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Duende azul Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-22-11 05:05 PM
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45. They may be ugly, but as soon as we find better ways, they are demounted, that's all .
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  -Why wouldn't you build wind turbines instead of nuclear plants? Stinky The Clown  Mar-22-11 03:23 PM   #0 
  - Because HIPPIES like wind turbines, and the 60's are over, and  hedgehog   Mar-22-11 03:25 PM   #1 
  - Dirty F*ckin' Hippy fantasy land!  grahamhgreen   Mar-22-11 03:37 PM   #11 
  - BUT BUT BUT where are the billion$ in profits for the Corporations?  Vincardog   Mar-22-11 03:25 PM   #2 
  - Well, they'd own the wind farms...  Deep13   Mar-22-11 03:29 PM   #3 
  - Wind turbines cost, on average, about $1.75M per megawatt  Stinky The Clown   Mar-22-11 03:32 PM   #5 
     - Wind power is anarchy.  Atman   Mar-22-11 03:38 PM   #14 
     - Hmm. Sounds good. nt  Deep13   Mar-22-11 03:39 PM   #16 
     - I wouldn't mind these around my community at all:  CrispyQ   Mar-22-11 03:56 PM   #27 
     - "The 1.2 kW Windspire is available now for around USD$5,000 installed"...1/3 to 1/2 energy needs  grahamhgreen   Mar-22-11 07:18 PM   #60 
     - Very few places have the wind to power a wind turbine. Have you  doc03   Mar-22-11 04:21 PM   #35 
     - Out here on the plains of CO  Autumn   Mar-22-11 04:33 PM   #37 
        - I saw one of those wind farms last fall on a trip through  doc03   Mar-22-11 05:12 PM   #48 
           - WE must have quieter ones here in Iowa. We have several hundred in 2 miles of our house and have no  Vincardog   Mar-23-11 02:14 PM   #64 
     - Those gigantic windfarms have some big money in them.  damntexdem   Mar-22-11 04:37 PM   #38 
  - Who do you think owns wind farms? Mom & Pops?  Statistical   Mar-22-11 04:39 PM   #40 
     - How naive do you think people are? Moms & Pops can pool money.  Duende azul   Mar-22-11 05:19 PM   #50 
     - Mom and pops could pool together and buy a natural gas turbine too.  Statistical   Mar-22-11 05:21 PM   # 
     - In our neighborhood the utility owns the the windmills they pay rent for the land it takes up.  Vincardog   Mar-23-11 02:16 PM   #65 
  - You need to put them where the wind blows consistently -- siting is a huge issue.  phantom power   Mar-22-11 03:31 PM   #4 
  - As but one example: Offshore on the coasts or on the Great Lakes  Stinky The Clown   Mar-22-11 03:38 PM   #12 
  - +1000  Atman   Mar-22-11 03:40 PM   #18 
  - They may be ugly, but as soon as we find better ways, they are demounted, that's all .  Duende azul   Mar-22-11 05:05 PM   #45 
  - Yes, and far less likely to dump crude oil on the  MineralMan   Mar-22-11 06:48 PM   #58 
  - We can ring Washington with them, it's pretty constant there!  grahamhgreen   Mar-22-11 03:38 PM   #15 
  - But wouldn't the air be too hot?  Carni   Mar-22-11 03:41 PM   #20 
  - Only if they're mounted to a Republican's ass.  Atman   Mar-22-11 03:44 PM   #23 
  - I moved from Michigan to San Angelo, TX and the most beautiful sight on the trip  MelissaB   Mar-22-11 03:56 PM   #28 
  - Why don't American homeowners have the option ...  Scuba   Mar-22-11 03:58 PM   #29 
     - They aren't "giant monsters" -- but they aren't free either.  phantom power   Mar-22-11 04:15 PM   #32 
     - The effectiveness of wind power rises with height of the turbine.  Statistical   Mar-22-11 04:42 PM   #41 
