because they're the only ones that can get  JoeyT   Mar-30-11 10:38 AM   #152 
        - You really don't know what you are talking about. You just assume, with no facts. When you  demosincebirth   Mar-30-11 10:54 AM   #162 
           - Holy tap dancing Saint Josephine patron saint of projection!  liberation   Mar-30-11 04:52 PM   #301 
           - No, you got pissed off because I pointed out why almost all of them are run by religious orgs.  JoeyT   Mar-31-11 08:41 AM   #397 
        - So me and mine gotta lay down because you and yours run homeless shelters?  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 12:38 PM   #201 
        - In my area they are run by secularists. When I lived in a rural area, they were run by churches.  freshwest   Mar-30-11 03:11 PM   #264 
        - those really are tremendous problems  fishwax   Mar-31-11 09:21 PM   #430 
  - I'm sick of people trying to force others to buy their version of reality.  freshwest   Mar-29-11 11:03 PM   #22 
  - I don't try and make laws based on my atheism...  sfwriter   Mar-29-11 10:44 PM   #14 
  - Being bothered...  vim876   Mar-30-11 04:56 AM   #54 
  - No person who denies the being of a God shall hold any office  sfwriter   Mar-30-11 08:21 AM   #86 
  - The problem is, too many people don't feel the same as you.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 08:58 AM   #98 
     - They've had to try very hard -- it's difficult -- they've resorted to cults like Moonies ....  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:12 AM   #371 
     - I have met proselytizing atheists--people who try to talk me out of my faith,  Critters2   Apr-01-11 05:16 PM   #455 
  - They seem to be confusing you with a satanist.  tavalon   Mar-30-11 05:21 PM   #314 
  - There are some who want to turn the country over to God.  immoderate   Mar-29-11 10:52 PM   #16 
  - I'd rephrase that.  vim876   Mar-30-11 04:59 AM   #55 
     - I am not saying that.  immoderate   Mar-30-11 06:57 AM   #66 
        - I'm not saying God should be involved in running the country.  vim876   Mar-31-11 11:46 AM   #404 
           - Because you're too concerned about tone,  darkstar3   Mar-31-11 03:04 PM   #416 
  - Perhaps it's because...  theHandpuppet   Mar-29-11 11:00 PM   #20 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:18 AM   #372 
  - Because "the way they want"  LadyHawkAZ   Mar-29-11 11:37 PM   #33 
  - Hammer, meet nail. n/t  whathehell   Mar-29-11 11:57 PM   #39 
  - It's called the Bullying that comes with Insecurity...  whathehell   Mar-30-11 12:10 AM   #43 
  - Mighty broad brush you got there.  MindPilot   Mar-30-11 09:36 AM   #117 
  - No  whathehell   Mar-30-11 10:05 AM   #129 
     - Question for you.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 11:46 AM   #186 
     - Answer for you.  whathehell   Mar-30-11 12:42 PM   #202 
        - Have you considered expressing the opinion religion is stupid and founded upon...  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 12:52 PM   #207 
           - I think you're being willfully blind.  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-30-11 01:30 PM   #238 
           - Confirmation bias. Look it up.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:33 PM   #240 
           - HAHA - right back atcha, friend  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-30-11 01:37 PM   #243 
              - I have no need to look up something I am familiar with.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:41 PM   #246 
           - Again, I think it's a matter of intent and context.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 03:08 PM   #260 
           - Have You considered that expressing the opinion  whathehell   Mar-30-11 02:56 PM   #256 
              - Maybe it is because of the family in which I grew up.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 03:04 PM   #259 
     - #39 and #43 constitute your own version of bullying,  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 12:47 PM   #204 
  - Male-supremacist religion is a bigotry -- and a form of "bullying" --  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:22 AM   #373 
  - Yeah..no idea why us atheists are so uppity...  opiate69   Mar-30-11 12:13 AM   #46 
  - Something ilke that deserves its own thread.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 10:31 AM   #143 
