| 56. You're talking about one tv show... |
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I work in UC Berkeley and believe me, science and math as well as research in 100 of areas are still hopping hot subjects. Hell! Even BP has given huge grants for research on things from stem cells to alternate energy research. I'm sure they plan to own the patents on all of it.
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| -Why the disdain for math, science, numbers, quantitative statements, and cold logic? |
howard112211 |
Dec-27-10 06:10 AM |
#0 |
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Anti-intellectualism |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 06:16 AM |
#1 |
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exactly... are society tends to treat intellects the same way |
ixion |
Dec-27-10 06:36 AM |
#5 |
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And the most frustrating part is the cycle feeds itself. |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 06:43 AM |
#6 |
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Is this why it seems like no one cares about the things I have learned |
Maraya1969 |
Dec-27-10 01:59 PM |
#60 |
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Perhaps they're trying to tell you something |
Cronus Protagonist |
Dec-27-10 03:03 PM |
#79 |
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No because if I talk about stupid shit and gossip and such there is no problem |
Maraya1969 |
Dec-27-10 03:58 PM |
#97 |
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Sounds like you just have more class and intelligence than they have. |
BlueJazz |
Dec-27-10 05:10 PM |
#118 |
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Here's a Source for You |
Demeter |
Dec-28-10 05:46 AM |
#191 |
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There is somethiong wrong with them - They see through the Emperors New Clothes |
Grinchie |
Dec-27-10 03:33 PM |
#89 |
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In essence, they are. This leeway costs. And so we are allowed to push boundaries |
WingDinger |
Dec-27-10 05:25 PM |
#125 |
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I don't know any anti-intellectuals |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 06:53 AM |
#10 |
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Thank you for illustrating the point. n/t |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 06:54 AM |
#12 |
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Ditto |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 06:57 AM |
#15 |
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LOL |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 07:00 AM |
#16 |
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+1 |
amyrose2712 |
Dec-27-10 08:38 AM |
#40 |
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I know at least a couple of clueless and uneducated pompous assess.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 07:17 AM |
#25 |
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I agree |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 07:30 AM |
#29 |
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It looks like "Idiocracy" is spot on: |
xocet |
Dec-27-10 10:27 AM |
#47 |
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I view it as a documentary. |
WCGreen |
Dec-27-10 02:33 PM |
#70 |
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Sadly, you're correct. nt |
valerief |
Dec-27-10 02:35 PM |
#71 |
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a couple i know decided to have children AFTER seeing that film |
reggie the dog |
Dec-27-10 04:31 PM |
#106 |
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Jeez, not too narcissistic are they? |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 07:30 PM |
#133 |
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they dont act like their kid is better |
reggie the dog |
Dec-29-10 01:44 PM |
#217 |
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There is a problem with that thesis (though I enjoyed the movie) |
bhikkhu |
Dec-27-10 10:00 PM |
#163 |
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that's usually the view of the underintelligent |
mkultra |
Dec-27-10 02:39 PM |
#73 |
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It has nothing to do with intelligence |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 03:22 PM |
#87 |
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and everything to do with mutual respect. |
AlbertCat |
Dec-27-10 10:47 PM |
#171 |
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Mutual respect? Like "jocks" show to "non-jocks"? That kind of respect? |
SharonAnn |
Dec-29-10 12:20 AM |
#215 |
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Respect for someone's knowledge and experience... |
trotsky |
Dec-28-10 06:32 AM |
#192 |
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Your error is thinking you're somehow special |
pintobean |
Dec-28-10 09:33 PM |
#210 |
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And your error is in assuming I think I am. |
trotsky |
Dec-29-10 06:12 AM |
#216 |
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That's because book-learning and common sense |
Patchuli |
Dec-27-10 03:03 PM |
#80 |
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And common sense is no substitute for |
Marr |
Dec-27-10 03:20 PM |
#85 |
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Common sense isn't common |
Lordquinton |
Dec-27-10 06:09 PM |
#128 |
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Hmmph. |
kenfrequed |
Dec-27-10 08:34 PM |
#147 |
