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'numbers people.' They're kinda on the 'shit list' now because they all went to Wall Street to write computer trading programs.
I loved algebra, trig and calculus....can't remember much of it now, but I loved the way they worked my brain. And I love science as well. A well-rounded person needs a basic knowledge of sciences, math, arts and the social sciences, IMHO. And big doses of common sense and humor are a must as well.....and would it be too much to ask for basic manners and civility as well?
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| -Why the disdain for math, science, numbers, quantitative statements, and cold logic? |
howard112211 |
Dec-27-10 06:10 AM |
#0 |
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Anti-intellectualism |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 06:16 AM |
#1 |
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exactly... are society tends to treat intellects the same way |
ixion |
Dec-27-10 06:36 AM |
#5 |
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And the most frustrating part is the cycle feeds itself. |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 06:43 AM |
#6 |
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Is this why it seems like no one cares about the things I have learned |
Maraya1969 |
Dec-27-10 01:59 PM |
#60 |
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Perhaps they're trying to tell you something |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-27-10 03:03 PM |
#79 |
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No because if I talk about stupid shit and gossip and such there is no problem |
Maraya1969 |
Dec-27-10 03:58 PM |
#97 |
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Sounds like you just have more class and intelligence than they have. |
BlueJazz |
Dec-27-10 05:10 PM |
#118 |
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Here's a Source for You |
Demeter |
Dec-28-10 05:46 AM |
#191 |
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There is somethiong wrong with them - They see through the Emperors New Clothes |
Grinchie |
Dec-27-10 03:33 PM |
#89 |
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In essence, they are. This leeway costs. And so we are allowed to push boundaries |
WingDinger |
Dec-27-10 05:25 PM |
#125 |
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I don't know any anti-intellectuals |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 06:53 AM |
#10 |
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Thank you for illustrating the point. n/t |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 06:54 AM |
#12 |
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Ditto |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 06:57 AM |
#15 |
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LOL |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 07:00 AM |
#16 |
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+1 |
amyrose2712 |
Dec-27-10 08:38 AM |
#40 |
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I know at least a couple of clueless and uneducated pompous assess.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 07:17 AM |
#25 |
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I agree |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 07:30 AM |
#29 |
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It looks like "Idiocracy" is spot on: |
xocet |
Dec-27-10 10:27 AM |
#47 |
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I view it as a documentary. |
WCGreen |
Dec-27-10 02:33 PM |
#70 |
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Sadly, you're correct. nt |
valerief |
Dec-27-10 02:35 PM |
#71 |
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a couple i know decided to have children AFTER seeing that film |
reggie the dog |
Dec-27-10 04:31 PM |
#106 |
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Jeez, not too narcissistic are they? |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 07:30 PM |
#133 |
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they dont act like their kid is better |
reggie the dog |
Dec-29-10 01:44 PM |
#217 |
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There is a problem with that thesis (though I enjoyed the movie) |
bhikkhu |
Dec-27-10 10:00 PM |
#163 |
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that's usually the view of the underintelligent |
mkultra |
Dec-27-10 02:39 PM |
#73 |
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It has nothing to do with intelligence |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 03:22 PM |
#87 |
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and everything to do with mutual respect. |
AlbertCat |
Dec-27-10 10:47 PM |
#171 |
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Mutual respect? Like "jocks" show to "non-jocks"? That kind of respect? |
SharonAnn |
Dec-29-10 12:20 AM |
#215 |
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Respect for someone's knowledge and experience... |
trotsky |
Dec-28-10 06:32 AM |
#192 |
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Your error is thinking you're somehow special |
pintobean |
Dec-28-10 09:33 PM |
#210 |
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And your error is in assuming I think I am. |
trotsky |
Dec-29-10 06:12 AM |
#216 |
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That's because book-learning and common sense |
Patchuli |
Dec-27-10 03:03 PM |
#80 |
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And common sense is no substitute for |
Marr |
Dec-27-10 03:20 PM |
#85 |
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Common sense isn't common |
Lordquinton |
Dec-27-10 06:09 PM |
#128 |
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Hmmph. |
kenfrequed |
Dec-27-10 08:34 PM |
#147 |
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Oh, the sweet taste of irony. |
blackspade |
Dec-27-10 09:45 PM |
#162 |
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You don't know ANY anti-intellectuals? Really??? |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-30-10 02:44 PM |