  - Thanks, PacPat.. I've been debating whether or not to post it on it's own..  opiate69   Mar-31-11 07:33 PM   #424 
  - +1 --- k/r  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:28 AM   #374 
  - I care that god is written on the money  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 01:59 AM   #49 
  - TS  demosincebirth   Mar-30-11 10:43 PM   #360 
     - Really?  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 10:53 PM   #361 
        - I Read your post too fast. My apologies  demosincebirth   Apr-01-11 03:06 PM   #452 
  - Tell that to people who can't get married because it would "offend God."  eShirl   Mar-30-11 05:19 AM   #60 
  - Because you're misunderstanding the rant?  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 07:47 AM   #77 
  - The religious tend to project their dogmas into other people's  Bluenorthwest   Mar-30-11 08:00 AM   #82 
  - Please define "care" as in "should/should not care"...  Silent3   Mar-30-11 08:11 AM   #85 
  - Thank you.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 12:49 PM   #206 
  - Are you seriously asking that question?  MindPilot   Mar-30-11 08:54 AM   #97 
  - Well, this atheist doesn't rant and rave - most don't  Stuckinthebush   Mar-30-11 09:00 AM   #100 
  - + 10x9.9^25  MindPilot   Mar-30-11 09:14 AM   #105 
  - Indeed  Stuckinthebush   Mar-30-11 12:58 PM   #211 
  - +1000  JoeyT   Mar-30-11 10:45 AM   #156 
  - Yes, they will  Stuckinthebush   Mar-30-11 01:00 PM   #212 
  - Nicely said.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 11:43 AM   #184 
  - well said n/t  fishwax   Mar-31-11 09:25 PM   #431 
  - I don't understand why Christians rant and rave about something  Lucian   Mar-30-11 09:22 AM   #108 
  - I don't know, lol.  sudopod   Mar-30-11 10:03 AM   #127 
  - Easy there. Your're painting with a wide brush. I'm a frequent attendee at church  demosincebirth   Mar-30-11 10:45 AM   #155 
  - A wide brush, you say?  sudopod   Mar-30-11 10:49 AM   #160 
     - Atheist are of one belief .. Religious are many faiths and denominations  demosincebirth   Mar-30-11 07:31 PM   #331 
        - You don't think you're being a teensy, weensy bit hypocritical? nt  sudopod   Mar-31-11 01:31 AM   #363 
        - No -- it's all Male-Supremacist religion -- which is anti-democratic ...btw ...  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:31 AM   #375 
  - This religious person  polmaven   Mar-30-11 12:49 PM   #205 
     - Organized patriarchal religions have been pressured to change --  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:35 AM   #376 
        - Not all Christian  polmaven   Mar-31-11 10:55 AM   #403 
           - No one said "all" .... However, Methodists now worship a female god?  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 10:36 PM   #434 
              - Actually,  polmaven   Apr-01-11 07:01 AM   #439 
                 - Genderless? Have Methodists dumped the Bible?  defendandprotect   Apr-01-11 10:31 AM   #443 
                    - No, we have not "dumped" anything.  polmaven   Apr-01-11 11:01 AM   #447 
                       - Organized patriarchal religion is largely governed by the very violent male "god"  defendandprotect   Apr-01-11 11:29 AM   #448 
                          - I won't say that the word  polmaven   Apr-01-11 12:00 PM   #449 
                             - Until the Bible is changed to reflect that, others will continue to get a different message....  defendandprotect   Apr-01-11 12:22 PM   #450 
  - Um, because it's constantly rammed down our throats.  JoeyT   Mar-30-11 10:32 AM   #145 
  - You seem to be confused about what atheists object to.  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 11:05 AM   #169 
  - Well, add this to the list of things you don't understand then...  liberation   Mar-30-11 04:15 PM   #287 
  - Generalize much??  OwnedByFerrets   Mar-30-11 05:45 PM   #316 
  - Why should it bother them ?  AlbertCat   Mar-30-11 07:16 PM   #329 
  - Odd that it doesn't bother you that taxpayers are now financing "faith based" religious orgs ....  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 01:47 AM   #364 
  - Because Fundie Atheists are just as bad as Fundie Christians.  ScreamingMeemie   Apr-01-11 08:11 PM   #460 
     - Define what principles, precepts, holy texts, or dogmas  darkstar3   Apr-02-11 12:01 AM   #463 
        - Sorry, but the behavior is the same and I label it (and hopefully you  ScreamingMeemie   Apr-02-11 12:20 AM   #465 
