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Mon Mar-28-11 11:30 AM
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| 57. Well, I'm not "reluctant to show appropriate outrage" - he IS a "great, loyal tool... |
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...of the establishment"
The sooner we come to grips with that, the better - for the party and, more importantly, the country.
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| -Obama has dampened protest from American liberals though they know he has betrayed them |
Better Believe It |
Mar-27-11 09:11 PM |
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Mar-27-11 09:28 PM |
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Right now I don't know if I would go see him talk if I had a free ticket AND |
postulater |
Mar-27-11 09:28 PM |
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I would not attend. nt |
Enthusiast |
Mar-28-11 04:55 AM |
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I wouldn't either. n/t |
MissDeeds |
Mar-28-11 09:38 AM |
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Count me out as well. |
Plucketeer |
Mar-28-11 06:00 PM |
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I'd go if someone paid me $500 |
Hawkowl |
Mar-28-11 10:29 AM |
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I would probably go, protest sign in hand though. nt |
obxhead |
Mar-28-11 11:27 AM |
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I wouldn't walk across the street to speak with him again - he has so... |
polichick |
Mar-28-11 11:33 AM |
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Only if I had the right to question him.... |
daleanime |
Mar-28-11 11:52 AM |
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I wouldn't |
Raine |
Mar-28-11 11:58 AM |
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You too? |
Beacool |
Mar-28-11 08:24 PM |
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I wouldn't either |
Ricochet21 |
Mar-28-11 01:55 PM |
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We once drove 100 miles to see him and couldn't get in and didn't care - |
Peregrine Took |
Mar-28-11 09:07 PM |
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Give Me Your Free Ticket |
otohara |
Mar-28-11 09:32 PM |
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I'd totally go |
JFN1 |
Mar-29-11 12:22 AM |
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mr linh dinh is a very interesting person |
madrchsod |
Mar-27-11 09:30 PM |
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I agree |
somone |
Mar-27-11 10:45 PM |
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That article is a keeper |
somone |
Mar-27-11 09:40 PM |
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Obama made a deal with the devil. The devil said that either Bush/Cheney declare |
rhett o rick |
Mar-27-11 09:50 PM |
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The more I see of Obama |
hifiguy |
Mar-28-11 09:59 AM |
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Bill Hicks talked about that many years ago... |
truebrit71 |
Mar-28-11 10:01 AM |
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This needs it's own posting |
tavalon |
Mar-28-11 11:16 AM |
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We've had 50+ years of right wing political violence -- that's the only way the rw can rise -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 12:32 PM |
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the only thing that I think isn't true is showing the film: they don't have to. |
yurbud |
Mar-28-11 01:49 PM |
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That's why he is no JFK or MLK. We got his back for him and he pisses on us. |
RedCloud |
Mar-28-11 10:42 AM |
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Exactly how do we have his back? What can we do to protect him from those willing to do most anythin |
rhett o rick |
Mar-28-11 04:35 PM |
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we wouldn't need to protect his back if he would stand up like |
roguevalley |
Mar-28-11 08:16 PM |
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The point i was making in post 5 was that he doesnt have a choice. |
rhett o rick |
Mar-28-11 10:30 PM |
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I was a precinct captain for Obama... |
CoffeeCat |
Mar-28-11 10:50 AM |
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Former presidents have all talked about wealthy controlling nation -- hidden power .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 12:35 PM |
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Well put. nm |
rhett o rick |
Mar-28-11 11:51 PM |
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Yup. They tried to kill FDR too, and failed. With JFK, they didn't make that mistake again. nt. |
mistertrickster |
Mar-28-11 11:56 AM |
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You can take that crazy somewhere else |
obxhead |
Mar-28-11 11:36 AM |
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It's a quibble. Does Obama cave to special interests because its so much easier, or does he |
mistertrickster |
Mar-28-11 11:59 AM |
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Obama is acting rationally |
Lisica |
