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113. "I was reported to the security forces...I had...to come.... ...I would be killed or jailed..."
Colin Freeman, the Telegraph's correspondent in Benghazi, interviewed one of Gaddafi's military commanders, who defected to the rebels.



I was reported to the security forces and told I had no choice but to come. I thought I would be killed or jailed otherwise.

Gaddafi has never been a good man, he has never convinced me of his cause, and the morale among his troops has never been high.

But I didn't ever want any kind of fighting between Libyans, I thought that would never happen. I would rather things change in a peaceful way than fighting each other.




17.50:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/africaandindi...





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  - Current time in Libya, 3:52am Sunday, March 27  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 08:52 PM   #1 
  - Behind the Scenes of the French Lead on Libya  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 08:54 PM   #2 
  - Finally, I got in a first rec again!  bobbolink   Mar-26-11 08:55 PM   #3 
  - Woot.  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 08:56 PM   #5 
     - So, we need a no fly zone over the recs?  bobbolink   Mar-26-11 09:02 PM   #6 
     - Who in their right minds would support the current regime?  RandySF   Mar-26-11 09:07 PM   #8 
        - It would appear that every society has their irrational people.  bobbolink   Mar-26-11 09:19 PM   #16 
  - Libyan rebels rout Gaddafi forces in strategic town  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 08:56 PM   #4 
  - K&R  pinboy3niner   Mar-26-11 09:07 PM   #7 
  - K&R. nt.  druidity33   Mar-26-11 09:09 PM   #9 
  - The women fighting, organising, feeding and healing Libyas revolution  tabatha   Mar-26-11 09:10 PM   #10 
  - tabatha, what a touching story. Can't believe the "burka" slanders! Here's the link:  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 09:14 PM   #13 
  - "an elegant woman dressed in black trousers and jacket"  tabatha   Mar-26-11 09:15 PM   #14 
     - I wish I saw that article before posting, I will definitely highlight it on day 39.  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 09:17 PM   #15 
     - Apologies for the missed links.  tabatha   Mar-26-11 09:21 PM   #17 
     - Just searched a paragraph of the text in Google. Came up with WLUML (Women Living Under Muslim Law)  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 09:26 PM   #18 
        - That link is worth bookmarking on its own.  tabatha   Mar-26-11 09:42 PM   #23 
           - Yes indeed.  Ghost Dog   Mar-27-11 06:23 AM   #59 
  - This is a wonderful story. It actually reminds me somewhat of my dirtyhippiecommiepinkobum days  bobbolink   Mar-26-11 09:30 PM   #20 
  - I've noticed a lot of repetition of rightwing talking points here on DU  MedleyMisty   Mar-26-11 09:35 PM   #21 
  - Oh, definitely! I posted earlier today to one of them, "Yeah, that's what they said on Faux",  bobbolink   Mar-26-11 09:46 PM   #24 
  - LIBYA HURRA -- !!  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 11:33 AM   #98 
  - I've just posted this in the Editorials Forum with several photos & a couple of videos  Turborama   Mar-26-11 11:52 PM   #36 
     - OMG, so great! Thank you Turborama!  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:30 AM   #78 
     - Excellent.  tabatha   Mar-27-11 11:25 AM   #97 
  - Tripoli witness: Fear and uncertainty  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 09:11 PM   #11 
  - Unbelievable that they have found prisoners underground for years --  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 11:36 AM   #100 
  - Intensive airstrikes on Gaddafi forces along 400km road between Ajdabiyah and Sirte  pinboy3niner   Mar-26-11 09:13 PM   #12 
  - Anyone that thinks Qaddafi deserves one milligram of human sympathy  bluestate10   Mar-26-11 09:27 PM   #19 
  - He must be tried no matter what!  bobbolink   Mar-26-11 09:48 PM   #25 
     - International Court Expects Libyan Prosecution  pinboy3niner   Mar-26-11 09:56 PM   #28 
        - thanks for this. I wonder how far up the chain of command the investigation goes.  bobbolink   Mar-26-11 10:06 PM   # 
  - Airstrikes help Libya rebels advance  pinboy3niner   Mar-26-11 09:38 PM   #22 