           - Fundamentalism has little to with behavior and everything to do with observance.  darkstar3   Apr-02-11 12:30 AM   #466 
  - Yep...unfortunately, that's the way it seems to be now. Wasn't always  snappyturtle   Mar-29-11 10:34 PM   #6 
  - Exactly. All governments care about truth...  napoleon_in_rags   Mar-29-11 10:37 PM   #8 
  - Of course it wouldn't be an official national position  AmericaIsGreat   Mar-29-11 10:52 PM   #17 
  - Oh, I'd be fine with a country in which the majority of people CHOOSE to be atheist.  Lyric   Mar-29-11 11:26 PM   #31 
     - If 85% of the population were atheist...  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 08:41 AM   #92 
     - Atheism is *not* a religious philosophy,  Lance_Boyle   Mar-31-11 02:27 PM   #410 
  - "I want to live in a country where everybody can believe, speak, practice, and enjoy their own  Nye Bevan   Mar-29-11 11:02 PM   #21 
  - Never lived in a small bible belt town, have you.  Lars39   Mar-29-11 11:06 PM   #23 
  - No. I guess a lot of people in those towns choose to be Christian.  Nye Bevan   Mar-30-11 06:47 AM   #64 
     - The problem is they wish to deny us that choice.  jeff47   Mar-30-11 08:51 AM   #96 
  - If only there weren't so many powerful people trying to change that.  Lyric   Mar-29-11 11:14 PM   #28 
     - Changing the Constitution is very difficult (nt)  Nye Bevan   Mar-30-11 06:48 AM   #65 
        - Why change the law when they've been flaunting it since the '50s?  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:16 PM   #225 
  - Religion was intended to control people. A form of government.  LiberalFighter   Mar-29-11 11:48 PM   #35 
  - No, just the slaves needed a fairy tale.  L. Coyote   Mar-29-11 11:54 PM   #38 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-30-11 12:06 AM   #42 
  - Yes, I agree. Points can be made without patronizing insults.  anneboleyn   Mar-30-11 12:12 AM   #45 
  - Thank you very much.  whathehell   Mar-30-11 07:20 AM   #70 
  - I'll keep that in mind as I read your various flare-ups in the future.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 12:54 PM   #208 
  - Who is insulted? The origin of religion is remote, prehistoric even.  L. Coyote   Mar-30-11 09:14 AM   #104 
  - It's "insulting" that in a democracy we had Congress using the Bible to validate slavery--!!  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:43 AM   #378 
  - just proves atheists are not proselytizing  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 02:02 AM   #50 
  - Actually, you prove my point, not yours  whathehell   Mar-30-11 07:19 AM   #69 
     - You left out the word "verifiable".  PassingFair   Mar-30-11 09:27 AM   #112 
     - I don't want to live in a theist country  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 02:08 PM   #250 
        - Neither do I and I don't...  whathehell   Mar-30-11 03:18 PM   #268 
           - not very separated, really  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 04:03 PM   #284 
              - I think they should..  whathehell   Mar-30-11 06:23 PM   #325 
     - not at all  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 02:06 PM   #249 
        - Is that what you think?  whathehell   Mar-30-11 03:15 PM   #266 
           - The only really correct thing you said there was "IMO".  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 03:17 PM   #267 
           - I don't know what Ignored said  whathehell   Mar-30-11 03:21 PM   #272 
           - You didn't plan very well. It seems you haven't ignored me after all.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 03:34 PM   #275 
           - oh for pity's sake  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 04:16 PM   #288 
              - This is a non sequitor...I don't know where these "sky fairies" are coming from  whathehell   Mar-30-11 09:10 PM   #347 
                 - I wish you had a clue  ReggieVeggie   Apr-01-11 04:14 AM   #437 
                    - I wish you did.  whathehell   Apr-01-11 07:31 AM   #442 
                       - what a lame reply  ReggieVeggie   Apr-01-11 03:37 PM   #453 
                          - I avoided big words  whathehell   Apr-01-11 06:53 PM   #456 
  - The Bible has much to say about slavery, all favorable.  Bluenorthwest   Mar-30-11 08:32 AM   #88 
  - Guess what, Blue?  whathehell   Mar-30-11 10:12 AM   #135 