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Oh, the sweet taste of irony. |
blackspade |
Dec-27-10 09:45 PM |
#162 |
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You don't know ANY anti-intellectuals? Really??? |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-30-10 02:44 PM |
#227 |
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Because of math? Let's hear all the calls here for Shakespeare, shall we? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 07:05 AM |
#18 |
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I firmly believe exposure to and understanding of Shakespeare should be a requirement |
Codeine |
Dec-27-10 04:55 PM |
#112 |
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Indeed. Cultural literacy is important too... |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 08:49 PM |
#150 |
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You might find yourself enjoying it, now that you don't "have" to read it. |
gkhouston |
Dec-28-10 01:14 AM |
#184 |
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I firmly believe exposure to and understanding of Shakespeare should be a requirement |
AlbertCat |
Dec-27-10 10:45 PM |
#168 |
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Know what'll cure that? Acupuncture and a healthy overdose of vitamin D |
Orrex |
Dec-27-10 07:35 AM |
#32 |
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Absolutely.... |
MicaelS |
Dec-27-10 03:09 PM |
#81 |
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UFO??? |
reggie the dog |
Dec-27-10 04:34 PM |
#107 |
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Anti-intellectualism despises literacy, ideas, and thinking |
LWolf |
Dec-27-10 04:46 PM |
#108 |
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Damn Skippy! Nt |
MrScorpio |
Dec-27-10 04:48 PM |
#109 |
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Absolutely... Something people can't or won't understand & they don't think we should either |
NotThisTime |
Dec-27-10 05:02 PM |
#115 |
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Because thinking hurts the brain. |
hobbit709 |
Dec-27-10 06:19 AM |
#2 |
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It makes so-called "average" people uncomfortable. |
Dulcinea |
Dec-27-10 06:21 AM |
#3 |
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"Math is hard".. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 06:22 AM |
#4 |
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So is oak |
pintobean |
Dec-27-10 06:44 AM |
#7 |
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Interesting. Is that why students would rather take it than literature courses? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 07:07 AM |
#20 |
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Who said anything about literature courses being easy? |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 07:13 AM |
#23 |
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While I don't support eliminating algebra, you also have to realize |
Kalyke |
Dec-27-10 11:18 AM |
#50 |
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If you did the problem incorrectly, then you may have arrived at |
Marr |
Dec-27-10 03:26 PM |
#88 |
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taking a different approach isn't necessarily doing it incorrectly |
fishwax |
Dec-27-10 07:51 PM |
#140 |
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This is true, but getting the right answer for the wrong reason should get marked totally wrong. |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 08:52 PM |
#151 |
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I like your idea about double credit |
fishwax |
Dec-27-10 09:22 PM |
#155 |
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I've known professors who do that, actually. n/t |
gkhouston |
Dec-28-10 01:10 AM |
#183 |
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It happened more than once, so, I can say that it was not the wrong reason. |
Kalyke |
Dec-28-10 09:35 PM |
#211 |
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Actually I do recognize that everyone doesn't think the same.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 06:35 PM |
#130 |
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I like that math has one commonly accepted answer |
Confusious |
Dec-27-10 07:47 PM |
#138 |
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Maths teaching that assumes that there is always only one correct solution method... |
LeftishBrit |
Dec-28-10 11:52 AM |
#199 |
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It's not that literature is easy; far from it. It's that math-oriented people often scorn its study |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 08:36 PM |
#149 |
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Formulas to memorize?!? |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 08:55 PM |
#152 |
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Given the choice of a course with an infinite number of correct answers |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-27-10 10:17 AM |
#45 |
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Because they're devices that can be used to invalidate their wild ravings. |
no_hypocrisy |
Dec-27-10 06:48 AM |
#8 |
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Logic in its original meaning was "the ability to demonstrate or refute a claim" |
earcandle |
Dec-27-10 02:10 PM |
#61 |
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Mike Rowe (Dirty JObs) interview here.. some points he makes are very valid |
SoCalDem |
Dec-27-10 06:48 AM |
#9 |
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That's a great show. |
trotsky |
