| 55. Because it benefits poor people. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-28-11 04:48 PM by baldguy
And - except for the top 10% - we're all poor people.
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| -How on earth does a system that you pay into with your own money become an 'entitlement'? |
truebrit71 |
Mar-28-11 03:03 PM |
#0 |
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Too much thinking |
Blue Owl |
Mar-28-11 03:07 PM |
#1 |
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Republicons don't think like people. They think like tax-dodging billionaires |
SpiralHawk |
Mar-28-11 03:09 PM |
#6 |
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Republicans are now Libertarians! n/t |
sasquuatch55 |
Mar-29-11 01:08 PM |
#167 |
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And sadly, most of our DLC elected officials |
truedelphi |
Mar-29-11 02:48 PM |
#178 |
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That 'thinking' will turn you into a pinko commie, too! |
HCE SuiGeneris |
Mar-28-11 11:06 PM |
#89 |
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To think is pink. |
Citizen Worker |
Mar-29-11 12:36 AM |
#93 |
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"Framing" is everything. "Earned Benefits" is better term for Social Security, etc. |
SharonAnn |
Mar-29-11 12:17 PM |
#156 |
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I wish our Democratic Party Leadership would STOP using the Republican framing. |
bvar22 |
Mar-29-11 01:27 PM |
#171 |
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Democratic leadership or DLC is funded by the Koch brothers; |
ooglymoogly |
Mar-29-11 06:01 PM |
#183 |
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I paid for my life insurance policy. |
fasttense |
Mar-28-11 03:07 PM |
#2 |
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Congress has robbed Social security. |
lob1 |
Mar-28-11 03:08 PM |
#3 |
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Over simplistic |
BobbyBoring |
Mar-29-11 11:54 AM |
#153 |
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That is UNTRUE...and MORE Republican talking points. |
bvar22 |
Mar-29-11 01:35 PM |
#174 |
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I think the "problem" is that we all contribute, and share it. |
phantom power |
Mar-28-11 03:09 PM |
#4 |
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Conservatives don't want to pay back the iou's they wrote after raiding it |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-28-11 03:10 PM |
#9 |
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I thought that conservatives are all about "responsibility" |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Mar-28-11 03:12 PM |
#13 |
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To paraphrase Leona Helmsley: Responsibility is for the little people... |
rfranklin |
Mar-28-11 03:15 PM |
#16 |
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How true |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Mar-28-11 04:59 PM |
#58 |
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Responsibility???!!! |
oneAngryOhioDem |
Mar-29-11 06:23 AM |
#117 |
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Except for the minor fact that Democrats were running Congress for |
Common Sense Party |
Mar-28-11 03:29 PM |
#23 |
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Really? RepubliCONS ran the congress from 2000 to 2006. |
fasttense |
Mar-28-11 03:53 PM |
#38 |
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That was my point, neither party is blameless. |
Common Sense Party |
Mar-28-11 04:46 PM |
#54 |
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Thanks. Good chart. |
emilyg |
Mar-29-11 12:29 AM |
#91 |
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Thanks |
guardian |
Mar-29-11 09:45 AM |
#144 |
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Most of it went to partially |
Enthusiast |
Mar-28-11 03:59 PM |
#44 |
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So did T-bills! Are you suggesting we shouldn't pay those as well? |
on point |
Mar-29-11 07:00 AM |
#123 |
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You lost me there. I have no idea what you're on about. n/t |
Common Sense Party |
Mar-29-11 08:35 AM |
#137 |
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The SSI IOU's need to be paid, same as T-Bill IOU's. Cut SSI only if willing to stop paying T-Bills |
on point |
Mar-29-11 10:09 AM |