     - Male-Supremacist is the unpinning for America's religions ...you didn't know that?  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:45 AM   #380 
        - Um, yeah, I did and I don't think it's just "America's religions"  whathehell   Mar-31-11 05:48 PM   #423 
           - No one said it was . . . however, what of the issue of supporting male-supremacy?  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 10:22 PM   #433 
              - No one said it was?  whathehell   Apr-01-11 07:03 AM   #440 
                 - Because the OP addresses his "country" ... which I presume is America?  defendandprotect   Apr-01-11 10:38 AM   #444 
                    - Can you say  whathehell   Apr-01-11 07:00 PM   #458 
  - What do you think the origin of religion is? Did religion start before slavery?  L. Coyote   Mar-30-11 09:12 AM   #103 
  - Honey, you're so far off the mark  whathehell   Mar-30-11 10:26 AM   #141 
  - As an agnostic, of course I know the unknowable is unknown  L. Coyote   Mar-30-11 10:33 AM   #146 
  - You're an "agnostic" whenever the rigidity of your atheism becomes apparent and untenable  whathehell   Mar-30-11 10:48 AM   #159 
  - Scientists don't have bad grammar??!! LOL I know LOTS of scientists,  yawnmaster   Mar-30-11 11:57 AM   #191 
  - There's that manufactured, superior middle again.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 12:56 PM   #210 
  - Thanks for showing you don't know what the words mean  Goblinmonger   Mar-30-11 01:18 PM   #227 
  - Old religions were simply based on NATURE -- not "gods" -- and no "hell" --  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:47 AM   #382 
  - Cussing makes baby Jesus cry. FYI.  sudopod   Mar-30-11 10:05 AM   #130 
     - Sure...and somehow in your narrow frame of religious reference, you thought  whathehell   Mar-30-11 10:17 AM   #137 
     - OK, then if your god, godess, or elder thing doesn't mind  sudopod   Mar-30-11 10:21 AM   #138 
     - Ding, ding, ding. we have a winner!....That is precisely my point.  whathehell   Mar-30-11 10:35 AM   #148 
        - Agnostics and other "non-aligned" folks are not the people  sudopod   Mar-30-11 10:45 AM   #154 
           - It may seem a little pendantic to people who are too young to remember  whathehell   Mar-30-11 11:04 AM   #168 
              - Fair enough. :) nt  sudopod   Mar-30-11 03:19 PM   #271 
              - Notice no mention of Jews -- it was "us" and "them"? Catholics and Protestants?  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:53 AM   #383 
                 - Umm, no...actually I was thinking of including Jews,  whathehell   Mar-31-11 08:16 AM   #396 
                    - Anyone who supports democracy should see "negatives" in male-supremacist religion -- !!  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 10:01 PM   #432 
                       - Well, yeah, but  whathehell   Apr-01-11 07:18 AM   #441 
                          - If you're used to looking at issues from simply ....  defendandprotect   Apr-01-11 10:48 AM   #445 
                             - Honey, I'm used to "looking at issues" that are intelligently framed  whathehell   Apr-01-11 06:59 PM   #457 
     - Yours is good with cussin, right? ;) nt  sudopod   Mar-30-11 10:28 AM   #142 
        - I don't really "have" one, lol  whathehell   Mar-30-11 03:02 PM   #257 
     - ROFLMAO  L. Coyote   Mar-30-11 10:34 AM   #147 
  - And, recall the objections when they made good use of it to turn the tide on  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:38 AM   #377 
  - Meh.  vim876   Mar-30-11 05:04 AM   #56 
     - Wouldn't that be nice though...  sfwriter   Mar-30-11 08:31 AM   #87 
  - But they LOVE fetuses. n/t  AmBlue   Mar-29-11 11:50 PM   #36 
  - Hate women -- but love those fetuses -- !!  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:54 AM   #384 
  - I want to live in an agnostic nation.  Rex   Mar-29-11 11:51 PM   #37 
  - I don't care what religion or un-religion anyone practices  underseasurveyor   Mar-30-11 12:01 AM   #40 
  - Ding ding!  vim876   Mar-30-11 05:04 AM   #57 
  - Great rant, thanks for posting it!  Withywindle   Mar-30-11 12:02 AM   #41 
  - good for you, cuz you don't. in fact, you live in a ridiculously religious society.  inna   Mar-30-11 12:11 AM   #44 
  - Atheists are the most Christ-like IMHO. n/t  upi402   Mar-30-11 01:19 AM   #47 