Dec-27-10 06:53 AM |
#11 |
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exactly.. see how long you'll last on a jobsite |
SoCalDem |
Dec-27-10 06:56 AM |
#14 |
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As a professional cook |
pipoman |
Dec-27-10 07:56 AM |
#35 |
| -
lol |
justabob |
Dec-27-10 02:47 PM |
#74 |
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I love it, too! |
Dappleganger |
Dec-27-10 02:20 PM |
#67 |
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I have never, NEVER IN MY LIFE, met a stupid farmer. Not a single one. |
AtheistCrusader |
Dec-27-10 05:05 PM |
#117 |
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Someone from Iowa once said on another listserv that in the old days |
eridani |
Dec-28-10 01:00 AM |
#181 |
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Kudos to Mike Rowe, he has hit the proverbial nail on the head.. |
Fumesucker |
Dec-27-10 06:55 AM |
#13 |
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Doing a job well is an art form |
Confusious |
Dec-27-10 07:51 PM |
#139 |
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+1 n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-27-10 10:19 AM |
#46 |
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I believe the redefining of hard work started during the Reagan |
MadMaddie |
Dec-27-10 12:26 PM |
#57 |
| -
Facts are stupid things |
MNBrewer |
Dec-27-10 05:19 PM |
#123 |
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My grandfather was brilliant at math and pretty well read for his time -- and was a farmer |
JDPriestly |
Dec-27-10 02:58 PM |
#77 |
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That doesn't suprise me, farming is actually very math-intensive |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-10 04:24 PM |
#105 |
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And a dirty-hands job like no other. |
JDPriestly |
Dec-28-10 02:04 PM |
#204 |
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Your premise is completely wrong. The other OP said one law REQUIRED algebra to GRADUATE. There is a |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 07:04 AM |
#17 |
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I was looking at individual posts of the thread, rather than just the OP. |
howard112211 |
Dec-27-10 07:06 AM |
#19 |
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Where is science denigrated? If that was done, it was ignorant. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 07:09 AM |
#21 |
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Well... |
howard112211 |
Dec-27-10 07:27 AM |
#27 |
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There is such a thing as qualitative science, often known as Naturalistic Observation, but also |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 03:35 PM |
#229 |
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Not a single person on that thread did what you accuse |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 05:14 PM |
#120 |
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Thank you. |
Lionel Mandrake |
Dec-27-10 05:23 PM |
#124 |
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Some of us DID realize it wasn't you making the accusations |
GoCubsGo |
Dec-28-10 06:49 AM |
#194 |
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And apparently there is a problem with MINIMUM graduation requirements. |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-27-10 09:28 PM |
#157 |
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self delete |
Sheepshank |
Dec-28-10 12:08 PM |
#200 |
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"it is not practical in everyday life" Large amounts of time |
retread |
Dec-27-10 07:11 AM |
#22 |
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Logic is too harsh for some. They would rather rely on magical thinking. |
dkf |
Dec-27-10 07:16 AM |
#24 |
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I didn't realize how true that was until just recently |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-27-10 07:33 AM |
#31 |
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I don't want to see kids pushed to excel in areas where their abilities and interests are lower |
Still a Democrat |
Dec-27-10 07:22 AM |
#26 |
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I agree. Requiring Geometry and Algebra for high school |
pnwmom |
Dec-27-10 03:49 PM |
#95 |
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Teaching students that practical application makes something important |
HereSince1628 |
Dec-27-10 07:28 AM |
#28 |
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yep |
Swamp Rat |
Dec-27-10 11:56 PM |
#177 |
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I'm OK with it = More Money for Me |
FreakinDJ |
Dec-27-10 07:31 AM |
#30 |
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the health forum has been revealing your topic matter for a long time as it pertains to the left. nt |
xchrom |
Dec-27-10 07:39 AM |
#33 |
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I have to say that I believe the nature of science + media |
pipoman |
Dec-27-10 07:40 AM |
#34 |
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Don't equate science journalism with scientific journals. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Dec-27-10 09:45 AM |
#41 |
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Just one example would be New England Journal of Medicine |
pipoman |
Dec-27-10 10:11 AM |
#43 |
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Almost invariably they do it wrong |
Recursion |
Dec-27-10 12:11 PM |
#53 |
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Yep, exactly my point |
