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Sun Mar-27-11 03:41 PM
Response to Reply #35 |
| 45. Judi, US based claimants cannot settle with Cuba because of the Trading w/the Enemy Act. |
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Title III of Helms-Burton waives that condition, BUT ... every president since H-B has signed waivers of H-B Title III (keeping it illegal to settle property claims with Cuba).
The US's Cuba policy is a f-ing twisted pretzel.
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| -Cuban kayaker escapes to Oklahoma |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 12:30 PM |
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LBN ? Happened last October. |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 12:35 PM |
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Article was written and posted today. |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 12:36 PM |
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Been a secret since October has it ? |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 12:41 PM |
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I don't know.. |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 12:44 PM |
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I know a great old guy in London |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 12:48 PM |
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Did the us try to prevent him from leaving? |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 05:10 PM |
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Yeah, they are "progressives" all right. |
fittosurvive |
Mar-27-11 12:44 PM |
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Thank you for showing me the error of my Cuba worshipping ways. |
Liberal Veteran |
Mar-27-11 12:48 PM |
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LOL |
malaise |
Mar-27-11 01:53 PM |
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Oklahoma? |
Fuddnik |
Mar-27-11 12:49 PM |
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I live here. How do you think I feel? |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Mar-27-11 01:31 PM |
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I feel your pain. nt |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 03:39 PM |
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I wish there were a smiley for a |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-27-11 03:18 PM |
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Do you realize that you would have to swim through sand and rocks? |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 03:38 PM |
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Don't do it nekkid, our catfish will nip off yer nub |
catenary |
Mar-27-11 05:56 PM |
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Cuba is not a democracy |
bluestateguy |
Mar-27-11 12:50 PM |
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Then how do Cuba's parliamentarians get elected? |
Billy Burnett |
Mar-27-11 12:57 PM |
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There was almost 100% turnout under Stalin too. |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 01:06 PM |
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So, Cuba = USSR? |
Billy Burnett |
Mar-27-11 01:10 PM |
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It interesting to see replies |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 01:13 PM |
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So why did this guy have to flee? |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 01:31 PM |
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Why don't you explain it? |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 04:15 PM |
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Maybe there's a time warp problem here. Without a doubt a lot of people tried to flee from Batista's |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 04:23 PM |
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So, |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 05:09 PM |
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That's absurd |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 05:08 PM |
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As long as they get an exit visa. n/t |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 05:22 PM |
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So all this guy had to do was apply for a visa? |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 05:25 PM |
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I was there in 1995. I suspect I know far more than you do. |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 01:24 PM |
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Brilliant. He has been in and out there for ages. Many of us have known that |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 01:35 PM |
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I was there for three weeks last October |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 01:52 PM |
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I've lived in Cuba, and have been going there regularly from the early 70's. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 02:41 PM |
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I was through out the country and never saw any "resort". |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 03:13 PM |
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You never saw a resort? |
a la izquierda |
Mar-27-11 03:31 PM |
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No I wasn't looking for one. |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 03:34 PM |
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So you learned to sleep standing up, showered in the water falls, ate twigs and berries? n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:36 PM |
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Or maybe the only homeless person in Cuba (for a few weeks). |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 03:42 PM |
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What a weird reply. |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 03:46 PM |
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US citizens are unable to go to Cuba without government permission |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:50 PM |
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Maybe former9thward is Cuban, and isn't saying. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 03:52 PM |
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Oh, right! He should have mentioned it. Makes all the difference in the world, doesn't it? |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:58 PM |
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Yes, I do and many others do also. |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 04:04 PM |
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Maybe you want to edit your post - what you describe is illegal. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 04:10 PM |
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Thank you for your heads up but describing illegal acts is not illegal. |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 04:18 PM |
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Not all evidence is used in court. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 04:21 PM |
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Umm, okay. |
a la izquierda |
Mar-27-11 04:19 PM |
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Strange. Isn't it? |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 04:27 PM |
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Actually, I stay with my family. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 03:33 PM |
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I assume you're having a laugh |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 04:19 PM |
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Post #57 describes my activities there. |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 06:20 PM |
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Wait, you mean Cuba, Missouri, right? |
catenary |
Mar-27-11 05:51 PM |
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There is obviously some thing you can't quite grasp about socialist states. |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 01:11 PM |
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I'm sure you will inform me once you think of something. |
former9thward |
Mar-27-11 01:25 PM |
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Candidiate commissions are not democratic. |
joshcryer |
Mar-27-11 04:13 PM |
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Democratic like "electoral colleges"? n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 04:28 PM |
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"Electoral colleges" do not dictate who your CANDIDATES are. |
joshcryer |
Mar-27-11 05:29 PM |
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Neither do Cuba's candidate commissions (the officers are elected, btw). |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 05:50 PM |
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That's false. You are not allowed to be a candidate without vetting by the commissions. |
joshcryer |
Mar-27-11 06:22 PM |
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So? They determine who wins, regardless of what the popular vote is. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 06:12 PM |
