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HillbillyBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-12-10 06:41 AM
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16. I graduated from a rural WV school in 1980, the teachers wanted us
to think for ourselves. I was not a very good student, being bullied gay kid I did not want to be where others could abuse me.
So instead of being able to concentrate and learn, I was pushed around etc.
I still like learning about history, we take advantage of the various information sources our Dish TV offers, news from overseas, history, culture, etc.

I noted the anti intellectualism in about 7 grade, Foolball is important, Bball is oh so much more 'interesting' than the Revolutionary War.
We don't care what happened yesterday its almost time for pro rastling.
Like sport is so much more important than figuring out how our government does not represent us anymore or how to fix it so it does.
Yes sport has its place, but so does music, math, gammer, and respect for others.

Tv has had a large impact, but I think more it has been the soap sold by the rs that edumacation is for dummys that has trashed our middle class with greed *u 2 can be reech!@ bs.(sic)

The first election I was able to vote in was 1980.. had just turned 18 that Sept. I was pretty naive, but had heard parents and grandparents talk about politics for years and tried to pay attention (ADHD).
I knew that raygun was a fool and so were all those others that voted for a senile clown puppet..and NOTHING happened since to change my mind ( I mean looking at evidence not happy feelgood we r murikans bold and brave blather).

Our supposed exceptionalism has become a false front since WWII.
We are the invaders, poseurs, manipulators and rapist of other nations for resources. The miseducated masses have been fooled because they are self centered and narrow of focus and mindless parroting propaganda.
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  -A look at Finland's attitude toward schools and teachers. A world apart from views here. madfloridian  Dec-11-10 07:38 PM   #0 
  - Sure didn't take long for the unreccers to find this thread  Bozita   Dec-11-10 07:43 PM   #1 
  - I have noticed at least 5 already.  madfloridian   Dec-11-10 07:59 PM   #7 
     - You are known by your posts to be pro-union/teacher/worker. That in itself warrants their pox on you  Bozita   Dec-12-10 12:51 AM   #14 
     - Yes, I have noticed that.  madfloridian   Dec-12-10 12:13 PM   #19 
        - And,  chervilant   Dec-14-10 03:46 AM   #51 
     - Dupe post, self-delete (eom)  StevieM   Dec-13-10 01:46 PM   #30 
     - I tried to recommend this, but it says that you can't after it's been up for 24 hours.  StevieM   Dec-13-10 01:48 PM   #33 
  - Finnish and American society are quite different, economically, socially, culturally nt  msongs   Dec-11-10 07:45 PM   #2 
  - Point taken. However, "There are those who look at things the way they are, and ask why...  CurtEastPoint   Dec-11-10 07:49 PM   #4 
  - Thank you for posting. Excellent read.  CurtEastPoint   Dec-11-10 07:47 PM   #3 
  - Things had started to change before I retired...  madfloridian   Dec-11-10 07:55 PM   #6 
     - I graduated from a rural WV school in 1980, the teachers wanted us  HillbillyBob   Dec-12-10 06:41 AM   #16 
        - It was that way when I was in HS....longer ago than that.  madfloridian   Dec-12-10 10:49 AM   #18 
           - Not only do the football players and cheerleaders have the staus  truedelphi   Dec-13-10 04:50 PM   #46 
  - My friend teaches in a Scandinavian country  upi402   Dec-11-10 07:52 PM   #5 
  - And I agree with them. I also wonder when it happened here.  madfloridian   Dec-11-10 10:05 PM   #11 