pipoman |
Dec-27-10 08:18 PM |
#143 |
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If they didn't denigrate it than they would feel stupid |
Taitertots |
Dec-27-10 08:09 AM |
#36 |
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This. |
Codeine |
Dec-27-10 04:53 PM |
#111 |
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I must have missed the anti-algebra thread ... |
surrealAmerican |
Dec-27-10 08:12 AM |
#37 |
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Here it is. Link in message block |
Obamanaut |
Dec-27-10 12:20 PM |
#55 |
| -
hell, algebra helps drug dealers too |
reggie the dog |
Dec-27-10 04:48 PM |
#110 |
| -
If you don't know math |
notesdev |
Dec-27-10 08:27 AM |
#38 |
| -
Without Algebra, The Banks Would Rob You Even More |
Yavin4 |
Dec-27-10 08:30 AM |
#39 |
| -
Science and math explain the natural universe. The arts connect us with the preternatural. There are |
jody |
Dec-27-10 09:59 AM |
#42 |
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Self esteem. If I don't know how to do it, it must be easy. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-27-10 10:13 AM |
#44 |
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Don't mean to lower the intellectual level... |
Bigmack |
Dec-27-10 10:32 AM |
#48 |
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"How could those two things be equivalent?" |
hfojvt |
Dec-27-10 10:33 AM |
#49 |
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Because it's easier and more satisfying to "make up" answers |
ladjf |
Dec-27-10 11:52 AM |
#51 |
| -
The great ancient geometer Euclid was teaching a child math |
Recursion |
Dec-27-10 12:07 PM |
#52 |
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Here is the reason in a nutshell |
stevenleser |
Dec-27-10 12:15 PM |
#54 |
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In a nutshell: Lazy |
Gman |
Dec-27-10 02:15 PM |
#65 |
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You're talking about one tv show... |
lunatica |
Dec-27-10 12:26 PM |
#56 |
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Thirty+ years later, still value my Algebra I class |
SouthernLiberal |
Dec-27-10 12:44 PM |
#58 |
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I found your reply surprising. |
ieoeja |
Dec-27-10 03:38 PM |
#91 |
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As a fellow programmer I have noticed all the programmers are forgetting |
Imperialism Inc. |
Dec-27-10 03:48 PM |
#94 |
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I grew up in the post-Sputnik era. We all learned algebra. |
mainer |
Dec-27-10 12:47 PM |
#59 |
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We need both math and english grammar skills, not one or the other. |
earcandle |
Dec-27-10 02:10 PM |
#62 |
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Best reply so far. nt |
eppur_se_muova |
Dec-27-10 03:57 PM |
#96 |
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Stupid people are easier to control. They learned that lesson a long time ago. |
fatbuckel |
Dec-27-10 02:11 PM |
#63 |
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Just people that are too lazy to learn it and are making excuses for it |
Gman |
Dec-27-10 02:14 PM |
#64 |
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because if the people understood math better they might be dangerous? |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-27-10 02:15 PM |
#66 |
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I'm an advocate of requiring hard subjects in high school because |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Dec-27-10 02:31 PM |
#68 |
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The habit of thinking. |
EFerrari |
Dec-27-10 03:19 PM |
#84 |
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I like the way you put that. |
Codeine |
Dec-27-10 05:00 PM |
#113 |
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I actually look for things that are challenging for my kid because I'm concerned |
gkhouston |
Dec-27-10 08:13 PM |
#141 |
| -
Stupid people support stupid causes. Critical thinkers can detect the BS. |
valerief |
Dec-27-10 02:33 PM |
#69 |
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I basically agree with you mostly, but to be fair, that thread did not call for the elimination |
GOPBasher |
Dec-27-10 02:37 PM |
#72 |
| -
It's our culture |
onlyadream |
Dec-27-10 02:48 PM |
#75 |
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Maybe because writers aren't always good at math. |
jobycom |
Dec-27-10 02:53 PM |
#76 |
| -
It's funny, though, because the hard sciences are full of great figures |
EFerrari |
Dec-27-10 03:15 PM |
#83 |
| -
It's Palinism |
dballance |
Dec-27-10 03:03 PM |
#78 |
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because people are intellectually lazy, i guess |
pitohui |
Dec-27-10 03:10 PM |
#82 |
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you can't work in the social sciences these days without math. |
provis99 |
Dec-27-10 03:22 PM |
#86 |
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I think that for the most part, we minimize those things we don't understand. |
LanternWaste |
Dec-27-10 03:35 PM |
#90 |
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Algebra is the mathematical quest for equality! |
DailyGrind51 |
Dec-27-10 03:39 PM |
#92 |
| -
I think people may be overreacting to the imbalance that occurs |
pnwmom |
Dec-27-10 03:45 PM |
#93 |
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Poetry trumps science, as it is easier to manipulate |
savannah43 |
Dec-27-10 04:07 PM |
#98 |