#147 |
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Democrats, for the last 40 yrs have not run congress or the Senate. |
ooglymoogly |
Mar-29-11 01:33 PM |
#173 |
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Democrats are Democrats. |
Common Sense Party |
Mar-29-11 02:55 PM |
#180 |
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Only a homogenized mind could make such a statement. |
ooglymoogly |
Mar-29-11 04:03 PM |
#181 |
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And Republicans are Republicans. |
Common Sense Party |
Mar-29-11 05:57 PM |
#182 |
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And that is just what you are programmed to believe. nt |
ooglymoogly |
Mar-29-11 06:03 PM |
#184 |
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They don't want to share, regardless of color. n/t |
Scuba |
Mar-28-11 03:55 PM |
#39 |
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They only agreed to a common cause when it advantaged them. |
freshwest |
Mar-29-11 11:39 AM |
#151 |
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It's NATIONAL INSURANCE!!!! |
mwooldri |
Mar-29-11 12:41 PM |
#160 |
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poor people in general will share it. |
obxhead |
Mar-29-11 01:24 PM |
#170 |
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the congress.org page on facebook is being written by RW nutbags now |
Donnachaidh |
Mar-28-11 03:09 PM |
#5 |
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republican semantics. |
hobbit709 |
Mar-28-11 03:09 PM |
#7 |
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because you are entitled to the money you paid in. |
spanone |
Mar-28-11 03:10 PM |
#8 |
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+100 |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-28-11 07:27 PM |
#75 |
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how bout this, i paid into it, i'm entitled to get it back? |
dionysus |
Mar-28-11 03:10 PM |
#10 |
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It goes beyond that. Minor children of American who perish are .... |
Scuba |
Mar-28-11 03:57 PM |
#41 |
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delete |
Coyote_Bandit |
Mar-28-11 04:33 PM |
#49 |
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i am aware it's also an insurance program for the children of deceased parents. i never said we |
dionysus |
Mar-28-11 06:29 PM |
#67 |
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So, if the cap on SS contributions is removed, and the rich wind up |
Common Sense Party |
Mar-28-11 04:48 PM |
#56 |
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no. i'm just saying there's nothing wrong with the word entitlement, except the way the RW uses it. |
dionysus |
Mar-28-11 06:19 PM |
#66 |
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Socialist... |
LooseWilly |
Mar-29-11 01:56 AM |
#101 |
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Well, the GOP never stops trying anyway |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Mar-28-11 03:11 PM |
#11 |
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Teacher and Public Employees.... |
AnneD |
Mar-28-11 03:12 PM |
#12 |
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I'm a retired public employee |
footinmouth |
Mar-28-11 03:16 PM |
#17 |
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Windfall Elimination Act... |
AnneD |
Mar-28-11 03:33 PM |
#30 |
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I guess it does vary from state to state, district to district |
footinmouth |
Mar-28-11 10:05 PM |
#82 |
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Many teachers don't contribute to Social Security |
hack89 |
Mar-28-11 03:37 PM |
#34 |
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That varies from state to state. |
marew |
Mar-28-11 06:41 PM |
#71 |
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Me, too here in CA |
Iwillnevergiveup |
Mar-29-11 01:48 AM |
#99 |
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That's your state. In PA we teachers pay into both, and get both. |
WinkyDink |
Mar-29-11 07:14 AM |
#127 |
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Well, we do at present. |
mlevans |
Mar-29-11 01:02 PM |
#163 |
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Entitlement is a legal term which means a guarantee of access to benefits |
hack89 |
Mar-28-11 03:12 PM |
#14 |
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Exactly. Thank you for stating what should be obvious. n/t |
