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Sun Mar-27-11 07:38 AM
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| 78. You are really hung up on the cheating computer thing. |
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The solution is local action to take over election boards, town halls and city councils. As long as republicans put energy and money into winning the local level and our side talks about election cheating, our side will continue to get defeated and obstructed. Please don't take this as a personal attack, you and me have clashed before. But you often write long flowery screeds that completely miss the point and are often devoid of solutions. Given our vastly opposite view on political problems and how to solve them, I am sure that I often write posts that make your head explode as you see in them complete inaneness. The conquest of republicans will come when our side (and I do feel that we ARE on the same side, even as we vastly disagree), utilize the tool of local action to re-take offices that republicans have focused on holding for the greater part of four decades. We have better citizen numbers and better, more humane societal ideas.
On a personal note. If you are reading this, I admire you for not putting a person that you vastly disagree with and likely will continue to disagree with on Ignore, that is the wrong way to handle the issue.
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| -We are entering the "you can't touch me you poor fuckers" phase of capitalism |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 10:41 AM |
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With all due respect to the founding fathers |
madokie |
Mar-26-11 10:44 AM |
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as a door nail |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 10:58 AM |
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As much as I hate to think it |
madokie |
Mar-26-11 05:50 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Mar-26-11 10:46 AM |
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Well, this strain of democracy, at any rate. The social strain of it seems to be working... |
ClassWarrior |
Mar-26-11 10:46 AM |
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And that is encouraging |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 10:50 AM |
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Which means that we have a responsibility to strongly warn them of corporatism. |
bobbolink |
Mar-26-11 02:10 PM |
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A side effect of the collapse of Communism. |
wurzel |
Mar-26-11 10:59 AM |
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RU kidding? Capitalists LOVE communism. |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-26-11 08:00 PM |
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china is communist? who knew. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-27-11 02:01 AM |
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The large pools of slave labor drew capitalists like flies to shit. |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-27-11 10:57 AM |
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China is not an example of communism. |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 09:23 AM |
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It isn't? Thats news to Mao |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-27-11 10:53 AM |
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Mao is dead and so is Chinese communism. nt |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 12:17 PM |
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Joke - whoosh. |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-27-11 07:49 PM |
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I agree completely. |
Marr |
Mar-27-11 12:25 AM |
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Bush proved it. Start war, torture, murder, loot country. Go home and enjoy retirement. |
bullimiami |
Mar-26-11 11:02 AM |
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Bush sealed it |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 11:22 AM |
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There is no lower class than Bush |
MissDeeds |
Mar-26-11 08:45 PM |
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PLUS ONE! nt |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 09:24 AM |
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"Headed"? |
sendero |
Mar-26-11 11:25 AM |
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Yes |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 11:46 AM |
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we get slapped in the face with it all the time |
notesdev |
Mar-27-11 02:11 AM |
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I think the banksters |
dotymed |
Mar-27-11 08:29 AM |
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And how are they carrying this off? |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 09:27 AM |
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I have to believe that decline |
felix_numinous |
Mar-26-11 11:44 AM |
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How is it that the GOP voting computers aren't a concern for the Democratic Party??? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-26-11 12:23 PM |
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Because they give predictable results |
Taverner |
Mar-26-11 08:38 PM |
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Yep |
kimsarah |
Mar-27-11 01:16 AM |
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You are really hung up on the cheating computer thing. |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 07:38 AM |
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She only argues with you because |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 09:36 AM |
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THAT is a damned good question. |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 09:29 AM |
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I also think that oil depletion and climate change will work for the |