  - "have softened up Libyas military considerably." Mushed? Like a smoothie?  bobbolink   Mar-26-11 09:50 PM   #27 
  - Must watch Video: Snipers in Misrata on rooftop Caught on Camera  tabatha   Mar-26-11 09:48 PM   #26 
  - Deleted  tabatha   Mar-26-11 09:58 PM   #29 
  - Weird link, finding links to Tripoli Post, but nothing concrete.  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 10:05 PM   #30 
     - Maybe I should delete it.  tabatha   Mar-26-11 10:06 PM   #31 
     - I'm taking a break, Josh  pinboy3niner   Mar-26-11 10:15 PM   #32 
        - Thanks, niner! for your energy and time.  tabatha   Mar-26-11 10:33 PM   #33 
        - Thanks Niner! Have a good one.  joshcryer   Mar-26-11 10:47 PM   #34 
  - K & R  MedleyMisty   Mar-26-11 11:49 PM   #35 
  - New Libyan rebel leader spent much of past 20 years in suburban Virginia  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 12:10 AM   #37 
  - I hope this will end the al-Qaeda scares on DU.  Amonester   Mar-27-11 12:18 AM   #39 
  - North Africa is Europe's problem not Obama's  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 12:17 AM   #38 
  - Libyan rebels celebrate recapture of Ajdabiya - in pictures  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 12:45 AM   #40 
  - LIBYA HURRA !!  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 11:39 AM   #101 
  - Libya: Bernard-Henri Lvy dismisses criticism for leading France to conflict  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 12:52 AM   #41 
  - Behind the Scenes of the French Lead on Libya  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 12:58 AM   #42 
     - What we're seeing on DU confirms the blah-blah-blah :(  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 02:36 PM   #129 
  - Libya. The Observer debate: Is it right to be intervening in Libya's struggle for freedom?  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 01:10 AM   #43 
  - The people who aren't are giving me the same soulless feeling  MedleyMisty   Mar-27-11 02:52 AM   #45 
     - "soulless" That pretty much says it. I hadn't tought of it exactly that way... I was thinking  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 02:40 PM   #130 
  - AJE: The cost of US action in Libya - video  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 02:15 AM   #44 
  - Libyan rebels are advancing westwards, and claim to have taken complete control of Brega.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 03:29 AM   #46 
  - Libyan rebel fighters have pushed west to Uqayla! Wow...  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 04:43 AM   #47 
  - They take that song "Marching On" seriously!  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 02:54 PM   #133 
  - French jets strike Gaddafi aircraft  muriel_volestrangler   Mar-27-11 04:43 AM   #48 
  - Italian-German plan for Libya: "Gaddafi in exile and more rights to the tribes"  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 04:51 AM   #49 
  - AFP correspondents in Ras Lanuf say rebels have retaken the key oil town.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 04:53 AM   #50 
  - Imperialism gone mad  malaise   Mar-27-11 05:04 AM   #51 
  - They had it 3 weeks ago.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 05:12 AM   #52 
  - oh lord...  dionysus   Mar-27-11 06:13 PM   #174 
  - Al Jazeera's James Bays reported from Uqayla, where opposition rebels had taken control.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:02 AM   #53 
  - Even money that the revolutionaries get safe passage by Sirte.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:02 AM   #54 
  - Why does Bays assume that the opposition would be aggressive?  Waiting For Everyman   Mar-27-11 06:43 AM   #63 
  - Remember, back during the original push, Sirt was negotiating safe passage.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:52 AM   #65 
     - I think you're right.  Waiting For Everyman   Mar-27-11 07:07 AM   #68 
  - I hope that...  CJvR   Mar-27-11 07:16 AM   #69 
     - Depends on whether or not they're looking for a two state solution.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:18 AM   #72 
  - Dozens of Syrians reported killed in Daraa  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:04 AM   #55 