  - Although I Find Some Atheist Are Quite Good With the Martyrd Acts  NashVegas   Mar-30-11 03:55 PM   #281 
  - Secular. It's called secular.  dorkulon   Mar-30-11 01:55 AM   #48 
  - Thank you! It's driving me insane.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 07:21 AM   #71 
  - K&R-  old mark   Mar-30-11 02:35 AM   #51 
  - Richard Dawkins for Global President!  LAGC   Mar-30-11 02:41 AM   #52 
  - Wait...  vim876   Mar-30-11 05:07 AM   #58 
  - What a horrific thought  CrawlingChaos   Mar-30-11 03:19 PM   #269 
  - Have you got some references to back up your assertions?  GoneOffShore   Mar-30-11 03:50 PM   #280 
     - a bit more info  CrawlingChaos   Mar-30-11 05:40 PM   #315 
        - I think you may be confusing Dawkins and Hitchens.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 06:13 PM   #323 
        - No, I don't think so  CrawlingChaos   Mar-30-11 07:06 PM   #328 
           - Perhaps if you actually read Hitchens rationale for supporting the Iraq War  GoneOffShore   Mar-31-11 02:49 PM   #413 
              - You can't be serious  CrawlingChaos   Mar-31-11 05:00 PM   #422 
                 - Somehow I think you haven't read either Hitchens or Dawkins.  GoneOffShore   Mar-31-11 08:58 PM   #425 
                 - ?  GoneOffShore   Mar-31-11 09:04 PM   #427 
                 - And with that post, you prove one of two things:  darkstar3   Mar-31-11 11:34 PM   #436 
                    - And with that post you prove  CrawlingChaos   Apr-01-11 05:32 AM   #438 
                       - Since you have only one fresh point, I will answer that.  darkstar3   Apr-01-11 01:21 PM   #451 
                          - I see you're getting crickets.  GoneOffShore   Apr-01-11 10:16 PM   #462 
        - As someone who agrees with the French ban on the burqa  GoneOffShore   Mar-30-11 06:38 PM   #326 
           - Seriously, you have no problem with Condell?  CrawlingChaos   Mar-30-11 08:15 PM   #333 
              - Ridicule is very effective - see Thomas Paine on John Adams  GoneOffShore   Mar-30-11 08:22 PM   #334 
                 - That is not analogous (n/t)  CrawlingChaos   Mar-30-11 08:45 PM   #343 
                    - Religionists of all stripes and beliefs have ridiculed atheists for centuries  GoneOffShore   Mar-30-11 10:15 PM   #355 
                       - So that makes it OK?  CrawlingChaos   Mar-30-11 11:37 PM   #362 
                          - I'm happy to respect people who accord me respect - however  GoneOffShore   Mar-31-11 12:54 PM   #406 
                             - calling all religious people "morons"  CrawlingChaos   Mar-31-11 04:35 PM   #420 
                                - Chris Hedges is right up there with Dawkins and HItchens.  GoneOffShore   Mar-31-11 09:00 PM   #426 
                                - Civility is overrated.  GoneOffShore   Mar-31-11 09:10 PM   #428 
  - +1000% -- k/r  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 02:55 AM   #385 
  - All I know is, I would much rather spend time with an atheist than a religious person.  mwb970   Mar-30-11 06:18 AM   #61 
  - Depends  cordelia   Mar-30-11 07:04 AM   #68 
  - I'm with you. I just want to be around nice people. Couldn't care less what they believe.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 08:39 AM   #91 
  - Really? I am agnostic myself but some of the people I most enjoy spending time with are religious.  Nye Bevan   Mar-30-11 09:28 AM   #113 
  - Same here.  krabigirl   Mar-30-11 10:09 AM   #134 
  - Separation of Church and States means Neutality, not Atheism.  no_hypocrisy   Mar-30-11 06:32 AM   #63 
  - Atheism is not antitheism  jeff47   Mar-30-11 07:38 AM   #73 
     - + 1000000  no_hypocrisy   Mar-30-11 07:47 AM   #76 
     - Unfortunately, the definition has now been hijacked by theists/believers  liberation   Mar-30-11 04:45 PM   #296 
  - I'd prefer agnostic - which does not take a firm position on any religion or existence of God. (nt)  ehrnst   Mar-30-11 07:39 AM   #74 
  - Sure it does.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 07:48 AM   #79 
  - Knowledge vs. belief.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:00 PM   #213 
  - You are conflating atheist and anti-theist  jeff47   Mar-30-11 07:41 AM   #75 
  - thank you  inna   Mar-30-11 07:52 AM   #81 
  - Stock around and see first hand heretic beheadings, burnings and stoning.  RegieRocker   Mar-30-11 07:47 AM   #78 
  - Correct.  JoePhilly   Mar-30-11 08:10 AM   #84 