Common Sense Party |
Mar-28-11 03:30 PM |
#24 |
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Thank you. |
emilyg |
Mar-29-11 12:31 AM |
#92 |
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It's become a pejorative for people who think they are owed something without offering anything |
tcaudilllg |
Mar-29-11 06:05 AM |
#113 |
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You miss one essential characteristic. |
TahitiNut |
Mar-29-11 09:00 AM |
#138 |
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This post of yours is one brilliant essay. |
truedelphi |
Mar-30-11 01:15 AM |
#187 |
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Thank you. It's something I've thought about a lot ... and researched. |
TahitiNut |
Mar-30-11 08:29 AM |
#189 |
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In the Republican language words have whatever meaning best suits the wealthy. |
drm604 |
Mar-28-11 03:15 PM |
#15 |
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Well said.....nt |
Enthusiast |
Mar-28-11 04:03 PM |
#46 |
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you forgot one for muslims - "athiests" |
tonybgood |
Mar-29-11 01:00 PM |
#162 |
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Entitlement means something is owed or belongs to you. It's a fine word. |
pnwmom |
Mar-28-11 03:18 PM |
#18 |
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..in the frame of reference being used by the gop it means "getting something for nothing".. |
truebrit71 |
Mar-28-11 03:23 PM |
#20 |
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But that's referring to a false sense of entitlement, |
pnwmom |
Mar-28-11 04:42 PM |
#53 |
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..which is precisely why the gop uses that word... |
truebrit71 |
Mar-29-11 09:05 AM |
#140 |
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This is actually an excellent point. Due to complicity with media mouthpieces, the GOP has successf |
closeupready |
Mar-28-11 03:30 PM |
#25 |
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Same way that 'liberal' |
Enthusiast |
Mar-28-11 04:04 PM |
#47 |
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See my response above. |
TahitiNut |
Mar-29-11 09:05 AM |
#139 |
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GOP sees entitlement and thinks privilege(d). |
BadgerKid |
Mar-28-11 03:22 PM |
#19 |
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Not just social security, but unemployment insurance. |
closeupready |
Mar-28-11 03:23 PM |
#21 |
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Because the government feels entitled to the surplus. |
eShirl |
Mar-28-11 03:24 PM |
#22 |
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When the Koch Bros & the BFEE tell you so. |
Skidmore |
Mar-28-11 03:31 PM |
#26 |
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Yeah. You're entitled to your money. |
Octafish |
Mar-28-11 03:32 PM |
#27 |
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Wow, isn't that the truth......they just do not admit your right to |
Trailrider1951 |
Mar-28-11 07:55 PM |
#78 |
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We need to start taking away "entitlements" from legislators. We need a big push |
loudsue |
Mar-28-11 03:33 PM |
#28 |
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2 words - TERM LIMITS!!! |
tonybgood |
Mar-29-11 01:02 PM |
#164 |
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You seem to be confused about the meaning of "entitlement" |
iamtechus |
Mar-28-11 03:33 PM |
#29 |
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You seem to be confused about how the gop is using that word.. |
truebrit71 |
Mar-28-11 03:40 PM |
#35 |
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Thieves say things like that. And it is still the third rail. |
aquart |
Mar-28-11 03:35 PM |
#31 |
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The Right (and the Third Wayers) have demonized the word "entitlement" |
MannyGoldstein |
Mar-28-11 03:36 PM |
#32 |
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Bingo! Just like "liberal" is used as a put-down.. |
truebrit71 |
Mar-28-11 03:41 PM |
#36 |
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Your question answers itself. nt |
Lex |
Mar-28-11 03:36 PM |
#33 |
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The real problem is lumping all "entitlements" together so as to attack Social Security. |