  - 20 protesters killed in the Syrian town, Sanamein  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:05 AM   #56 
  - At least 55 dead in week of Syria protests-Amnesty  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:06 AM   #57 
  - 100 killed in civil unrest in Syrian city  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:08 AM   #58 
  - Moussa Ibrahim, a spokesman for the rebel council said intervention could lead to instability  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:35 AM   #60 
  - "Rockets and bombs will make the country like Iraq, civil war, de-stability, misery"  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:35 AM   #61 
  - Something about this report. "Moussa Ibrahim" is the Gaddafi spokesman...  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 06:38 AM   #62 
     - That's confusing. Could it be two guys with the same name?  Waiting For Everyman   Mar-27-11 07:05 AM   #67 
        - Nope: Our 1123 entry mistakenly referred to Moussa Ibrahim as a rebel spokesman.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:17 AM   #71 
           - There are certainly a lot of DUers who are quoting this bs, too!  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 03:03 PM   #135 
  - A resident of Misrata has told the BBC a huge ammunition depot was hit last night  al bupp   Mar-27-11 06:47 AM   #64 
  - Libyan's State TV's translated response to Rape victim Yesterday  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:04 AM   #66 
  - The Arabic video title says "Iman al-Obeidi tears tears of crocodiles".  Waiting For Everyman   Mar-27-11 07:16 AM   #70 
  - The BBC's Ben Brown in eastern Libya says the rebels are in a state of high excitement  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:20 AM   #73 
  - It would have been better.  CJvR   Mar-27-11 07:29 AM   #77 
     - I'm pissed that they're wasting fucking ammo. :(  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:30 AM   #79 
  - Syrian government officials say President Bashar al-Assad will address the nation soon  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:21 AM   #74 
  - Ras Lanuf!  CJvR   Mar-27-11 07:25 AM   #75 
  - Yep, and Misrata, after being besieged for almost 2 weeks, will have lots of volunteers...  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:28 AM   #76 
     - Ah...  CJvR   Mar-27-11 07:33 AM   #80 
        - Allies keep hitting airstrikes on Misrata, no tanks are going to get to Sirte that aren't there.  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 07:38 AM   #81 
  - Great summation of reasons to support Libya intervention by Juan Cole.  Waiting For Everyman   Mar-27-11 07:56 AM   #82 
  - Thanks for posting that  Iterate   Mar-27-11 09:31 AM   #84 
  - K/R -- LIBYA HURRA!!  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 11:41 AM   #102 
  - Bin Jawwad!  CJvR   Mar-27-11 08:53 AM   #83 
  - thinking about Josh's post above  Yosarian71   Mar-27-11 10:16 AM   #85 
     - Welcome to DU, and the daily Libyan threads in particular!  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 03:20 PM   #138 
     - Welcome to DU, Yosarian71!  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 03:32 PM   #141 
  - Opposition is meeting "absolutely no resistance in its advance"---Jim Maceda, NBC News  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 10:16 AM   #86 
  - Lets hope...  CJvR   Mar-27-11 10:28 AM   #88 
  - "Misurata is under attack, the city and the port area where thousands of workers are"  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 10:23 AM   #87 
  - Tripoli: "It is not easy to get fuel, to get bread, to get anything..."  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 10:31 AM   #89 
  - Tripoli witness: The Whistlers on the Roof...  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 10:37 AM   #90 
  - Yay, War!  deaniac21   Mar-27-11 10:43 AM   #91 
  - Reuters: U.S. to cut its role in Libya soon  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 10:48 AM   #92 
  - Al Jazeera: Rebels say they plan to start exporting oil "in less than a week"  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 10:56 AM   #93 
  - KR  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 11:43 AM   #103 
  - Tarhoni is the Univ. of Washington (state) economics professor.  Waiting For Everyman   Mar-27-11 03:53 PM   #144 
