EFerrari
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Mon Mar-28-11 12:59 PM
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| -OK, quantify for me when the US should "interfere" with another country |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 12:51 PM |
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Can't. As far as I can tell, it's arbitrary and capricious. |
LiberalAndProud |
Mar-28-11 12:54 PM |
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Again, not asking for the admin's asking for yours...how do you decide this kind of policy? |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 12:55 PM |
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Who says you can't show favoritism? |
brooklynite |
Mar-28-11 12:56 PM |
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There have been a ton of posts asking why Libya and not x, y, z |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 12:58 PM |
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when would I be comfortable with China interfering in another country? |
KurtNYC |
Mar-28-11 12:59 PM |
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So how do you make the decision? Is the test "Would I be angry if China did this?" |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 01:02 PM |
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Or another country interfering in the U.S.? |
gratuitous |
Mar-28-11 01:41 PM |
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Here you go: |
EFerrari |
Mar-28-11 12:59 PM |
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I'm not asking for a history here, I'm asking how you'd decide to take an intervention stand |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 01:01 PM |
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We should "go in" (I assume you mean militarily) as often as Andorra does. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-28-11 01:02 PM |
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If the French had not aided the revolutionaries in this |
Cleita |
Mar-28-11 01:05 PM |
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Exactly -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 01:38 PM |
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the French only aided us with money, ammunition and advisers |
TorchTheWitch |
Mar-29-11 06:19 AM |
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Impossible 'quantify' and 'interfere.' |
elleng |
Mar-28-11 01:06 PM |
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I agree, it is an intellectual exercise, or supposed to be...if you were the person in charge |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 01:09 PM |
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Very difficult to decide in the abstract. Each case/situation/country |
elleng |
Mar-28-11 01:34 PM |
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Off the top of my head, I imagine it would need to fit three qualifications... |
LanternWaste |
Mar-28-11 01:13 PM |
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Thanks, not a bad list--has checkboxes and room for ethics |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 01:15 PM |
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The US shouldn't interfere with another country. |
wickerwoman |
Mar-28-11 01:20 PM |
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Just flat out saying, "We will only go as a coalition, but we will always go as a coalition" |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 01:23 PM |
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Excellent. The US should not be the "world's police". "If the UN decides on an intervention, |
pampango |
Mar-29-11 05:31 AM |
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Diplomacy is the key factor here, but when diplomats are chosen by their capacity to donate |
SoCalDem |
Mar-28-11 01:21 PM |
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When a Democratic President does it. |
displacedvermoter |
Mar-28-11 01:22 PM |
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You've earned two snorts from me in 10 minutes time. |
Skidmore |
Mar-28-11 01:36 PM |
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Need a tissue? |
displacedvermoter |
Mar-28-11 01:44 PM |
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Nah, not that |
Skidmore |
Mar-28-11 01:48 PM |
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When it is on the side of citizens rising up to knock out a dictator --- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 01:37 PM |
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Do Unto Other Countries |
zorahopkins |
Mar-28-11 01:41 PM |
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Military force should not be employed unless a conflict expands beyond a country's borders. |
LiberalAndProud |
Mar-28-11 01:50 PM |
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My three criteria |
Zanzoobar |
Mar-28-11 02:00 PM |
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Well, first off I would |
Rex |
Mar-28-11 02:01 PM |
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You'll need minimum three these days. |
Zanzoobar |
Mar-28-11 02:03 PM |
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Dam, I just sold the third dart to the Chinese. |
Rex |
Mar-28-11 06:40 PM |
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The Standard Is Clear, Sir: When The Moon is In the Seventh House, and Jupiter Aligns With Mars.... |
The Magistrate |
Mar-28-11 02:04 PM |
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+1 :) |
Waiting For Everyman |
Mar-28-11 02:24 PM |
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+1 |
PVnRT |
Mar-28-11 03:19 PM |
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When the people asking for it have themselves or their own kids as the ones going (nt) |
The Straight Story |
Mar-28-11 02:06 PM |
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When they are attacking a peaceful country or the USA. |
VoteProgressive |
Mar-28-11 02:08 PM |
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as libya proves it's a complex and gray issue and pretending there is an easy answer |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Mar-28-11 02:23 PM |
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And that was exactly my point, thanks. People want to see things in black and white, which it never |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 02:30 PM |
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well done |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Mar-28-11 02:31 PM |
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All I know is that we should interfere during genocides. |
Paradoxical |
Mar-28-11 02:34 PM |
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Yup, it looks like a lot of people on this thread have concrete ideas for absolutes |
Godhumor |
Mar-28-11 02:38 PM |
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Should we have turned right around and went after Pol Pot? |
Zanzoobar |
Mar-28-11 02:39 PM |
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Hell yes we should have gone after pol pot. |
Paradoxical |
Mar-28-11 02:59 PM |
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Genocide is the deliberate elimination of some ethnic, racial, religious, or national group |
WatsonT |
Mar-28-11 03:22 PM |
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You are so funny, the US only intervenes when OIL is the major deal. Rwanda, not so much! |
akbacchus_BC |
Mar-29-11 01:17 AM |
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Question 1: did they attack us |
WatsonT |
Mar-28-11 03:17 PM |
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even if they commit genocide? |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Mar-28-11 04:13 PM |
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Define genocide. |
WatsonT |
Mar-28-11 04:14 PM |
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per wiki |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Mar-28-11 04:15 PM |
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How large must such a group be to count? |
WatsonT |
Mar-28-11 04:21 PM |
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no, thats not my reason. i was just giving you examples |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Mar-28-11 10:35 PM |
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Genocide is only one of four crimes covered by the UN's Responsibility to Protect. |
pampango |
Mar-29-11 05:35 AM |
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you and i were voted some of the worst du'ers |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Mar-29-11 09:45 AM |
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Well when Japan attacked Pearl Harbor, they suffered for it! |
akbacchus_BC |
Mar-29-11 01:25 AM |
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In retaliation for an attack within our borders... |
Modern_Matthew |
Mar-28-11 04:16 PM |
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Geography matters. |
moondust |
Mar-28-11 11:39 PM |
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By average height. |
Safetykitten |
Mar-28-11 11:56 PM |
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You asked and am being honest, the US should not be intervening into |
akbacchus_BC |
Mar-29-11 01:15 AM |
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In the case of Libya |
SpartanDem |
Mar-29-11 01:25 AM |
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Name removed |
Mar-29-11 01:28 AM |
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This may seem obvious, but the US is a major part of NATO... |
rasputin1952 |
Mar-29-11 06:31 AM |
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the job of the Pres is to follow the law and ignore their personal feelings |
TorchTheWitch |
Mar-29-11 06:47 AM |
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It is nearly impossible for me to justify a preemptive war as it is a very slippery slope |
Vinee |
Mar-29-11 06:25 AM |
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When OUR oil is under THEIR sands. (Credit that caustic comment to Rep. Kucinich). |
Fly by night |
Mar-29-11 06:39 AM |
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Given the appalling record of US interference in Latin America |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-29-11 09:47 AM |
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When there is an international consensus, like a UN vote for action, with zero dissenters, |
Nye Bevan |
Mar-29-11 09:52 AM |
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There were 5 nations out of 15 that didn't vote for it |
WatsonT |
Mar-30-11 02:20 PM |
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When freedom is a Trend. |
Fire Walk With Me |
Mar-30-11 02:21 PM |
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