Reply #100: I read your posts and agree with 95%

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of what you have to say. I agree with most of your sources.

I guess though that we're on opposite sides with this one, at this point.

I've tried to stay as close to original sources as possible. I've tried to translate, or get translations of as many of them as I can. I've tried to listen only to reporters on the scene. I've tried to learn the power interests of those who claim to be at the top, or in the lead of the liberation. I can only say that for that admittedly select set, the message is consistent: it is a liberation.

I don't know what US media is saying about it. I don't know which self-interested US politicians have sought to insinuate themselves or manipulate opinion, because I just haven't had the time. I probably wouldn't be surprised if I did know, because that's what they do, insinuate themselves and manipulate opinion.

Similarly with the neocons and the administration, who just two months ago were solidly behind Gaddafi and in pursuit of his image rehabilitation; not any real rehabilitation of his lock on power mind you, just the image. That and setting up his sovereign trust funds and security services training. Small wonder they spent three weeks spinning in circles trying to figure out who they might prey upon next. Similarly, I didn't see convincing signs that it was Obama leading the charge on this. It appeared to be lower level staff at State and the UN, plus some European nations who backed him into it.

There are a few easy predictions down the line we probably can agree on: there will be an attempt at a counter revolution, that it will not turn out as well as I hope, and that it will not turn out as badly as you fear.

But at this point, I'm sticking with the Libyan people and rough estimates that ~80-90% support the liberation. A genuine liberation, if they can keep it.