     - Sadly, the three of us were the only posters. "You can lead a horse to water....."  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 04:12 PM   #150 
  - martinchulov: As #Libya's rebels push west, Sirte remains a fortress...  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 11:03 AM   #94 
  - Libyan authorities remove art from journalists' hotel in Tripoli  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 11:10 AM   #95 
  - Rebels now control main oil terminals at Es Sider, Ras Lanuf, Brega, Zueitina and Tobruk  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 11:22 AM   #96 
  - Only Qaddafi's Ouster Defines Success in Libya: Albert Hunt  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 11:33 AM   #99 
  - As protesters come closer to Tripoli, anyone's guess as to what Gaddafi will do?  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 11:44 AM   #104 
  - NATO considers expanded role in Libya  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 11:47 AM   #105 
  - Posted in Pvid: ITV Tonight Documentary: Gaddafi and Me  Iterate   Mar-27-11 11:51 AM   #106 
  - Defense Secretary Robert Gates: Libya not 'vital interest' for U.S.  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 11:51 AM   #107 
  - Libya: 'son of high-ranking official' raped woman detained in hotel  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 12:03 PM   #108 
  - A convoy of 20 military vehicles has reportedly left Sirte moving towards Tripoli--AJE  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 12:26 PM   #109 
  - Mmmm...  CJvR   Mar-27-11 12:34 PM   #111 
  - NATO has begun to execute the no-fly zone operations, naval arms embargo--Bouchard  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 12:32 PM   #110 
  - Libya: Gaddafi forces dig in for stand in home town  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 12:49 PM   #112 
  - "I was reported to the security forces...I had...to come.... ...I would be killed or jailed..."  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 01:06 PM   #113 
  - Link to full story:  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 01:13 PM   #114 
  - Saw this pic on Twitter today.  MedleyMisty   Mar-27-11 01:16 PM   #115 
  - Thanks--that's great!  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 01:21 PM   #116 
  - A graphic description of the horrific aftermath of airstrikes...  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 01:31 PM   #117 
  - I saw that  MedleyMisty   Mar-27-11 02:09 PM   #125 
     - +2 (Bonus point for Keyser Soze reference :) ) nt  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 02:16 PM   #126 
  - BREAKING, CNN: Explosions in Tripoli nt  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 01:35 PM   #118 
  - BREAKING, REUTERS: Two Reuters TV journalists missing in Syria  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 01:39 PM   #119 
  - Another music video  MedleyMisty   Mar-27-11 01:41 PM   #120 
  - Women under Muslim Law - Winter 2011 Newsletter  tabatha   Mar-27-11 01:46 PM   #121 
  - NATO agrees to take full command of Libya operations--Reuters  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 01:50 PM   #122 
  - In Libya, The Truth Is Often Tough To Pin Down  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 02:01 PM   #123 
  - Libyan govt spokesman "appeared to suggest the leader might be moving around the country"  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 02:09 PM   #124 
  - "It's a time of war. In a time of war you act differently." I thought all was well. Peace every  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 04:01 PM   #146 
  - Did someone mention "hallucinogens in their Nescafe"?  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 04:12 PM   #149 
     - Aren't I a damned good straight man for ya?  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 04:14 PM   #151 
        - We're a team, bobbo. YOU ROCK!  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 04:18 PM   #152 
           - I couldn't get here until later today, and I was going into withdrawals!  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 04:27 PM   #154 
  - IMO, that's a good sign -- Gaddifi no longer feels safe at his Tripoli compound --  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 10:15 PM   #177 