#227 |
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Because of math? Let's hear all the calls here for Shakespeare, shall we? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 07:05 AM |
#18 |
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I firmly believe exposure to and understanding of Shakespeare should be a requirement |
Codeine |
Dec-27-10 04:55 PM |
#112 |
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Indeed. Cultural literacy is important too... |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 08:49 PM |
#150 |
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You might find yourself enjoying it, now that you don't "have" to read it. |
gkhouston |
Dec-28-10 01:14 AM |
#184 |
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I firmly believe exposure to and understanding of Shakespeare should be a requirement |
AlbertCat |
Dec-27-10 10:45 PM |
#168 |
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Know what'll cure that? Acupuncture and a healthy overdose of vitamin D |
Orrex |
Dec-27-10 07:35 AM |
#32 |
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Absolutely.... |
MicaelS |
Dec-27-10 03:09 PM |
#81 |
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UFO??? |
reggie the dog |
Dec-27-10 04:34 PM |
#107 |
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Anti-intellectualism despises literacy, ideas, and thinking |
LWolf |
Dec-27-10 04:46 PM |
#108 |
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Damn Skippy! Nt |
MrScorpio |
Dec-27-10 04:48 PM |
#109 |
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Absolutely... Something people can't or won't understand & they don't think we should either |
NotThisTime |
Dec-27-10 05:02 PM |
#115 |
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Because thinking hurts the brain. |
hobbit709 |
Dec-27-10 06:19 AM |
#2 |
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It makes so-called "average" people uncomfortable. |
Dulcinea |
Dec-27-10 06:21 AM |
#3 |
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"Math is hard".. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 06:22 AM |
#4 |
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So is oak |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 06:44 AM |
#7 |
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Interesting. Is that why students would rather take it than literature courses? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 07:07 AM |
#20 |
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Who said anything about literature courses being easy? |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 07:13 AM |
#23 |
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While I don't support eliminating algebra, you also have to realize |
Kalyke |
Dec-27-10 11:18 AM |
#50 |
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If you did the problem incorrectly, then you may have arrived at |
Marr |
Dec-27-10 03:26 PM |
#88 |
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taking a different approach isn't necessarily doing it incorrectly |
fishwax |
Dec-27-10 07:51 PM |
#140 |
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This is true, but getting the right answer for the wrong reason should get marked totally wrong. |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 08:52 PM |
#151 |
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I like your idea about double credit |
fishwax |
Dec-27-10 09:22 PM |
#155 |
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I've known professors who do that, actually. n/t |
gkhouston |
Dec-28-10 01:10 AM |
#183 |
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It happened more than once, so, I can say that it was not the wrong reason. |
Kalyke |
Dec-28-10 09:35 PM |
#211 |
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Actually I do recognize that everyone doesn't think the same.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 06:35 PM |
#130 |
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I like that math has one commonly accepted answer |
Confusious |
Dec-27-10 07:47 PM |
#138 |
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Maths teaching that assumes that there is always only one correct solution method... |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-28-10 11:52 AM |
#199 |
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It's not that literature is easy; far from it. It's that math-oriented people often scorn its study |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 08:36 PM |
#149 |
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Formulas to memorize?!? |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 08:55 PM |
#152 |
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Given the choice of a course with an infinite number of correct answers |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-27-10 10:17 AM |
#45 |
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Because they're devices that can be used to invalidate their wild ravings. |
no_hypocrisy |
Dec-27-10 06:48 AM |
#8 |
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Logic in its original meaning was "the ability to demonstrate or refute a claim" |
earcandle |
Dec-27-10 02:10 PM |
#61 |
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Mike Rowe (Dirty JObs) interview here.. some points he makes are very valid |
SoCalDem |
Dec-27-10 06:48 AM |
#9 |
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That's a great show. |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 06:53 AM |
#11 |
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exactly.. see how long you'll last on a jobsite |
SoCalDem |
Dec-27-10 06:56 AM |
#14 |
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As a professional cook |
pipoman |
Dec-27-10 07:56 AM |
#35 |
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lol |
justabob |
Dec-27-10 02:47 PM |
#74 |
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I love it, too! |
Dappleganger |
Dec-27-10 02:20 PM |