  - wow, people sure hate atheists  stuntcat   Mar-30-11 08:43 AM   #93 
  - Routinely polled as the least trusted people in the U.S.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 08:59 AM   #99 
  - least trusted?  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 04:30 PM   #291 
  - Yep even here at the wildly progressive & tolerant DU  MindPilot   Mar-30-11 09:08 AM   #102 
  - Actually the worst insults in this thread are from atheists, directed at believers  Nye Bevan   Mar-30-11 11:00 AM   #166 
     - Actually, you mistake, as is frequently done, criticism of belief as criticism of a believer.  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 11:18 AM   #174 
     - well, if religious folks want to argue that 2+2=5 because their faith tells them to  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 04:32 PM   #293 
  - I wonder if it has anything to do with their words  Union Scribe   Mar-30-11 10:05 AM   #128 
  - Probably about as many times as atheists are told they're evil and sinful before deciding...  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 10:46 AM   #157 
     - +1  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 11:19 AM   #175 
     - And all that ill will is understandable  Union Scribe   Mar-30-11 12:36 PM   #199 
     - So ... You See a Lot of This On DU?  NashVegas   Mar-30-11 04:01 PM   #283 
        - I see it go both ways here, there and everywhere.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 05:04 PM   #307 
           - Could You Give Some Specific Examples, Please  NashVegas   Mar-30-11 09:08 PM   #346 
  - No. I Think Some of Us Are Fed Up With Some Atheists  NashVegas   Mar-30-11 03:59 PM   #282 
     - Yes, those who say "I know there is no god" are as terrible as those who say "I know there is a god"  PassingFair   Mar-30-11 04:27 PM   #290 
  - I think what you meant to say is you want to live in an agnostic country. You may find Europe more  Shagbark Hickory   Mar-30-11 08:50 AM   #95 
  - The UK is essentially a non-religious country now  Nye Bevan   Mar-30-11 09:23 AM   #109 
  - Agnosticism and atheism are compatible, and frequently overlap.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:04 PM   #215 
  - Secular nations are some of the best nations to live in.  Lucian   Mar-30-11 09:20 AM   #107 
  - Religion is belief and faith. It originates from ignorance, to explain the unknown and to  L. Coyote   Mar-30-11 09:25 AM   #110 
  - +1  Lucian   Mar-30-11 09:26 AM   #111 
  - Yeah. People like Obama, Biden, Kucinich and Ted Kennedy are delusional, irrational idiots! (nt)  Nye Bevan   Mar-30-11 09:31 AM   #114 
     - When they speak about myths and fairy tales as if they are real  MindPilot   Mar-30-11 09:40 AM   #119 
     - There's that famous atheist good will.  Union Scribe   Mar-30-11 10:07 AM   #131 
        - Are atheists famous for good will?  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 11:21 AM   #177 
        - After a lifetime of institutionalized discrimination, I ain't got much goodwill left.  MindPilot   Mar-31-11 09:06 AM   #399 
     - Or, they have to pander to the masses who are.  L. Coyote   Mar-30-11 10:37 AM   #150 
     - Got it. So Obama and Biden have pretended to be Christians their entire lives  Nye Bevan   Mar-30-11 10:46 AM   #158 
        - Actually, if you read some of Obama's older stuff  Goblinmonger   Mar-30-11 01:23 PM   #232 
     - Fallacy will get you nowhere.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:05 PM   #217 
        - Have you read the tax returns of the mega-churches?  L. Coyote   Mar-31-11 09:13 AM   #400 
  - I want a rational country. By definition this does not include tolerance for lies or insanity  Chris_Texas   Mar-30-11 09:46 AM   #121 
  - I sure do. (n/t)  Iggo   Mar-30-11 09:49 AM   #123 
  - I would like to live in a secular one. Sorry if it offends you.  krabigirl   Mar-30-11 10:09 AM   #133 
  - Anyone who feels an atheist country is the answer only  Cleita   Mar-30-11 11:01 AM   #167 
  - Or better yet - Albania under Enver Xoxa  Taverner   Mar-30-11 11:10 AM   #172 
  - Was that atheism or communism that was responsible for that?  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 11:22 AM   #178 
  - It was Marxism. Communism as a social and economic  Cleita   Mar-30-11 11:26 AM   #179 
     - Atheism is a religion? Really?  cleanhippie   Mar-30-11 11:29 AM   #181 