Mar-28-11 12:11 PM |
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At the state America is at, he's sacrificing his own family to BP and nuke industry .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 12:43 PM |
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It's crazy alright. When people have unlimited power, they will do crazy things. And I am not |
rhett o rick |
Mar-28-11 04:38 PM |
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You're probably right. Terrifying thought, but probably true. |
Raksha |
Mar-28-11 12:54 PM |
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I don't agree with that scenario. I think he is doing his best to represent his class, not us. |
Better Believe It |
Mar-28-11 10:45 PM |
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Then why the change in Bush and Cheney from the egocentric maniacs to the timid mouses |
rhett o rick |
Mar-28-11 11:57 PM |
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R&K n/t |
Toucano |
Mar-27-11 09:51 PM |
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LOL. This runs counter to reality, but that's OK. |
cliffordu |
Mar-27-11 09:57 PM |
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+1 |
JTFrog |
Mar-28-11 12:10 PM |
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K&R for some food for thought |
inna |
Mar-27-11 09:57 PM |
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K&R n/t |
OhioChick |
Mar-27-11 09:58 PM |
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This is looking more and more like the reality of the situation: |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-27-11 09:58 PM |
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Weapons are the only export we lead in - sad beyond words. |
polichick |
Mar-28-11 11:43 AM |
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Quite ironic: Obama ... "Winner of the Nobel Peace Prize" -- !!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 12:44 PM |
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"the recipient of the Nobel Peace Prize" |
Shining Jack |
Mar-28-11 07:56 PM |
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I suppose if you believe that 'war is peace' |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-29-11 12:35 AM |
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Sorry, I've been up for too long and what I said is not what I meant. |
Shining Jack |
Mar-29-11 04:38 AM |
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No, your comment was fine. I should have used the |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-29-11 12:00 PM |
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"The President of the United States is a traveling salesman for the military industrial complex." . |
iwishiwas |
Mar-27-11 10:17 PM |
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Yeah, we got taken on this last deal |
Skip_In_Boulder |
Mar-27-11 10:22 PM |
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How about Sen. Bernie Sanders for Plan B? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 12:46 PM |
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Wow, didn't know about that. |
Shining Jack |
Mar-28-11 08:02 PM |
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That was brutal. |
bvar22 |
Mar-27-11 10:24 PM |
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We been neo-conned. |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-27-11 10:27 PM |
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That article is very true. |
Autumn |
Mar-27-11 10:27 PM |
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Where is the Positive side?? |
opihimoimoi |
Mar-27-11 10:38 PM |
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"Offshoring began under Clinton... |
ProSense |
Mar-27-11 10:54 PM |
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off shoring started in the mid 70`s and it has`t stopped |
madrchsod |
Mar-27-11 10:57 PM |
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But Clinton's NAFTA and almost-free-trade-with-China deals put it in overdrive nt |
MannyGoldstein |
Mar-28-11 05:50 PM |
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"Obama's policies resulting in the same outsourcing that Clinton's did." |
MannyGoldstein |
Mar-28-11 05:53 PM |
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Funny, I don't feel the least bit betrayed! |
UrbScotty |
Mar-27-11 11:47 PM |
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you support all of these policies? |
2banon |
Mar-28-11 10:36 AM |
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Show me the evidence. Which of these has Obama done? |
UrbScotty |
Mar-28-11 04:53 PM |
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According to the complainers site...... |
jaxx |
Mar-28-11 12:15 AM |
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Common Dreams is not a 'fine upstanding site'? You are truly sad. nt |
Bluebear |
Mar-28-11 01:26 AM |
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Common Dreams used to be a very good site. |
QC |
Mar-28-11 07:25 AM |
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Why should they have stopped? |
dbackjon |
Mar-28-11 09:55 AM |
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I guess I should have added the sarcasn smiley. |
QC |