#67 |
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I have never, NEVER IN MY LIFE, met a stupid farmer. Not a single one. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-27-10 05:05 PM |
#117 |
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Someone from Iowa once said on another listserv that in the old days |
eridani |
Dec-28-10 01:00 AM |
#181 |
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Kudos to Mike Rowe, he has hit the proverbial nail on the head.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 06:55 AM |
#13 |
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Doing a job well is an art form |
Confusious |
Dec-27-10 07:51 PM |
#139 |
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+1 n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-27-10 10:19 AM |
#46 |
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I believe the redefining of hard work started during the Reagan |
MadMaddie |
Dec-27-10 12:26 PM |
#57 |
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Facts are stupid things |
MNBrewer |
Dec-27-10 05:19 PM |
#123 |
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My grandfather was brilliant at math and pretty well read for his time -- and was a farmer |
JDPriestly |
Dec-27-10 02:58 PM |
#77 |
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That doesn't suprise me, farming is actually very math-intensive |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-10 04:24 PM |
#105 |
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And a dirty-hands job like no other. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-28-10 02:04 PM |
#204 |
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Your premise is completely wrong. The other OP said one law REQUIRED algebra to GRADUATE. There is a |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 07:04 AM |
#17 |
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I was looking at individual posts of the thread, rather than just the OP. |
howard112211 |
Dec-27-10 07:06 AM |
#19 |
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Where is science denigrated? If that was done, it was ignorant. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 07:09 AM |
#21 |
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Well... |
howard112211 |
Dec-27-10 07:27 AM |
#27 |
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There is such a thing as qualitative science, often known as Naturalistic Observation, but also |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 03:35 PM |
#229 |
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Not a single person on that thread did what you accuse |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 05:14 PM |
#120 |
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Thank you. |
Lionel Mandrake |
Dec-27-10 05:23 PM |
#124 |
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Some of us DID realize it wasn't you making the accusations |
GoCubsGo |
Dec-28-10 06:49 AM |
#194 |
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And apparently there is a problem with MINIMUM graduation requirements. |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-27-10 09:28 PM |
#157 |
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self delete |
Sheepshank |
Dec-28-10 12:08 PM |
#200 |
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"it is not practical in everyday life" Large amounts of time |
retread |
Dec-27-10 07:11 AM |
#22 |
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Logic is too harsh for some. They would rather rely on magical thinking. |
dkf |
Dec-27-10 07:16 AM |
#24 |
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I didn't realize how true that was until just recently |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-27-10 07:33 AM |
#31 |
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I don't want to see kids pushed to excel in areas where their abilities and interests are lower |
Still a Democrat |
Dec-27-10 07:22 AM |
#26 |
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I agree. Requiring Geometry and Algebra for high school |
pnwmom |
Dec-27-10 03:49 PM |
#95 |
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Teaching students that practical application makes something important |
HereSince1628 |
Dec-27-10 07:28 AM |
#28 |
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yep |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-27-10 11:56 PM |
#177 |
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I'm OK with it = More Money for Me |
FreakinDJ |
Dec-27-10 07:31 AM |
#30 |
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the health forum has been revealing your topic matter for a long time as it pertains to the left. nt |
xchrom |
Dec-27-10 07:39 AM |
#33 |
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I have to say that I believe the nature of science + media |
pipoman |
Dec-27-10 07:40 AM |
#34 |
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Don't equate science journalism with scientific journals. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Dec-27-10 09:45 AM |
#41 |
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Just one example would be New England Journal of Medicine |
pipoman |
Dec-27-10 10:11 AM |
#43 |
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Almost invariably they do it wrong |
Recursion |
Dec-27-10 12:11 PM |
#53 |
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Yep, exactly my point |
pipoman |
Dec-27-10 08:18 PM |
#143 |
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If they didn't denigrate it than they would feel stupid |
Taitertots |
Dec-27-10 08:09 AM |
#36 |
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This. |
Codeine |
Dec-27-10 04:53 PM |
#111 |
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I must have missed the anti-algebra thread ... |
surrealAmerican |
Dec-27-10 08:12 AM |
#37 |
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Here it is. Link in message block |
Obamanaut |
Dec-27-10 12:20 PM |
#55 |
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hell, algebra helps drug dealers too |