Jim Lane |
Mar-28-11 03:43 PM |
#37 |
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Meanwhile we borrow money to wage war. n/t |
Scuba |
Mar-28-11 04:00 PM |
#45 |
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Because if the Rethugs can significant cut or much better still, eliminate SS/SSD/SSDI |
Urban Prairie |
Mar-28-11 03:57 PM |
#40 |
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They have stolen and twisted the word "entitlement" |
annabanana |
Mar-28-11 03:58 PM |
#42 |
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And where are the ultra right conservatives to champion contract law? |
2gabby |
Mar-28-11 03:59 PM |
#43 |
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The conservative logic goes like this: |
Atypical Liberal |
Mar-28-11 04:22 PM |
#48 |
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some charts showing lifetime benefits and taxes for SS & Medicare (hint-Medicare is toast) |
stockholmer |
Mar-29-11 03:22 AM |
#106 |
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Great info |
Atypical Liberal |
Mar-29-11 06:43 AM |
#119 |
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I hate that word. |
geardaddy |
Mar-28-11 04:35 PM |
#50 |
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What you don't think that after paying in for so long you are not entitled? |
Bandit |
Mar-28-11 04:40 PM |
#51 |
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Better question: When did "entitlement" become a dirty word? |
PeaceNikki |
Mar-28-11 04:42 PM |
#52 |
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Because it benefits poor people. |
baldguy |
Mar-28-11 04:48 PM |
#55 |
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What ROYALLY PISSES ME OFF is that DEMOCRATS are using that |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-28-11 04:50 PM |
#57 |
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Are they really "Democrats" if they are helping drive the GOP agenda forward? |
Lorien |
Mar-28-11 05:40 PM |
#62 |
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Fo realz. PURGE 2012!!! |
tcaudilllg |
Mar-29-11 06:05 AM |
#114 |
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"An entitlement is a guarantee of access to benefits based on established rights or by legislation." |
dionysus |
Mar-28-11 06:38 PM |
#70 |
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And Medicare is an insurance policy we are forced to pay into... |
JuniperLea |
Mar-28-11 05:03 PM |
#59 |
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You're entitled by virtue of the fact that you paid into it! |
frebrd |
Mar-28-11 05:31 PM |
#60 |
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It's not. It's a Social Program. Reagan branded them "entitlements" |
Lorien |
Mar-28-11 05:39 PM |
#61 |
| -
Reagan also never balanced a budget! |
tonybgood |
Mar-29-11 01:07 PM |
#166 |
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"entitlement" is not a pejorative. |
MilesColtrane |
Mar-28-11 06:01 PM |
#63 |
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Because the rich bastards don't have it? |
Initech |
Mar-28-11 06:04 PM |
#64 |
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In 20 years the rich will claim you're 401k is an entitlement. |
sarcasmo |
Mar-28-11 06:07 PM |
#65 |
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Ya that was my first thought when I heard the pundits drivel and drooling |
Rex |
Mar-28-11 06:30 PM |
#68 |
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do you know the meaning of the word? |
dionysus |
Mar-28-11 06:31 PM |
#69 |
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When your average middle of the road independent American |
hulka38 |
Mar-28-11 07:44 PM |
#76 |
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i'd rather we not let them do to the word "entitlement" what they did to "liberal". |
dionysus |
Mar-28-11 07:54 PM |
#77 |
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The GOP has been largely successful in redefining the word |
hulka38 |
Mar-28-11 09:44 PM |
#79 |
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That's one meaning, and here's the way some in government use it |
Exilednight |
Mar-28-11 09:48 PM |
#80 |
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I don't know. |
hulka38 |
Mar-28-11 06:49 PM |
#72 |
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EASY... it's Called Fascist Propaganda via FOX News, Rush Limpballs, etc. |
fascisthunter |