  - Communal power? Bad! Forever free fuel? Bad! Small, individualized power sources? Bad!  Raster   Mar-22-11 03:32 PM   #6 
  - They are building Wind Turbines, ----The Big Problem is we have  OHdem10   Mar-22-11 03:32 PM   #7 
  - Wind turbines, geothermal, wave power, solar power, conservation - it's not about  hedgehog   Mar-22-11 03:36 PM   #10 
  - You're correct  Stinky The Clown   Mar-22-11 03:41 PM   #21 
  - Build them...the wind and power will come! Field of Dreams...  in_cog_ni_to   Mar-22-11 03:45 PM   #24 
  - Are you saying it would work in a very small country? Maybe Liechtenstein?  ret5hd   Mar-22-11 04:16 PM   #33 
  - Wind can knock you on your ass, one nuclear accident can ruin your whole half-life.  Pathwalker   Mar-22-11 03:34 PM   #8 
  - Because they're ugly, and expensive, and Al Gore likes them.  Warren DeMontague   Mar-22-11 03:36 PM   #9 
  - Frankly, it is because nothing produces a lot of intense, localized energy...  Deep13   Mar-22-11 03:38 PM   #13 
  - You've got that right!  Tesha   Mar-22-11 05:10 PM   #46 
  - I have asked this like a gazillion times  Carni   Mar-22-11 03:40 PM   #17 
  - no one can own the wind.  spanone   Mar-22-11 03:41 PM   #19 
  - Bingo. Precisely. (NT)  Tesha   Mar-22-11 05:11 PM   #47 
  - I couldn't agree more.  in_cog_ni_to   Mar-22-11 03:43 PM   #22 
  - Too efficient, and therefore very difficult to justify overpricing the service. nt  NorthCarolina   Mar-22-11 03:49 PM   #25 
  - What do you think wind power should cost?  badtoworse   Mar-22-11 05:15 PM   #49 
     - No idea,  NorthCarolina   Mar-22-11 05:38 PM   #53 
  - The NIMBY thing has legs  GKirk   Mar-22-11 03:52 PM   #26 
  - Go vertical!  CrispyQ   Mar-22-11 03:59 PM   #31 
     - Are they less noisy?  GKirk   Mar-22-11 06:08 PM   #55 
  - Why not, indeed?  MineralMan   Mar-22-11 03:58 PM   #30 
  - Do you have issues with the people opposed to nuclear power generation?  Duende azul   Mar-22-11 04:57 PM   #44 
     - Nope. No issues at all. In fact, I've been an activist against  MineralMan   Mar-22-11 06:47 PM   #56 
  - It's not nearly as simple as you are making it out to be  badtoworse   Mar-22-11 04:18 PM   #34 
  - +1  doc03   Mar-22-11 04:27 PM   #36 
  - Why thanks for contributing to this thread  Stinky The Clown   Mar-22-11 04:57 PM   #43 
  - Thank you for the injection of reality  XemaSab   Mar-22-11 05:21 PM   #51 
  - Boo reality.  Statistical   Mar-22-11 05:28 PM   #52 
  - Ah, the whole list of the usual talking points.  Duende azul   Mar-22-11 05:50 PM   #54 
     - How about detailing where I have it wrong and why.  badtoworse   Mar-22-11 09:26 PM   #63 
        - Kick. I'd like to see a reply to this post...nt  SidDithers   Mar-23-11 02:18 PM   #66 
  - They're here  marions ghost   Mar-22-11 04:38 PM   #39 
  - If only we had had a president who promised hundreds of billions for green infrastructure  WatsonT   Mar-22-11 04:46 PM   #42 
  - As the Energy Corporations would say:  joeunderdog   Mar-22-11 06:48 PM   #57 
  - There's only one reason not to do it:: IT COSTS TOO DAMN MUCH  robcon   Mar-22-11 06:49 PM   #59 
     - I agree, that is THE BIG LIE, the nuke-nuts would have you believe! (DOE Chart)  grahamhgreen   Mar-22-11 07:22 PM   #61 
        - Surprised that the Fixed O&M on Solar Thermal is so high at &46.60/MWh...  NYC_SKP   Mar-22-11 09:03 PM   #62 
 

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