reggie the dog |
Dec-27-10 04:48 PM |
#110 |
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If you don't know math |
notesdev |
Dec-27-10 08:27 AM |
#38 |
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Without Algebra, The Banks Would Rob You Even More |
Yavin4 |
Dec-27-10 08:30 AM |
#39 |
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Science and math explain the natural universe. The arts connect us with the preternatural. There are |
jody |
Dec-27-10 09:59 AM |
#42 |
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Self esteem. If I don't know how to do it, it must be easy. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-27-10 10:13 AM |
#44 |
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Don't mean to lower the intellectual level... |
Bigmack |
Dec-27-10 10:32 AM |
#48 |
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"How could those two things be equivalent?" |
hfojvt |
Dec-27-10 10:33 AM |
#49 |
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Because it's easier and more satisfying to "make up" answers |
ladjf |
Dec-27-10 11:52 AM |
#51 |
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The great ancient geometer Euclid was teaching a child math |
Recursion |
Dec-27-10 12:07 PM |
#52 |
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Here is the reason in a nutshell |
stevenleser |
Dec-27-10 12:15 PM |
#54 |
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In a nutshell: Lazy |
Gman |
Dec-27-10 02:15 PM |
#65 |
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You're talking about one tv show... |
lunatica |
Dec-27-10 12:26 PM |
#56 |
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Thirty+ years later, still value my Algebra I class |
SouthernLiberal |
Dec-27-10 12:44 PM |
#58 |
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I found your reply surprising. |
ieoeja |
Dec-27-10 03:38 PM |
#91 |
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As a fellow programmer I have noticed all the programmers are forgetting |
Imperialism Inc. |
Dec-27-10 03:48 PM |
#94 |
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I grew up in the post-Sputnik era. We all learned algebra. |
mainer |
Dec-27-10 12:47 PM |
#59 |
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We need both math and english grammar skills, not one or the other. |
earcandle |
Dec-27-10 02:10 PM |
#62 |
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Best reply so far. nt |
eppur_se_muova |
Dec-27-10 03:57 PM |
#96 |
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Stupid people are easier to control. They learned that lesson a long time ago. |
fatbuckel |
Dec-27-10 02:11 PM |
#63 |
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Just people that are too lazy to learn it and are making excuses for it |
Gman |
Dec-27-10 02:14 PM |
#64 |
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because if the people understood math better they might be dangerous? |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-27-10 02:15 PM |
#66 |
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I'm an advocate of requiring hard subjects in high school because |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-27-10 02:31 PM |
#68 |
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The habit of thinking. |
EFerrari |
Dec-27-10 03:19 PM |
#84 |
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I like the way you put that. |
Codeine |
Dec-27-10 05:00 PM |
#113 |
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I actually look for things that are challenging for my kid because I'm concerned |
gkhouston |
Dec-27-10 08:13 PM |
#141 |
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Stupid people support stupid causes. Critical thinkers can detect the BS. |
valerief |
Dec-27-10 02:33 PM |
#69 |
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I basically agree with you mostly, but to be fair, that thread did not call for the elimination |
GOPBasher |
Dec-27-10 02:37 PM |
#72 |
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It's our culture |
onlyadream |
Dec-27-10 02:48 PM |
#75 |
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Maybe because writers aren't always good at math. |
jobycom |
Dec-27-10 02:53 PM |
#76 |
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It's funny, though, because the hard sciences are full of great figures |
EFerrari |
Dec-27-10 03:15 PM |
#83 |
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It's Palinism |
dballance |
Dec-27-10 03:03 PM |
#78 |
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because people are intellectually lazy, i guess |
pitohui |
Dec-27-10 03:10 PM |
#82 |
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you can't work in the social sciences these days without math. |
provis99 |
Dec-27-10 03:22 PM |
#86 |
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I think that for the most part, we minimize those things we don't understand. |
LanternWaste |
Dec-27-10 03:35 PM |
#90 |
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Algebra is the mathematical quest for equality! |
DailyGrind51 |
Dec-27-10 03:39 PM |
#92 |
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I think people may be overreacting to the imbalance that occurs |
pnwmom |
Dec-27-10 03:45 PM |
#93 |
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Poetry trumps science, as it is easier to manipulate |
savannah43 |
Dec-27-10 04:07 PM |
#98 |
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There is "poetry" and then there is poetry. True poetry does not manipulate: |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:40 AM |
#186 |
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Know-nothings detest intellectuals -- that's pretty much where we are with rise of right ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-27-10 04:11 PM |
#99 |
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Plenty of it on the Left as well. |
Codeine |
Dec-27-10 05:02 PM |
#114 |
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We "bombed the moon" .... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-27-10 10:06 PM |
