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On the Road Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-23-11 01:35 PM
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30. Russia and China Have Permanent Seats on the Security Council
and thus have veto power.

There is no such thing as a measure passing with one vote against *if* the Nay vote is from Russia, China, France, the UK, or the US. If a permanent member of the Security Council wants to show some level of disapproval without killing a measure and antagonizing its sponsors, then it abstains.
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  -The consensus on intervention in Libya has shattered The Northerner  Mar-23-11 12:14 PM   #0 
  - FAIL. Russia and China never supported intervention to begin with.  ReturnoftheDjedi   Mar-23-11 12:17 PM   #1 
  - Then why didn't they vote against it? nt  TBF   Mar-23-11 12:17 PM   #2 
  - All those countries mentioned abstained in voting.  thewiseguy   Mar-23-11 12:20 PM   #7 
  - Abstaining is not voting against. nt  TBF   Mar-23-11 12:30 PM   #15 
     - Really?  thewiseguy   Mar-23-11 12:32 PM   #18 
     - No substance, as usual. nt  TBF   Mar-23-11 12:36 PM   #20 
     - Guess what, what they did yesterday doesn't stop them from changing their minds and opposing it now.  JackRiddler   Mar-23-11 02:05 PM   #37 
  - International Politics 101  Teaser   Mar-23-11 12:21 PM   #8 
  - Russia and China Have Permanent Seats on the Security Council  On the Road   Mar-23-11 01:35 PM   #30 
  - It is amazing how folks want this to fail.  thewiseguy   Mar-23-11 12:18 PM   #4 
     - Recognizing that this mission in Libya  Aerows   Mar-23-11 12:22 PM   #9 
     - I think those who beat the anti war drums want this to fail  thewiseguy   Mar-23-11 12:24 PM   #12 
        - The lives saved are the insurgents fighting against the Qaddafi government during a civil war  Taitertots   Mar-23-11 12:30 PM   #14 
           - Those insurgents are ordinary people who took arms  thewiseguy   Mar-23-11 12:33 PM   #19 
              - Exactly, armed insurgents fighting a civil war  Taitertots   Mar-23-11 12:41 PM   #27 
     - people get off on Sad Clown Failure Porn around here.  Teaser   Mar-23-11 12:22 PM   #10 
     - they are more opposed to Obama than Gaddafi. that is what's really sad.  ReturnoftheDjedi   Mar-23-11 12:24 PM   #11 
     - Because it is ALL about Obama  Aerows   Mar-23-11 12:31 PM   #17 
     - Iraq is no longer an active War. Afghanistan will follow in the next year. Where is #3?  ReturnoftheDjedi   Mar-23-11 12:37 PM   #22 
        - You don't consider us at war in Pakistan?  Aerows   Mar-23-11 12:38 PM   #23 
        - 50,000 troops in country is no longer active?  RaleighNCDUer   Mar-23-11 01:11 PM   #28 
        - Who knows how many contractors are still there, too n/t  Aerows   Mar-23-11 01:14 PM   #29 
        - Guess defining war is all in the eyes of the beholder:  sad sally   Mar-23-11 01:49 PM   #34 
     - Are you kidding me?  dkf   Mar-23-11 05:15 PM   #41 
     - It is amazing, isn't it?  bobbolink   Mar-23-11 12:24 PM   #13 
     - The failure has already happened  Taitertots   Mar-23-11 12:39 PM   #26 
  - NO! See when they do that it just ruins it. We MUST keep attacking countries until someone sends..  Poll_Blind   Mar-23-11 12:18 PM   #3 
  - Many people no longer trust their governments...  Aerows   Mar-23-11 12:19 PM   #5 
  - All of these countries were opposed and made it known prio  OHdem10   Mar-23-11 12:19 PM   #6 
  - old news  spanone   Mar-23-11 12:31 PM   #16 
  - As Security Council Members, they can recall the Council at any time. Do so. Quickly please.  Catherina   Mar-23-11 12:36 PM   #21 
  - None of the actual participants have withdrawn.  ReturnoftheDjedi   Mar-23-11 12:38 PM   #25 
  - They won't, for the obvious reasons.  Ikonoklast   Mar-23-11 01:39 PM   #31 
  - They can recall the SC, but remember that the USA, the UK and France have veto power.  totodeinhere   Mar-23-11 01:49 PM   #33 
  - Unrec for constant flow of negative OPs about Democrats  Kingofalldems   Mar-23-11 12:38 PM   #24 
  - I don't see anything wrong with negative OP's about Democrats when they deserve it.  totodeinhere   Mar-23-11 01:52 PM   #36 
  - Two words: Constant flow  Kingofalldems   Mar-23-11 03:25 PM   #38 
     - All deserved.  eomer   Mar-23-11 05:53 PM   #42 
  - The Guardian UK article is about "Democrats"?  chill_wind   Mar-23-11 05:07 PM   #40 
  - that was quick... nt  GSLevel9   Mar-23-11 01:45 PM   #32 
  - They must be busy reading DU. (snark)  Amonester   Mar-23-11 01:50 PM   #35 
  - Shame on the Guardian UK for reporting events and reality.  chill_wind   Mar-23-11 04:30 PM   #39 
  - Well, that's great. Before the war, either China or Russia could have stopped it.  SolutionisSolidarity   Mar-23-11 08:14 PM   #43 
 

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