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There is "poetry" and then there is poetry. True poetry does not manipulate: |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:40 AM |
#186 |
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Know-nothings detest intellectuals -- that's pretty much where we are with rise of right ... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-27-10 04:11 PM |
#99 |
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Plenty of it on the Left as well. |
Codeine |
Dec-27-10 05:02 PM |
#114 |
| -
We "bombed the moon" .... ??? |
defendandprotect |
Dec-27-10 10:06 PM |
#164 |
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The reason is the upcoming relativism. |
DetlefK |
Dec-27-10 04:12 PM |
#100 |
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rock and... |
Duppers |
Dec-28-10 08:58 PM |
#205 |
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I've had conversations about the |
femrap |
Dec-27-10 04:13 PM |
#101 |
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Hey your friends need to eat too. |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 09:03 PM |
#153 |
| -
Yes, I agree.....fuck the people, |
femrap |
Dec-27-10 10:09 PM |
#166 |
| -
I guess they should share the sacrifice and be a typical outsourced IT person? |
Lucky Luciano |
Dec-27-10 10:30 PM |
#167 |
| -
'shit list' ..... |
Duppers |
Dec-28-10 09:04 PM |
#206 |
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There has been a tendency by artsy-type left-wingers to demonize the technical and logical. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-10 04:14 PM |
#102 |
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I detect the reverse in your post. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-27-10 08:35 PM |
#148 |
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You haven't run into those kind of people? They are a bunch of them at my university. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-10 09:31 PM |
#159 |
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Why?..How can you elect the Palins of the world with a population that can think? |
RagAss |
Dec-27-10 04:18 PM |
#103 |
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"a guy who basically did nothing but write poetry" |
Prometheus Bound |
Dec-27-10 04:22 PM |
#104 |
| -
+1000 |
patrick t. cakes |
Dec-27-10 11:54 PM |
#176 |
| -
The underlying issue in that thread is not about mathematics. |
LWolf |
Dec-27-10 05:02 PM |
#116 |
| -
Also, if you don't learn algebra in HS there are opportunities to learn it later |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 05:18 PM |
#122 |
| -
I think my gripe was that... |
sofa king |
Dec-27-10 05:49 PM |
#127 |
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My problem is that people would rather more kids drop out of school |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 06:11 PM |
#129 |
| -
In my school Algebra was a required course in 7th and 8th grade. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-27-10 09:44 PM |
#161 |
| -
But people ARE dropping out because of the algebra requirement. |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 10:46 PM |
#169 |
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That's one of the strengths of the American system, imo. |
LWolf |
Dec-28-10 10:49 AM |
#198 |
| -
Why are you being dishonest about the other OP? |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-27-10 05:13 PM |
#119 |
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Ironic for an OP championing "cold logic," no? |
WildEyedLiberal |
Dec-27-10 07:37 PM |
#136 |
| -
I like Arthur C. Clarke's observation. |
sofa king |
Dec-27-10 05:17 PM |
#121 |
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And even with that peer review, it's still only a probability, perhaps a STRONG one, but a |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:24 PM |
#222 |
| -
Fox News |
Turbineguy |
Dec-27-10 05:28 PM |
#126 |
| -
Why is it necessary to point out false dichotomies so often? Reality does not exclude quantitative |
patrice |
Dec-27-10 07:01 PM |
#131 |
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The first group the Nazis went after were intellectuals and artists. |
MedicalAdmin |
Dec-27-10 07:02 PM |
#132 |
| -
BNGO!!! Fascism Anyone?? Check out #11 |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-27-10 07:34 PM |
#135 |
| -
Actually the intellectuals sat on their asses while the Nazis purged everyone else |
NNN0LHI |
Dec-28-10 06:48 AM |
#193 |
| -
Willful ignorance .... the new religion. |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-27-10 07:31 PM |
#134 |
| -
I use algebra DAILY to calculate drug amounts for premature infants |
AllyCat |
Dec-27-10 07:43 PM |
#137 |
| -
"Well, it all starts when a nulicule comes out of its nest...." |
Kurovski |
Dec-27-10 08:17 PM |
#142 |
| -
The Left and the Right. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-27-10 08:29 PM |
#144 |
| -
Cursive writing |
kenfrequed |
Dec-27-10 08:29 PM |
#145 |
| -
I find it quite insulting |
Libertas1776 |
Dec-27-10 08:31 PM |
#146 |
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I posted above that people with Dyscalculia should be exempt from the requirement. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-28-10 09:13 PM |
#207 |
| -
Not everyone is wired for math. |
Throd |
Dec-27-10 09:12 PM |
#154 |
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Few people are wired for ANY subject. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-27-10 09:40 PM |
#160 |
| -
Exactly |
bhikkhu |
Dec-28-10 12:27 AM |
#180 |
| -
Subjects like algebra and logic teach people how to think. |
Marr |
Dec-27-10 09:27 PM |
#156 |