#164 |
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The reason is the upcoming relativism. |
DetlefK |
Dec-27-10 04:12 PM |
#100 |
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rock and... |
Duppers |
Dec-28-10 08:58 PM |
#205 |
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I've had conversations about the |
femrap |
Dec-27-10 04:13 PM |
#101 |
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Hey your friends need to eat too. |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 09:03 PM |
#153 |
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Yes, I agree.....fuck the people, |
femrap |
Dec-27-10 10:09 PM |
#166 |
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I guess they should share the sacrifice and be a typical outsourced IT person? |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 10:30 PM |
#167 |
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'shit list' ..... |
Duppers |
Dec-28-10 09:04 PM |
#206 |
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There has been a tendency by artsy-type left-wingers to demonize the technical and logical. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-10 04:14 PM |
#102 |
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I detect the reverse in your post. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 08:35 PM |
#148 |
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You haven't run into those kind of people? They are a bunch of them at my university. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-10 09:31 PM |
#159 |
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Why?..How can you elect the Palins of the world with a population that can think? |
RagAss |
Dec-27-10 04:18 PM |
#103 |
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"a guy who basically did nothing but write poetry" |
Prometheus Bound |
Dec-27-10 04:22 PM |
#104 |
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+1000 |
patrick t. cakes |
Dec-27-10 11:54 PM |
#176 |
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The underlying issue in that thread is not about mathematics. |
LWolf |
Dec-27-10 05:02 PM |
#116 |
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Also, if you don't learn algebra in HS there are opportunities to learn it later |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 05:18 PM |
#122 |
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I think my gripe was that... |
sofa king |
Dec-27-10 05:49 PM |
#127 |
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My problem is that people would rather more kids drop out of school |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 06:11 PM |
#129 |
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In my school Algebra was a required course in 7th and 8th grade. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-10 09:44 PM |
#161 |
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But people ARE dropping out because of the algebra requirement. |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 10:46 PM |
#169 |
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That's one of the strengths of the American system, imo. |
LWolf |
Dec-28-10 10:49 AM |
#198 |
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Why are you being dishonest about the other OP? |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 05:13 PM |
#119 |
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Ironic for an OP championing "cold logic," no? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-27-10 07:37 PM |
#136 |
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I like Arthur C. Clarke's observation. |
sofa king |
Dec-27-10 05:17 PM |
#121 |
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And even with that peer review, it's still only a probability, perhaps a STRONG one, but a |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:24 PM |
#222 |
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Fox News |
Turbineguy |
Dec-27-10 05:28 PM |
#126 |
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Why is it necessary to point out false dichotomies so often? Reality does not exclude quantitative |
patrice |
Dec-27-10 07:01 PM |
#131 |
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The first group the Nazis went after were intellectuals and artists. |
MedicalAdmin |
Dec-27-10 07:02 PM |
#132 |
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BNGO!!! Fascism Anyone?? Check out #11 |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-27-10 07:34 PM |
#135 |
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Actually the intellectuals sat on their asses while the Nazis purged everyone else |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-28-10 06:48 AM |
#193 |
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Willful ignorance .... the new religion. |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-27-10 07:31 PM |
#134 |
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I use algebra DAILY to calculate drug amounts for premature infants |
AllyCat |
Dec-27-10 07:43 PM |
#137 |
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"Well, it all starts when a nulicule comes out of its nest...." |
Kurovski |
Dec-27-10 08:17 PM |
#142 |
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The Left and the Right. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-27-10 08:29 PM |
#144 |
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Cursive writing |
kenfrequed |
Dec-27-10 08:29 PM |
#145 |
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I find it quite insulting |
Libertas1776 |
Dec-27-10 08:31 PM |
#146 |
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I posted above that people with Dyscalculia should be exempt from the requirement. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-28-10 09:13 PM |
#207 |
| -
Not everyone is wired for math. |
Throd |
Dec-27-10 09:12 PM |
#154 |
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Few people are wired for ANY subject. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-27-10 09:40 PM |