Mar-28-11 10:05 AM |
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Ok - sorry :) Missed that sarcasm |
dbackjon |
Mar-28-11 11:10 AM |
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It's the "It's OK when OUR guy does it" thing again. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-28-11 04:44 PM |
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It's just a site for dissident complainers now! |
Bluebear |
Mar-29-11 12:07 AM |
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They never really, well, you know. n/t |
QC |
Mar-29-11 09:18 AM |
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Stop shooting the messenger - the sooner you wake up, the better. |
polichick |
Mar-28-11 11:45 AM |
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The messenger had nothing to say. |
jaxx |
Mar-28-11 01:41 PM |
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The conclusions you reach are somewhat horrifying. |
Tatiana |
Mar-28-11 02:33 PM |
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Good luck with that. |
Bluebear |
Mar-29-11 12:06 AM |
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Betrayed? |
Rincewind |
Mar-28-11 12:56 AM |
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I think he meant "liberal" as in "left" not liberal as in "neo" |
liberation |
Mar-28-11 04:48 PM |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-28-11 04:58 AM |
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Mar-28-11 05:26 AM |
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k&r |
disillusioned73 |
Mar-28-11 07:07 AM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Mar-28-11 08:32 AM |
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Mar-28-11 08:35 AM |
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WE won't get FOOLED again! (sarc) KNR! n/t |
indimuse |
Mar-28-11 09:33 AM |
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really? so libs dont like him, but they dont protest? |
pasto76 |
Mar-28-11 09:38 AM |
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It always comes down to that, doesn't it? |
davidthegnome |
Mar-28-11 10:14 AM |
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I've been a Democrat since 1964. I have never seen anything |
neoralme |
Mar-28-11 09:49 AM |
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We might actually be better off under Chinese rule - at least they've... |
polichick |
Mar-28-11 11:51 AM |
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You have GOT to be kidding. |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-28-11 12:51 PM |
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I disagree with the other poster but... |
Shining Jack |
Mar-28-11 08:34 PM |
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Right now, that would not be true. Another few years, it would be |
neoralme |
Mar-28-11 04:18 PM |
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couldn't have said it better myself |
BklynThirtyThree |
Mar-28-11 10:06 AM |
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We wanted someone who knew the names of world leaders and pronounce "nuclear" |
kudzu22 |
Mar-28-11 10:12 AM |
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Reluctant to show outrage? |
matt819 |
Mar-28-11 10:12 AM |
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That is a large part of it. Weariness and despair giving way to numbness. |
neoralme |
Mar-28-11 10:37 AM |
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I agree - lack of options is the problem. People don't know what to do now. |
polichick |
Mar-28-11 11:47 AM |
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I don`t know many true progressives or liberals |
democrank |
Mar-28-11 10:40 AM |
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We needed a Mohammad Ali, we got |
Autumn |
Mar-28-11 10:53 AM |
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We needed a Churchill, |
bvar22 |
Mar-28-11 01:17 PM |
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You can't negotiate with those bastards. |
Autumn |
Mar-28-11 01:46 PM |
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Barack Hoover Obama |
MannyGoldstein |
Mar-28-11 05:54 PM |
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Interesting read, thanks! K&R |
KoKo |
Mar-28-11 11:04 AM |
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I'm dampened not because he's a Democrat, |
tavalon |
Mar-28-11 11:15 AM |
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Thank god he is calm but I did expect him to support the liberal base who put him in office. How |
southernyankeebelle |
Mar-28-11 11:16 AM |
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Look to your right and your left, these are your neighbors and friends |
tavalon |
Mar-28-11 11:18 AM |
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You always have somewhere to turn and somewhere to go -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 12:19 PM |
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A lot of us have just totally written him off. |
BlueIris |
Mar-28-11 11:28 AM |
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Totally agree. nt |
Raine |
Mar-28-11 12:12 PM |
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Agree -- reluctance is hooked to acknowledging these are all corporate candidates we're given -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 12:25 PM |