        - Your dogma is that you claim to have science behind  Cleita   Mar-30-11 11:43 AM   #185 
           - Here's something for you.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 12:00 PM   #193 
           - Not really. Calling me ignorant already tells me  Cleita   Mar-30-11 01:17 PM   #226 
              - I'm calling you ignorant because your own statements back that up.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 02:39 PM   #252 
           - How can something based on the rational and facts be a religion?  Lucian   Mar-30-11 01:06 PM   #218 
           - Because if you really examine the claims of atheists,  Cleita   Mar-30-11 01:15 PM   #224 
           - Sure, because requiring you to pony up the proof for your claims is irrational.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:20 PM   #228 
           - It's not a belief.  Lucian   Mar-30-11 01:22 PM   #230 
           - I would seriously be more than happy to lend you my copies of the recommended books.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 02:47 PM   #255 
           - I'm an atheist and I wouldn't go quite that far.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 02:44 PM   #254 
           - "They have meetings and clubs just like any religion to discuss their beliefs."  snooper2   Apr-01-11 10:55 AM   #446 
  - That wasn't atheism.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 11:48 AM   #188 
  - Philosophy is fine, but most atheists consider themselves  Cleita   Mar-30-11 11:50 AM   #189 
  - One, you clearly don't know many atheists.  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 11:54 AM   #190 
  - Actually, most atheists are very reflexive in their thoughts  Stuckinthebush   Mar-30-11 01:04 PM   #216 
  - Yes, they do and then they decide they are right and  Cleita   Mar-30-11 01:20 PM   #229 
     - There's a whole lot of paint in that post...  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:23 PM   #231 
     - I'm shocked it only took 229 posts to get to veg*nism  Goblinmonger   Mar-30-11 01:26 PM   #235 
     - Not true  Stuckinthebush   Mar-30-11 01:45 PM   #247 
     - Hmmm....  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 05:15 PM   #313 
  - Are there any -other- groups you're not a part of but for which you presume to speak?  catenary   Mar-30-11 04:31 PM   #292 
  - Ah, yes.  Union Scribe   Mar-30-11 01:24 PM   #233 
     - Feel free to prove that atheism was responsible for the atrocities mentioned there.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:30 PM   #237 
        - I don't think it was. Please see my edited post.  Union Scribe   Mar-30-11 01:32 PM   #239 
           - So what you're saying is, that dog won't hunt.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:35 PM   #241 
  - could you, uhhhh, show me anyone who said that?  ReggieVeggie   Mar-30-11 04:18 PM   #289 
  - Secular State - what I want too  Taverner   Mar-30-11 11:09 AM   #171 
  - Not even if it's dominated by radical Islamists?  KamaAina   Mar-30-11 11:20 AM   #176 
  - The genesis of religion is ignorance.  GeorgeGist   Mar-30-11 11:47 AM   #187 
  - So what you're saying is you want to live in an atheist country.  DireStrike   Mar-30-11 12:13 PM   #196 
  - +1  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 01:07 PM   #219 
  - Secular and atheist are not synonyms.  Lyric   Mar-30-11 03:03 PM   #258 
  - I've learned to tolerate all the imaginary constructs...  LanternWaste   Mar-30-11 01:10 PM   #221 
  - Not seeing it.  Union Scribe   Mar-30-11 01:27 PM   #236 
  - undisclosed  mainstreetonce   Mar-30-11 01:25 PM   #234 
  - There can never be a little religion....  and-justice-for-all   Mar-30-11 01:37 PM   #244 
  - I can only imagine that even in that hypothetical, religion-free Eden  LanternWaste   Mar-30-11 03:40 PM   #276 
     - For what it is worth... A religion-free "Eden" is a contradiction  liberation   Mar-30-11 05:51 PM   #317 
     - For what it's worth... it was a metaphor.  LanternWaste   Mar-30-11 06:04 PM   #319 
     - LOL...nt  and-justice-for-all   Mar-31-11 04:32 PM   #419 
     - A world free of religion is a better world...  and-justice-for-all   Mar-31-11 04:41 PM   #421 
  - I'll write the music to your "Lyric" about no "national" position on religion".  louslobbs   Mar-30-11 01:52 PM   #248 
  - Yuo, they are GANG OF PROJECTIONISTS (GOP)...THATS WHAT THEY DO  opihimoimoi   Mar-30-11 02:15 PM   #251 