#160 |
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Exactly |
bhikkhu |
Dec-28-10 12:27 AM |
#180 |
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Subjects like algebra and logic teach people how to think. |
Marr |
Dec-27-10 09:27 PM |
#156 |
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Ant-intellectualism |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-27-10 09:30 PM |
#158 |
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Okay, the algebra stuff is way crazy town. Algebra teaches outside of "math". |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-27-10 10:08 PM |
#165 |
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Pff, looks like we got ourselves a reader |
HEyHEY |
Dec-27-10 10:46 PM |
#170 |
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Should we drag 'em off an' read him chapter an verse, Vern? |
Kurovski |
Dec-27-10 11:13 PM |
#172 |
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Ah yes the "gut" feeling, let's bring it back to caveman instinct! |
HEyHEY |
Dec-27-10 11:33 PM |
#174 |
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Now you're talkin', buddy! |
Kurovski |
Dec-27-10 11:39 PM |
#175 |
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The Decline of the West, Oswald Spengler (1918 & 1923) |
mckara |
Dec-27-10 11:14 PM |
#173 |
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It allows our would be overlords to get away with their lies. |
diane in sf |
Dec-28-10 12:01 AM |
#178 |
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Believing in virgin births doesn't help matters much, either. |
Kurovski |
Dec-28-10 12:12 AM |
#179 |
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Think algebra's not practical in everyday life? Two words: compound interest. |
caseymoz |
Dec-28-10 01:03 AM |
#182 |
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It's not just math under threat... |
JCMach1 |
Dec-28-10 01:33 AM |
#185 |
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The tread above says 65 BILLION Dollars is unaccounted for in Afghanistan |
Mojeoux |
Dec-28-10 01:42 AM |
#187 |
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Is there no intrinsic value in knowing anything in and of itself? Only value acquired from income |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:43 AM |
#188 |
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Thank You!! |
retread |
Dec-28-10 07:51 AM |
#196 |
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Amazing how common that assumption is, isn't it? I must be a frakking dinosaur. |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:42 PM |
#202 |
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Interesting use of the word "value" then. |
caseymoz |
Dec-28-10 09:38 AM |
#197 |
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Value of some sort is part of what constitutes the "importance" to which OP refers. And |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:40 PM |
#201 |
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Sorry, I have trouble understanding you. |
caseymoz |
Dec-29-10 12:00 AM |
#214 |
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Please see #223 below |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:31 PM |
#224 |
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It could be any of the derivative values that you cite and/or it could be an intrinsic value. |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 01:59 PM |
#219 |
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Thomas R. Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:28 PM |
#223 |
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I truly DESPISE that attitude. It's a legacy of Calvinism. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-28-10 09:19 PM |
#208 |
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Honest Rationalism would recognize the NECESSITY of qualifying such a |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 01:22 PM |
#218 |
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BTW, I pretty much DESPISE it too! nt |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:09 PM |
#221 |
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I don't want to get rid of it. |
Lucian |
Dec-28-10 01:50 AM |
#189 |
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truly not being able to do math is a learning disability, discalculia, and should allow exemption... |
Odin2005 |
Dec-28-10 09:22 PM |
#209 |
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I have to respond to this, even though I'm mostly a lurker. |
prete_nero |
Dec-28-10 03:16 AM |
#190 |
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At least you TRIED to do it, and that's the whole point. |
GoCubsGo |
Dec-28-10 07:05 AM |
#195 |
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Yep! Give anyone the answer book and s/he can "teach"! |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:45 PM |
#203 |
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As someone in the natural sciences |
XemaSab |
Dec-28-10 09:48 PM |
#212 |
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Where I live, people think any plural ends in 's n/t |
kittykitty |
Dec-28-10 10:26 PM |
#213 |
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And if you say anything about it they say, "Well, we know what is meant, so it doesn't matter." |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:04 PM |
#220 |
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It`s easier to control stupid people. |
fatbuckel |
Dec-30-10 02:41 PM |
#225 |
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When it comes to Education, I think the issues you raise are best addressed by Paulo Freire |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:42 PM |
#226 |
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It's less work to believe that the earth is flat, the night sky is papier mache with pin holes |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-30-10 02:46 PM |
#228 |
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