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Well, I'm not "reluctant to show appropriate outrage" - he IS a "great, loyal tool... |
polichick |
Mar-28-11 11:30 AM |
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If the Obama experience hasn't yet woken up Democratic voters, nothing will !!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 12:15 PM |
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"The Rightwing Koch Bros. Funded the DLC" Really? |
Major Hogwash |
Mar-28-11 02:23 PM |
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Really !!! Sadly -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-28-11 11:32 PM |
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+1 |
democracy1st |
Mar-28-11 03:55 PM |
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Nothing like a damned repuke to 'persuade' that our Prez is NOT our Prez. |
elleng |
Mar-28-11 12:21 PM |
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"lessons from Wisconsin" ? |
bvar22 |
Mar-28-11 01:21 PM |
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Wisconsonites were/are happy that PrezO stayed out of it, |
elleng |
Mar-28-11 01:31 PM |
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Oslo should recall that faulty Peace Prize. K&R |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-28-11 12:39 PM |
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K&R. |
old mark |
Mar-28-11 12:53 PM |
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What a naive crock of shit |
Gman |
Mar-28-11 01:02 PM |
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''America has entered a deep psychotic state.'' |
Octafish |
Mar-28-11 01:09 PM |
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Now I understand the need for these wars! |
Frisbee |
Mar-28-11 02:18 PM |
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Mar-28-11 02:23 PM |
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81% Approval among Liberal Democrats |
NeedleCast |
Mar-28-11 02:34 PM |
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And Chocolate Rations are up too |
Ichingcarpenter |
Mar-28-11 02:48 PM |
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81% my hairy arse... |
truebrit71 |
Mar-28-11 02:56 PM |
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And remember, we've always been at war with Libya |
liberation |
Mar-28-11 04:54 PM |
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So "the fringe" is: Women, gays, workers, racial minorities, civil libertarians, the elderly |
Better Believe It |
Mar-28-11 03:00 PM |
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Did he say that? |
Bobbie Jo |
Mar-28-11 04:39 PM |
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K&R |
DeSwiss |
Mar-28-11 02:39 PM |
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k&r. Amen. |
CelticThunder |
Mar-28-11 02:46 PM |
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Good post |
gracchorumspes |
Mar-28-11 02:50 PM |
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The Supreme Court did the betraying! |
keith the dem |
Mar-28-11 03:30 PM |
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After two years in this political environment, with these racist Republicans, blocking |
Liberal_Stalwart71 |
Mar-28-11 04:15 PM |
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Do something about it. |
creon |
Mar-28-11 04:50 PM |
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+1,000,000,000! THANK YOU! |
UrbScotty |
Mar-28-11 04:54 PM |
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Congress |
creon |
Mar-29-11 03:21 PM |
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How do you know these people aren't |
hulka38 |
Mar-28-11 07:26 PM |
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Good |
creon |
Mar-29-11 03:25 PM |
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sadly nails the way too many people I know view Obama at this time. |
RainDog |
Mar-28-11 07:00 PM |
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I'm sick of this shit. |
madamesilverspurs |
Mar-28-11 07:32 PM |
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Reluctantly and sadly kicked and recommended |
OwnedByFerrets |
Mar-28-11 07:43 PM |
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I fell for the whole thing in 08. Goosebumps and all. |
ctsnowman |
Mar-28-11 08:43 PM |
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Did Obama just Start a War in Libya .... |
humbled_opinion |
Mar-28-11 09:01 PM |
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This will be looked back as the true end of Liberalism. |
Safetykitten |
Mar-28-11 09:09 PM |
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lol! This is another bullshit Obama-bashing op-ed from a no-name internet media whore wannabee. |
ClarkUSA |
Mar-29-11 12:49 AM |
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Indeed. |
JTFrog |
Mar-29-11 08:14 AM |
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Lol! |
Marcel |
Mar-29-11 09:16 AM |
#147 |
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Agreed. And when this crap is debunked (as usual), |
ecstatic |
Mar-29-11 12:23 PM |
#150 |
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