  - Al Jazeera: Tripoli strikes hitting road to int'l airport--witnesses  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 02:21 PM   #127 
  - A message to Gaddafi forces from John Fogerty:  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 02:32 PM   #128 
  - Translation of interview with Eman's family (seems for real)  Waiting For Everyman   Mar-27-11 02:40 PM   #131 
  - Jonathan Miller describes how the press tried to intervene:  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 02:53 PM   #132 
  - I saw tape that also showed Miller trying to intervene as Gaddafy thugs shoved the woman into a car  kenny blankenship   Mar-27-11 03:16 PM   #137 
     - Reminds me of an old song...  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 03:25 PM   #139 
        - My favorite song from HAIR! See,, my generation had some lasting effect... ^_^  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 04:06 PM   #148 
  - Another quick tidbit: press release on her from the TNC (now INC)  Waiting For Everyman   Mar-27-11 03:29 PM   #140 
  - Reports from MSNBC, others: Airstrikes hitting Sirte, Gaddafi's hometown  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 03:00 PM   #134 
  - The US has reduced its naval firepower aimed at Libyan forces  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 03:15 PM   #136 
  - Modern warships...  CJvR   Mar-27-11 04:42 PM   #157 
  - CURRENT TIME IN LIBYA = 10:40 PM SUNDAY, MARCH 27  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 03:40 PM   #142 
  - Gaddafi's troops "scared as rats...dropping their weapons & uniforms & dressing as cililians"  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 03:49 PM   #143 
  - Big words!  CJvR   Mar-27-11 05:10 PM   #161 
  - NATO has taken full command of Libya military operations--Sec. Gen. Rasmussen  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 03:55 PM   #145 
  - African migrants fleeing Libya arrived in Italy today (first landing to reach Europe since uprising)  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 04:04 PM   #147 
  - Libya: Airstrikes reported in Tripoli, Sirte--CBS News/AP  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 04:25 PM   #153 
  - Its really getting down to business now. Just saw a teaser on this on teevee.  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 04:29 PM   #155 
     - As long as...  CJvR   Mar-27-11 05:25 PM   #169 
        - the media is pushing Tripoli right now. Any reliable word how well prepared the revolutionaries are  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 05:27 PM   #170 
           - There were coalition airstrikes there overnight  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 05:40 PM   #171 
           - OK, I had missed that.. or hadn't heard it. I hope they were thorough!  bobbolink   Mar-27-11 05:48 PM   #173 
           - Havn't heard anything.  CJvR   Mar-27-11 05:42 PM   #172 
  - Hit by shortages, Tripoli fearful of tomorrow  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 04:34 PM   #156 
  - NATO's new Libya code name: Operation Unified Protector  Tx4obama   Mar-27-11 04:56 PM   #158 
  - Couldn't they be honest?  CJvR   Mar-27-11 05:18 PM   #165 
  - Turkey offers to broker Libya ceasefire as rebels advance on Sirte  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 05:02 PM   #159 
  - So the Turks...  CJvR   Mar-27-11 05:14 PM   #164 
     - Turkey -- not familiar --  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 10:12 PM   #175 
  - CURRENT TIME IN LIBYA = 12:05 AM MONDAY, MARCH 28  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 05:05 PM   #160 
  - Gaddafy spokesman: Eman Al-Obeidy has been released  kenny blankenship   Mar-27-11 05:11 PM   #162 
  - BREAKING, CNN: Thousands march in support of Eman al-Obeidi in Benghazi  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 05:14 PM   #163 
  - LIBYA HURRA -- !!  defendandprotect   Mar-27-11 10:14 PM   #176 
  - She reportedly was offered money and a house to change her story nt  pinboy3niner   Mar-27-11 05:20 PM   #166 
  - Clarifying the Arab League's position...  CJvR   Mar-27-11 05:21 PM   #167 
  - Day 39 here:  joshcryer   Mar-27-11 05:21 PM   #168 
  - Americans of all faiths are praying for you, Libyan brothers and sisters!  txlibdem   Mar-28-11 07:21 AM   #178 
 

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