Mar-28-11 06:51 PM |
#73 |
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Because the republicans want to steal it |
Avant Guardian |
Mar-28-11 06:54 PM |
#74 |
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Reminds Me of an Older Guy Who Used to Hang Around the Diner |
On the Road |
Mar-28-11 09:54 PM |
#81 |
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Your money was given to retirees, not invested. |
dkf |
Mar-28-11 10:10 PM |
#83 |
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the problem is |
rdking647 |
Mar-28-11 10:11 PM |
#84 |
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Retirement at 70? Okay. What line of work are you in, btw? |
Mnemosyne |
Mar-29-11 12:44 AM |
#96 |
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why does it matter? |
rdking647 |
Mar-29-11 05:00 AM |
#109 |
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I hope you're a bricklayer or a carpet installer. |
bluethruandthru |
Mar-29-11 06:43 AM |
#120 |
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even if your a brick layer |
rdking647 |
Mar-29-11 10:47 AM |
#149 |
| -
There is no "solution" needed for Social Security! |
bluethruandthru |
Mar-29-11 12:39 PM |
#159 |
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Raising taxes so that appropriate amounts were paid, as they were forty years ago, would fix SS |
anneboleyn |
Mar-30-11 01:56 AM |
#188 |
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because there is a huge difference between sitting at a desk until 70, and |
Mnemosyne |
Mar-29-11 06:45 AM |
#121 |
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except it doesn't need fixing, it just needs it;s loans repaid |
bettyellen |
Mar-29-11 07:24 AM |
#128 |
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Hmmm... cause you're entitled to it? |
Kip Humphrey |
Mar-28-11 10:39 PM |
#85 |
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Boy, isn't THAT the damned truth? |
MrMickeysMom |
Mar-28-11 10:44 PM |
#86 |
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probably because the amount most people pay into it |
fried eggs |
Mar-28-11 10:51 PM |
#87 |
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I worked for the Social Security Administration whole working life |
Silver Swan |
Mar-28-11 10:57 PM |
#88 |
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Frank Luntz and GOP can turn any word into a DIRTY word -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-29-11 01:35 PM |
#175 |
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If they are so dead set on eliminating this "entitlement"... |
Frisbee |
Mar-29-11 12:26 AM |
#90 |
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When Frank Luntz -- GOP propagandist works on it -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-29-11 12:40 AM |
#94 |
| -
global warming makes you think the earth is getting warmer. in fact |
ejpoeta |
Mar-29-11 05:46 AM |
#110 |
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That's the confusion Rush Limbaugh sells ... but false -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-29-11 01:33 PM |
#172 |
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thanks. i agree that it IS a warming, but there is also climate change |
ejpoeta |
Mar-29-11 06:14 PM |
#185 |
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Climate change is a euphemism intended to make the public think that |
defendandprotect |
Mar-29-11 10:36 PM |
#186 |
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Social Security is a program created by the passage of the FEDERAL INSURANCE CONTRIBUTION ACT. It |
Citizen Worker |
Mar-29-11 12:44 AM |
#95 |
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Because they are aware that the word is most commonly used |
Norrin Radd |
Mar-29-11 01:00 AM |
#97 |
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K & FUCKING R!!! |
Keith Bee |
Mar-29-11 01:38 AM |
#98 |
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Simple. You earned it, thus you are fully entitled to it. |
pnwmom |
Mar-29-11 01:53 AM |
#100 |
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SS Welfare? |
Crusader Rabbit |
Mar-29-11 01:56 AM |
#102 |
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So true. It's a buzzword so firmly entrenched into the lexicon of apathetic dolts |
Populist_Prole |
Mar-29-11 02:06 AM |
#103 |
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Because it is yours, you are 'entitled' to it? n/t |
Obamanaut |
Mar-29-11 02:39 AM |