  - I'd rather live in an atheist one than a wannabe theocratic one.  hobbit709   Mar-30-11 02:41 PM   #253 
  - You are right on!  Enthusiast   Mar-30-11 03:48 PM   #279 
  - Atheism isn't a religion. It's the absence of religion. I like that. nt  valerief   Mar-30-11 04:41 PM   #295 
  - I know I'm beating a dead horse, but...  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-30-11 05:12 PM   #311 
     - Why in the world would you continue to beat a horse you know is dead?  catenary   Mar-30-11 06:22 PM   #324 
     - Silly, it's because...  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-31-11 06:20 AM   #392 
     - Don't be dumb. Break down the word atheism. Amoral means no morals. Atheism means no theism.  valerief   Mar-31-11 03:45 PM   #417 
  - Your post defines true freedom of religion-  felix_numinous   Mar-30-11 04:46 PM   #297 
  - One of the problems is misclassification.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 04:54 PM   #303 
     - I know we are all on the 'same page'  felix_numinous   Mar-30-11 06:07 PM   #322 
  - right wing thugs and their hatred  SemperEadem   Mar-30-11 04:46 PM   #298 
  - Thanks for that - Excellent bit of ranting  GoneOffShore   Mar-31-11 02:44 PM   #411 
  - Amen from an atheist.  OwnedByFerrets   Mar-30-11 05:03 PM   #305 
  - I don't wanna be an American idiot.  Arkana   Mar-30-11 05:09 PM   #309 
  - Too late, lol  whathehell   Apr-01-11 08:05 PM   #459 
  - I want to live in a country that has no people stupid enough to think atheism is a  catenary   Mar-30-11 05:10 PM   #310 
  - there are too many who think atheism is a religion.  provis99   Mar-30-11 06:05 PM   #321 
  - Hey TeaParty - You can't love your country and hate half the people in it.  paparush   Mar-30-11 06:02 PM   #318 
  - Very well-articulated post.  Utopian Leftist   Mar-30-11 06:05 PM   #320 
  - because of the tradition of persecution that the early church suffered.  AlbertCat   Mar-30-11 06:51 PM   #327 
     - The Vatican was wiping out pagans and heritics -- followers of Jesus ...  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 03:05 AM   #386 
  - I see where you are coming from, but as a total non-believer  mochajava666   Mar-30-11 08:13 PM   #332 
  - denmark and lutherans  pansypoo53219   Mar-30-11 09:02 PM   #345 
  - Bush said so himself: as long as I get to be the dictator....  robinlynne   Mar-30-11 09:15 PM   #348 
  - Above all, let's remember that GOD chose to speak with W BUSH -- !!  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 03:08 AM   #387 
     - Yeh. God has been doing that through thousands of years...provoking wars....  robinlynne   Mar-31-11 10:36 AM   #402 
  - I really like and agree with what you wrote, Lyric. REC. nt  bertman   Mar-30-11 09:26 PM   #349 
  - agnostic would be fine for me  PatrynXX   Mar-30-11 09:42 PM   #350 
  - Agnosticism and atheism are compatible, and frequently overlap.  darkstar3   Mar-30-11 09:45 PM   #352 
  - atheism is not a religion  Runework   Mar-31-11 02:46 AM   #381 
  - Why would anyone want the Ten Commandments  Mariana   Mar-31-11 02:12 PM   #409 
  - Good post...  Corruption Winz   Mar-30-11 09:45 PM   #351 
  - What motivated this righteous rant?  SkyDaddy7   Mar-30-11 10:17 PM   #356 
  - I'd love to live in an atheist country  Runework   Mar-31-11 02:44 AM   #379 
     - Yes, I happen to agree!  SkyDaddy7   Mar-31-11 06:47 AM   #393 
     - +1  Lucian   Mar-31-11 11:54 AM   #405 
  - Let's aim for a nation which is humane -- for everyone -- near and far !!  defendandprotect   Mar-31-11 03:10 AM   #388 
  - "Atheist" = A-Theist = "No God". You do live in an Atheist country. We have no official God.  Warren DeMontague   Mar-31-11 03:14 AM   #389 
  - Help! Help! I Don't Want To Live in a GAY Country, Either!!! Help!  Warren DeMontague   Mar-31-11 03:15 AM   #390 
  - I don't want to live in an irrational country run by true believers of any ilk.  L. Coyote   Mar-31-11 08:59 AM   #398 
  - I wouldn't mind at all.  Dogtown   Mar-31-11 02:48 PM   #412 
  - I've been several things...  Just_visiting   Mar-31-11 03:53 PM   #418 
  - I want to live in an agnostic country.  roamer65   Apr-01-11 08:12 PM   #461 
     - Agnosticism is not a middle ground between atheism and theism.  darkstar3   Apr-02-11 12:04 AM   #464 
 

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