jwirr |
Mar-26-11 12:48 PM |
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Great angle, and how ironic. And probably true. |
Duer 157099 |
Mar-26-11 02:14 PM |
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Then we should start organizing them . . . |
janet118 |
Mar-26-11 11:08 PM |
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Exactly. Build strong local enterprises, shut out profit only minded big companies. nt |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 07:42 AM |
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"If propaganda were interrupted. " We thought we could do that with the Internet but they caught on |
cyberpj |
Mar-26-11 05:57 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Mar-27-11 07:07 AM |
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SO TRUE |
HowHasItComeToThis |
Mar-27-11 09:01 AM |
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True, we could benefit studying South America |
felix_numinous |
Mar-27-11 03:50 PM |
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The only change is in the facade |
blindpig |
Mar-26-11 12:04 PM |
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+1000 one of best succinct replies I have read on here in my time around these regions |
stockholmer |
Mar-26-11 07:17 PM |
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You go to the head of the class. |
Scruffy1 |
Mar-26-11 08:42 PM |
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That's one crazy SOB... |
blindpig |
Mar-28-11 06:55 AM |
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this is worthy of its own thread |
Blecht |
Mar-27-11 08:07 AM |
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No the direction we're headed in is economic terrorism. |
Initech |
Mar-26-11 12:10 PM |
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A rose is a rose |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 02:07 PM |
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+1 |
MrMickeysMom |
Mar-27-11 09:38 AM |
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Truly OUTLAW government -- government by organized crime 'n organized criminals .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-26-11 12:21 PM |
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Is this our "Let them eat cake" moment? |
Zorra |
Mar-26-11 12:26 PM |
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We already had that. It was the Tyco/Enron/Adelphia era. |
Initech |
Mar-26-11 08:10 PM |
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We need to prove them wrong on that. |
Jester Messiah |
Mar-26-11 12:49 PM |
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That's |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 02:08 PM |
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huge barrier to overcome is your 2 party-dominated false paradigm, the systemic controllers just... |
stockholmer |
Mar-26-11 08:33 PM |
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+1 |
Le Taz Hot |
Mar-27-11 07:39 AM |
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Lots of charges, no solutions. Typical. |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 07:56 AM |
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Multi-Party politics would be great for America. |
dotymed |
Mar-27-11 09:35 AM |
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Multi-Party politics would be great for America |
tonybgood |
Mar-27-11 11:04 AM |
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We are being played. |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 09:40 AM |
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It may be the onlyway to restore democracy. nt |
Ilsa |
Mar-26-11 06:03 PM |
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I'm all for seeing the Fear of God put into them. |
Buns_of_Fire |
Mar-26-11 08:02 PM |
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You describe the end game for the rich. The Kochs and their like |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 08:03 AM |
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Google this phrase. Operation hammer of god. |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-26-11 08:05 PM |
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all I found-video games, Maccabees,neo-Nazi, pro-life rant, and sci-fi book about redireted asteroid |
stockholmer |
Mar-27-11 05:14 PM |
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Here's a link. |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-27-11 07:36 PM |
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I agree. Boycott their products, buy alternatives that reflect our values. |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 07:47 AM |
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Wish I knew how. n/t |
leeroysphitz |
Mar-27-11 08:15 AM |
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How? |
dotymed |
Mar-27-11 08:56 AM |
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200, not 250. |
chaska |
Mar-26-11 12:58 PM |
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1776 to 2011 |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 02:09 PM |
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Yes. |
think4yourself |
Mar-26-11 07:27 PM |
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Actually we CAN touch them. |
HughBeaumont |
Mar-26-11 01:24 PM |
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Well the right would say 2nd amendment..... |
Historic NY |
Mar-26-11 06:58 PM |
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The solution is to figure out products that people like the Kochs sell and |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 08:16 AM |
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I wish it was but today is not 20 or 30 years ago. |
TheKentuckian |
Mar-27-11 10:06 AM |
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They've always been like this. |
Starry Messenger |
Mar-26-11 01:29 PM |
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exactly |
salinen |
Mar-26-11 02:11 PM |