  - the Nordic countries have`t waged war against anyone in a long time  madrchsod   Dec-11-10 08:05 PM   #8 
  - +1  proud2BlibKansan   Dec-11-10 08:12 PM   #10 
  - This reminds me of one of my favorite quotes.  Reader Rabbit   Dec-11-10 10:53 PM   #12 
  - There was an illustrated story in one of our 2nd grade reading texts.  madfloridian   Dec-13-10 01:49 PM   #34 
  - Excellent point.  madfloridian   Dec-12-10 12:41 AM   #13 
  - War starves education, but I bet education would also starve war  lostnfound   Dec-12-10 06:47 AM   #17 
  - Good point.  madfloridian   Dec-12-10 03:47 PM   #21 
  - Not exactly true, Finland sided with Nazi Germany in WW2  cowcommander   Dec-13-10 04:12 AM   #27 
  - Finland  Gaedel   Dec-13-10 05:49 AM   #28 
  - Yeah, including a thorough humiliation of the Soviet Army in the Winter War.  cemaphonic   Dec-14-10 07:54 PM   #55 
  - sweden in the early 1800`s ,finland civil war in 1918,and norway  AlbertCat   Dec-13-10 02:12 PM   #35 
  - Not quite  Monarda   Dec-13-10 03:21 PM   #39 
  - It's hard to pick on Norway in this case.  Rethuglican   Dec-14-10 07:33 PM   #54 
  - Well, there is that small matter of Finland invading Russia in 1941.  Rethuglican   Dec-14-10 07:22 PM   #53 
  - k&r  Starry Messenger   Dec-11-10 08:08 PM   #9 
  - K&R  leftstreet   Dec-12-10 12:53 AM   #15 
  - More comparison of US/Finnish schools from Darling Hammond, 2008  madfloridian   Dec-12-10 02:14 PM   #20 
  - very interesting  reggie the dog   Dec-12-10 05:16 PM   #22 
  - Race to Nowhere: The Documentary  madisongrace   Dec-12-10 05:40 PM   #23 
  - I don't see any screenings near us.  madfloridian   Dec-13-10 12:05 AM   #26 
  - Finland has a population of approximately 5.2 million. That is about the  Synicus Maximus   Dec-12-10 06:03 PM   #24 
  - They CAN be compared in attitude and respect of educators.  madfloridian   Dec-12-10 09:03 PM   #25 
  - So then aren't you saying that the large US society is actually poor?  MichiganVote   Dec-13-10 01:46 PM   #31 
  - Another example indicating that the man who campaigned is not the same as the man who in now in the  BrklynLiberal   Dec-13-10 11:37 AM   #29 
  - Meet the new president, same as the last president. And a couple before that.  MichiganVote   Dec-13-10 01:48 PM   #32 
  - Sadly, this is so very true. n/t  truedelphi   Dec-13-10 04:52 PM   #47 
  - A small, rich, ethnically pure society. That ain't the US.  cottonseed   Dec-13-10 02:18 PM   #36 
  - dupe  Jakes Progress   Dec-13-10 03:33 PM   #40 
  - A small, rich, ethnically pure society. That ain't the US.  cottonseed   Dec-13-10 02:19 PM   #37 
  - So your point would be  Jakes Progress   Dec-13-10 03:36 PM   #41 
  - And let's not forget that Finland PAYS to get those highly qualified teachers  MadHound   Dec-13-10 02:20 PM   #38 
  - With you and Darling-Hammond on these matters.  elleng   Dec-13-10 03:38 PM   #42 
  - We had many capable and knowledgeable candidates  Jakes Progress   Dec-13-10 03:42 PM   #44 
  - Kick because  Jakes Progress   Dec-13-10 03:39 PM   #43 
  - K; unfortunately too late to R  LeftishBrit   Dec-13-10 03:57 PM   #45 
  - Well worth looking at Finland's Nat'l Board of Education  suffragette   Dec-13-10 05:24 PM   #48 
  - Damn, Too Late to Rec, Sorry :(  Dinger   Dec-13-10 08:36 PM   #49 
  - There are places where education would be considered incomplete  jtuck004   Dec-14-10 12:42 AM   #50 
  - My Daughter, Myself: Our education  puebloknot   Dec-14-10 12:28 PM   #52 
  - Obama aims low, continuing the 'how low can you go' horrible game  StarsInHerHair   Dec-14-10 10:57 PM   #56 

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