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And our mass media decide which candidates are "viable" |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-27-11 06:21 PM |
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Yes, the MSM is bullshit, but Cuba is all publicly funded. Read about the Varela Project. |
joshcryer |
Mar-27-11 06:25 PM |
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So? The US only allows teabaggers to be candidates. "We still determine who wins." |
joshcryer |
Mar-27-11 06:24 PM |
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BTW. What is Cuba? Raul and Fidel claim that it is a socialist state. nt |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 03:41 PM |
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When I first read that I thought "Wow - Kayaking to a land locked state! That's bold!" |
Taverner |
Mar-27-11 01:01 PM |
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Somebody flees Cuba in search of greater personal opportunities and he's a hero - |
RaleighNCDUer |
Mar-27-11 01:20 PM |
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And hundreds of people coming on foot die annually in the effort. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 01:32 PM |
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"What people don't discuss is the number of Cubans who actually go home." |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 01:49 PM |
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Are you saying you are unaware that Cubans go home from the U.S.? |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 02:40 PM |
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"a negotiated settlement" |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 02:53 PM |
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They don't want people to know that Cuba offered them compensation long, LONG ago, |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:25 PM |
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Judi, US based claimants cannot settle with Cuba because of the Trading w/the Enemy Act. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 03:41 PM |
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Lucky for the previous owners in Canada, Europe, and Latin America, |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:46 PM |
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J.C. Breckenridge, U.S. Undersecretary of War in 1897, sent the following memo.... |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 03:58 PM |
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He and those like him had an unbearable contempt for people of other cultures. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 04:17 PM |
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No |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 05:14 PM |
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jammed in here shoulder to shoulder |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-27-11 02:01 PM |
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Amazing how the Miami "exile" hardliners got their noses out of joint when they discovered |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 02:24 PM |
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The double standard is just astounding |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-27-11 03:24 PM |
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You're right, as in the desperate people in Haiti during the Bush-arranged overthrow of Aristide, |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:34 PM |
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A real gem of an immigrant. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 02:37 PM |
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He wasn't getting the accolades he believed a mighty kayaker deserves. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 02:46 PM |
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Reminds me of an East German swimmer who "defected" during the 1980s |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-27-11 03:26 PM |
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Argh! Can't imagine the cultural shock, Lydia Leftcoast. No doubt he came to regret it fast! |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:38 PM |
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Read 'Open veins of Latin America' and you too will understand |
Avant Guardian |
Mar-27-11 03:26 PM |
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I saw a writer last week comparing the US view of Latin America as the belief |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:41 PM |
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Here's another book for the under-informed here. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 03:49 PM |
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People really should read that. It can be purchased on line, too. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 03:54 PM |
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Well, Cuba's dictatorial government has turned the country into a shithole with its absurd policies |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-27-11 04:26 PM |
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Maybe you could explain how safe some US red states have been for "northerners" |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 04:34 PM |
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Yep, got the "lowdown" on how things work in 2011 America. Sounds like you're stuck in 1961 with the |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-27-11 04:53 PM |
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Routine? It was never routine. You know that. Attempting to misrepresent my comments. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 05:04 PM |
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And right on cue, the irrelevant reply coupled with the pedestrian personal attack. Textbook. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-27-11 05:19 PM |
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In 1972 I was hitchhiking from Ohio to Miami. |
Fuddnik |
Mar-27-11 05:48 PM |
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I'm sure you do. |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-27-11 06:32 PM |
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In 1981? Yes. |
road2000 |
Mar-27-11 05:49 PM |
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1981? No. Reading before you post is essential: |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-27-11 06:28 PM |
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The vast majority of posters here have never been to Cuba. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 04:38 PM |
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A poster who used to post on CNN's old US-Cuba relations board said she, too, would move there, |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 04:41 PM |
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Lets poll people who've never been there and don't know anything about it. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 04:46 PM |
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Oh, jeez. Isn't THAT the truth? People would work until the drop in their tracks, |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 04:56 PM |
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"I would move to Cuba in a heartbeat if I could" - Oh, but you *CAN*. There is absolutely nothing |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-27-11 05:00 PM |
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You're drifting without a paddle by the time you start trying to smear posters. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 05:07 PM |
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Not a bit of it: the Cuban government is a dictatorship, and there are posters who are "pro" that |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-27-11 05:16 PM |
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Ho hum. You seem unaware of many things Cuba related. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 05:17 PM |
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Name removed |
Mar-27-11 05:23 PM |
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I find it strange anyone can support the Cuban government... |
Modern_Matthew |
Mar-27-11 04:40 PM |
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Take some time off learning more about the subject FIRST. |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 04:44 PM |
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I find it strange that anyone can support a gov't that militarily attacks another nation. |
Mika |
Mar-27-11 04:51 PM |
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Amazing image. Thanks for posting it. n/t |
Judi Lynn |
Mar-27-11 05:08 PM |
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Me too. |
naaman fletcher |
Mar-27-11 05:12 PM |
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You and 9thward have had your |
xchrom |
Mar-27-11 04:43 PM |
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You've got to admit that's an ironic headline |
ReggieVeggie |
Mar-27-11 05:11 PM |
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Well... I Guess He Could Have Taken The Panama Canal And Landed In Orange County... |
WillyT |
Mar-27-11 05:16 PM |
#91 |
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