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As a matter of fact, yes- the Americans did indeed think they were "special." |
BeHereNow |
Mar-26-11 06:50 PM |
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You just made me think of the book "The Ugly American". That is |
jwirr |
Mar-27-11 12:16 AM |
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It's been the playbook for thousands of years. Consider these folks: |
gtar100 |
Mar-27-11 05:43 AM |
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But, whatever their means of control, the fact is |
dotymed |
Mar-27-11 10:22 AM |
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we can stand against it... |
Snoutport |
Mar-26-11 02:12 PM |
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The wrong people are behind bars too-- |
felix_numinous |
Mar-26-11 02:42 PM |
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Great post. Right on. |
DRex |
Mar-26-11 08:04 PM |
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That's just a phase? Pretty much that sums up capitalism as a whole imo. |
TBF |
Mar-26-11 02:53 PM |
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Agree. This is just the nature of the beast... |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-26-11 08:48 PM |
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But which beast? Capitalism or Democracy? It is hard to separate |
jwirr |
Mar-27-11 12:21 AM |
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Capitalism is the beast - it is an unjust system by definition. |
TBF |
Mar-27-11 07:12 AM |
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Bill Mahr described it as such: |
walldude |
Mar-26-11 03:02 PM |
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I think you're right... |
Locrian |
Mar-26-11 06:29 PM |
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K&R btw... |
BeHereNow |
Mar-26-11 07:00 PM |
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With all due respect to the OP |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-26-11 07:58 PM |
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We act like we have no power |
adigal |
Mar-26-11 08:13 PM |
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agreed, this is such an important part |
Sevenfold |
Mar-26-11 10:40 PM |
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I fear it's too late for all that |
ArcticFox |
Mar-27-11 01:58 AM |
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They don't quite own everything yet..... |
fasttense |
Mar-27-11 05:31 AM |
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Cooperatism instead of Corporatism, Localism instead of Globalism = How to be US instead of THEM. |
Kip Humphrey |
Mar-27-11 07:47 AM |
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K&R to 107 |
StarsInHerHair |
Mar-26-11 08:56 PM |
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"entering?" LOL |
liberation |
Mar-26-11 08:56 PM |
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People who were in the middle of the pyramid |
MedleyMisty |
Mar-26-11 09:23 PM |
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Exactly. |
liberation |
Mar-27-11 01:15 AM |
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You are absolutely right; in fact we are already there in my humble opinion. |
joentokyo |
Mar-26-11 09:17 PM |
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I just finished watching "Inside Job". As if I don't have enough to be angry about... |
truth2power |
Mar-26-11 11:09 PM |
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There will be no more |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 09:54 AM |
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Don't worry. In December of next year, 2012, the world will end. That'll teach'em. |
Kablooie |
Mar-26-11 11:23 PM |
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It is kinda my "Plan B"... |
Riley18 |
Mar-27-11 07:36 AM |
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Look, we've been through robber barons and worse. We will put them in their place, again. |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-27-11 12:43 AM |
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these systemic controllers ARE the same Robber Baron families, along w/ their global banking masters |
stockholmer |
Mar-27-11 05:32 PM |
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A few bullets fired high in the air will bring any man down to earth. |
tcaudilllg |
Mar-27-11 01:14 AM |
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I throughly enjoyed reading this thread |
proud patriot |
Mar-27-11 04:05 AM |
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I doubt it. But if we have entered that phase, it is the end game for the rich, |
bluestate10 |
Mar-27-11 07:18 AM |
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Very well said. Nt |
Chalco |
Mar-27-11 07:40 AM |
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A "bagger" sent me a vid comparing them with rebels in the Revolutionary |
brewens |
Mar-27-11 07:58 AM |
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IMO, that is not the direction we are headed, |
dotymed |
Mar-27-11 08:18 AM |
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Fascism is here today, the barbarians OWN the gates! |
workinclasszero |
Mar-27-11 09:01 AM |
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The main problem for us, |
Enthusiast |
Mar-27-11 09:22 AM |
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Economic Royalists |
Canuckistanian |
Mar-27-11 09:28 AM |
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WOW |
IGoToDU |
Mar-27-11 09:36 AM |
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There are more of us than there are than them. |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Mar-27-11 09:42 AM |
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Yep... K & R !!! |
WillyT |
Mar-27-11 10:13 AM |
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What is taking place is as old as Democracy. |
olegramps |
Mar-27-11 10:23 AM |
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Next Phase Guillotine Time |
TNLib |
Mar-27-11 12:47 PM |
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