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Ant-intellectualism |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-27-10 09:30 PM |
#158 |
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Okay, the algebra stuff is way crazy town. Algebra teaches outside of "math". |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-27-10 10:08 PM |
#165 |
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Pff, looks like we got ourselves a reader |
HEyHEY |
Dec-27-10 10:46 PM |
#170 |
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Should we drag 'em off an' read him chapter an verse, Vern? |
Kurovski |
Dec-27-10 11:13 PM |
#172 |
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Ah yes the "gut" feeling, let's bring it back to caveman instinct! |
HEyHEY |
Dec-27-10 11:33 PM |
#174 |
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Now you're talkin', buddy! |
Kurovski |
Dec-27-10 11:39 PM |
#175 |
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The Decline of the West, Oswald Spengler (1918 & 1923) |
mckara |
Dec-27-10 11:14 PM |
#173 |
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It allows our would be overlords to get away with their lies. |
diane in sf |
Dec-28-10 12:01 AM |
#178 |
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Believing in virgin births doesn't help matters much, either. |
Kurovski |
Dec-28-10 12:12 AM |
#179 |
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Think algebra's not practical in everyday life? Two words: compound interest. |
caseymoz |
Dec-28-10 01:03 AM |
#182 |
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It's not just math under threat... |
JCMach1 |
Dec-28-10 01:33 AM |
#185 |
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The tread above says 65 BILLION Dollars is unaccounted for in Afghanistan |
Mojeoux |
Dec-28-10 01:42 AM |
#187 |
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Is there no intrinsic value in knowing anything in and of itself? Only value acquired from income |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:43 AM |
#188 |
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Thank You!! |
retread |
Dec-28-10 07:51 AM |
#196 |
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Amazing how common that assumption is, isn't it? I must be a frakking dinosaur. |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:42 PM |
#202 |
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Interesting use of the word "value" then. |
caseymoz |
Dec-28-10 09:38 AM |
#197 |
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Value of some sort is part of what constitutes the "importance" to which OP refers. And |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:40 PM |
#201 |
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Sorry, I have trouble understanding you. |
caseymoz |
Dec-29-10 12:00 AM |
#214 |
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Please see #223 below |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:31 PM |
#224 |
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It could be any of the derivative values that you cite and/or it could be an intrinsic value. |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 01:59 PM |
#219 |
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Thomas R. Kuhn's The Structure of Scientific Revolutions |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:28 PM |
#223 |
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I truly DESPISE that attitude. It's a legacy of Calvinism. |
Odin2005 |
Dec-28-10 09:19 PM |
#208 |
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Honest Rationalism would recognize the NECESSITY of qualifying such a |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 01:22 PM |
#218 |
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BTW, I pretty much DESPISE it too! nt |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:09 PM |
#221 |
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I don't want to get rid of it. |
Lucian |
Dec-28-10 01:50 AM |
#189 |
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truly not being able to do math is a learning disability, discalculia, and should allow exemption... |
Odin2005 |
Dec-28-10 09:22 PM |
#209 |
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I have to respond to this, even though I'm mostly a lurker. |
prete_nero |
Dec-28-10 03:16 AM |
#190 |
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At least you TRIED to do it, and that's the whole point. |
GoCubsGo |
Dec-28-10 07:05 AM |
#195 |
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Yep! Give anyone the answer book and s/he can "teach"! |
patrice |
Dec-28-10 01:45 PM |
#203 |
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As someone in the natural sciences |
XemaSab |
Dec-28-10 09:48 PM |
#212 |
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Where I live, people think any plural ends in 's n/t |
kittykitty |
Dec-28-10 10:26 PM |
#213 |
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And if you say anything about it they say, "Well, we know what is meant, so it doesn't matter." |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:04 PM |
#220 |
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It`s easier to control stupid people. |
fatbuckel |
Dec-30-10 02:41 PM |
#225 |
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When it comes to Education, I think the issues you raise are best addressed by Paulo Freire |
patrice |
Dec-30-10 02:42 PM |
#226 |
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It's less work to believe that the earth is flat, the night sky is papier mache with pin holes |
Warren DeMontague |
Dec-30-10 02:46 PM |
#228 |
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