#104 |
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When the GOP lies about it....nt |
old mark |
Mar-29-11 02:44 AM |
#105 |
| -
Precisely |
Sherman A1 |
Mar-29-11 04:36 AM |
#107 |
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Because it's our money. |
JoeyT |
Mar-29-11 04:55 AM |
#108 |
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entitlement: a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract |
freedom fighter jh |
Mar-29-11 05:53 AM |
#111 |
| -
How does it become a "sacred cow"? |
tcaudilllg |
Mar-29-11 06:02 AM |
#112 |
| -
Whom are you quoting? |
WinkyDink |
Mar-29-11 07:25 AM |
#130 |
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Cutting entitlements is equivelant to a retroactive tax increase. |
rucky |
Mar-29-11 06:08 AM |
#115 |
| -
I agree |
Mudoria |
Mar-29-11 06:22 AM |
#116 |
| -
Because you ARE entitled to it...it's yours! |
indimuse |
Mar-29-11 06:40 AM |
#118 |
| -
Because social security couldn't be cut. |
ctsnowman |
Mar-29-11 06:52 AM |
#122 |
| -
foot in mouth |
dothemath |
Mar-29-11 07:11 AM |
#124 |
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But it IS an entitlement! The PROBLEM, THE EVIL, is that Republicans have made the LEGITIMATE term |
WinkyDink |
Mar-29-11 07:13 AM |
#125 |
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I miss the good old days when elders were respected rather |
Vinca |
Mar-29-11 07:13 AM |
#126 |
| -
FTR: Teachers pay SS taxes in 36 states. |
WinkyDink |
Mar-29-11 07:24 AM |
#129 |
| -
To be precise: Defined benefit vs defined contribution |
on point |
Mar-29-11 07:28 AM |
#131 |
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That's easy, the neo-cons, corporations,republicans,etc get thier orders from...... |
nolabels |
Mar-29-11 07:30 AM |
#132 |
| -
Sounds like paying out retirement benefits for elected officials is also |
midnight |
Mar-29-11 07:38 AM |
#133 |
| -
Because you're "entitled" to the money after you've paid in |
Recursion |
Mar-29-11 07:57 AM |
#134 |
| -
You're entitled to get what you paid for. nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-29-11 08:06 AM |
#135 |
| -
When they have to pay you back? |
Historic NY |
Mar-29-11 08:24 AM |
#136 |
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As a mental exercise, just substitute the word "earnings" and regard the similarity. |
TahitiNut |
Mar-29-11 09:07 AM |
#141 |
| -
easy. americans let 1000 radio stations create that reality for guys like the kochs, by allowing |
certainot |
Mar-29-11 09:18 AM |
#142 |
| -
since the reagan era, the gop has been counting social security withholding to |
struggle4progress |
Mar-29-11 09:39 AM |
#143 |
| -
The repukes lie better than the Dems tell the truth!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
BrklynLiberal |
Mar-29-11 09:58 AM |
#145 |
| -
They like to include veterans benefits |
The Wizard |
Mar-29-11 10:01 AM |
#146 |
| -
When warmongering psychopaths own the media. |
Gregorian |
Mar-29-11 10:30 AM |
#148 |
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And it isn't even that we as individuals pay into it. Some of us did |
jwirr |
Mar-29-11 11:01 AM |
#150 |
| -
True dat. I think we need to sack the Republican Party as a viable legitimate electable party. |
earcandle |
Mar-29-11 11:48 AM |
#152 |
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only entitlements for: corporations and the rich, it's called |
katty |
Mar-29-11 12:08 PM |
#154 |
| -
Shut up and drink your tea. |
Kablooie |
Mar-29-11 12:15 PM |
#155 |
| -
Social Security isn't a 401(k) |
DefenseLawyer |
Mar-29-11 12:22 PM |
#157 |
| -
It's so broken, not sure discussion now helps anyway. |
SoulSearcher |
Mar-29-11 12:43 PM |
#161 |
| -
Actually it isn't broken at all |
DefenseLawyer |
Mar-29-11 01:04 PM |
#165 |
| -
Bullshit....Social Security is NOT "broken". |
bvar22 |
Mar-29-11 01:42 PM |
#176 |
| -
whenever i hear social security referred to |
DesertFlower |
Mar-29-11 12:33 PM |
#158 |
| -
When Wall Street |
Turbineguy |
Mar-29-11 01:12 PM |
#168 |
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It's a transfer program, NOT an entitlement! |
colorado_ufo |
Mar-29-11 01:15 PM |
#169 |
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What we thought was ours, is actually theirs |
peace frog |
Mar-29-11 01:57 PM |
#177 |
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C'mon people. Don't be foolish... |
Corruption Winz |
Mar-29-11 02:52 PM |
#179 |
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