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Wed Mar-23-11 05:58 AM
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| 43. There is far too much militarism |
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and ultra nationalism in this fucking country. Add in the Jebus factor and the corporate factor and it is clear that we are on the path to world conflict.
Is there a chance that American fascists can control the greatest military apparatus in world history and chose not to use it for world domination? I don't think so. These people are as loony as any WWII Nazi.
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| -Sometimes I think my German friends were right |
Taverner |
Mar-22-11 01:51 PM |
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Agreed. |
FiveGoodMen |
Mar-22-11 01:52 PM |
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We create the terrorists that we then have to fight |
Angry Dragon |
Mar-22-11 01:55 PM |
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A very profitable one. |
CrossChris |
Mar-22-11 02:04 PM |
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Sure does keep the money flowing, though. nt |
DCKit |
Mar-22-11 02:04 PM |
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How true... |
sad sally |
Mar-23-11 01:34 PM |
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That is the very point |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 06:01 AM |
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Amen |
Ricochet21 |
Mar-23-11 12:36 PM |
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No doubt-- we have sick people running this country |
spooked911 |
Mar-22-11 01:58 PM |
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Rec'd n/t |
Catherina |
Mar-22-11 02:00 PM |
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Empire for the Few, the Proud, the Have-More Elite Sonsuvbitches. |
Octafish |
Mar-22-11 02:03 PM |
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Psst. And it's not our empire. |
Solomon |
Mar-23-11 07:36 AM |
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I was born during Viet Nam and I think it's safe to say that |
alsame |
Mar-22-11 02:04 PM |
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Yep - even during Carter we fought in El Salvador |
Taverner |
Mar-22-11 02:09 PM |
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Um, yeah... |
a la izquierda |
Mar-22-11 02:34 PM |
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Pretty much |
Taverner |
Mar-22-11 02:35 PM |
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Carter gave us -- er, I mean -- the Soviets, Afghanistan and the Mujahedin. |
Octafish |
Mar-22-11 03:38 PM |
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I suspect that these war decisions... |
CoffeeCat |
Mar-23-11 11:10 AM |
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I was born during WWII and I can safely say the same thing if we |
jwirr |
Mar-23-11 12:04 PM |
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We are a war-mongering country |
hifiguy |
Mar-22-11 02:07 PM |
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We've had a war going on consistently since Bunker Hill was attacked |
KamaAina |
Mar-22-11 02:13 PM |
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Very Good Point |
Taverner |
Mar-22-11 02:22 PM |
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Amen. I was just reading about the decades of the "Indian Wars" following the Civil War |
anneboleyn |
Mar-23-11 04:50 PM |
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Always seems to be a "reason" to intervene. Always seems to be in a strategic or oil rich location. |
DirkGently |
Mar-22-11 02:16 PM |
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yeah, an Italian friend told me: |
mimitabby |
Mar-22-11 02:21 PM |
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Wargasm is addicting... |
Dappleganger |
Mar-22-11 02:23 PM |
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Have you read John Perkins' "Confessions of an Economic Hit Man?" |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-22-11 02:25 PM |
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+1000,and this is international in scope,the USA,run by the banksters,plays the role of enforcer |
stockholmer |
Mar-23-11 06:37 AM |
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After Perkins, Klein's Shock Doctrine. |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-23-11 10:07 AM |
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I thought I was the only one who read it. |
russspeakeasy |
Mar-23-11 10:27 AM |
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I think it was a best-seller (NYT) |
me b zola |
Mar-23-11 12:56 PM |
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"And if there is one thing the USA is known for, its our war. " |
Vinnie From Indy |
Mar-22-11 02:25 PM |
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"the IDEA of individual liberty and a nation ruled by laws not men." seriously... |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-22-11 02:28 PM |
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Check out the Wiki page I've linked below |
intaglio |
Mar-23-11 05:15 AM |
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One of those is the IDEA of individual liberty and a nation ruled by laws not men. |
AlbertCat |
Mar-23-11 10:52 AM |
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More recently: the idea of equal rights |
JDPriestly |
Mar-23-11 12:34 PM |
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Starting wars IS a major definition of your nation |
LiberalLovinLug |
Mar-23-11 01:46 PM |
#127 |
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Not Hyperbolic Nonsense |
havbrush |
Mar-23-11 01:52 PM |
#129 |
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Only the USA is capable of Ideas.. |
2banon |
Mar-24-11 02:43 PM |
#147 |
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The facts don't lie...we can make history lie, but the facts..... |
Desertrose |
Mar-22-11 02:27 PM |
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You discern no differences at all in the current situation? |
bobbolink |
Mar-23-11 09:47 AM |
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not yet.. |
2banon |
Mar-24-11 02:49 PM |
#148 |
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It makes me sad. Always money for killing people, never money for improvement. |
HughBeaumont |
Mar-22-11 02:28 PM |
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The MIC grew us into an Empire |
felix_numinous |
Mar-22-11 02:31 PM |
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Oh yes, this empire will end, but it won't be pretty. |
Quantess |
Mar-23-11 12:47 AM |
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No doubt about it... |
ljm2002 |
Mar-22-11 02:37 PM |
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There are many that say |
BobbyBoring |
Mar-22-11 02:50 PM |
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War Profiteers! |
AnotherDreamWeaver |
Mar-23-11 12:49 AM |
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Remember what happened to Paul. |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-23-11 12:15 PM |
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Not to change the subject but |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 06:08 AM |
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BobbyBoring, GWB told one of the South American leaders that the way to |
JDPriestly |
Mar-23-11 12:44 PM |
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I can not for the life of me understand anyone that can't see the faults of their home |
mrcheerful |
Mar-22-11 02:55 PM |
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Everyone forgets the Flying Tigers. |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 06:18 AM |
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A country founded on a LIE..... |
DeSwiss |
Mar-22-11 03:00 PM |
#26 |
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Yep! |
Little Star |
Mar-22-11 03:00 PM |
#27 |
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Sometimes? n/t |
hootinholler |
Mar-22-11 03:07 PM |
#28 |
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Somebody had to step in |
JackintheGreen |
Mar-22-11 03:10 PM |
#29 |
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FTR It did include that |
Taverner |
Mar-22-11 03:41 PM |
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Then I cheerfully accept their gentle rebuke. n/t |
JackintheGreen |
Mar-22-11 03:51 PM |
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Even though it is true? |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 06:19 AM |
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You clearly didn't read my response |
JackintheGreen |
Mar-23-11 09:37 AM |
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ohh puhleeze.. |
2banon |
Mar-24-11 03:03 PM |
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That is sadly true. It can be changed in numerous ways but unfortunately it'll |
StarburstClock |
Mar-22-11 03:36 PM |
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Corruption is the main factor. |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 06:22 AM |
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K'ing & R' ing a must read OP |
Mimosa |
Mar-22-11 03:42 PM |
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that just goes to show ya |
Motown_Johnny |
Mar-22-11 03:44 PM |
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Yup. We are dayum good at those two things. |
AllyCat |
Mar-23-11 12:26 AM |
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Since there have only been 200,000 Peace Corps members/volunteers since 1961, you are a member of a |
apocalypsehow |
Mar-23-11 01:10 AM |
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Have a look at this Wiki page |
intaglio |
Mar-23-11 05:02 AM |
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Wow, what a list. |
tclambert |
Mar-23-11 06:27 AM |
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thanks for that link |
LittleGirl |
Mar-23-11 06:57 AM |
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It's the sad truth |
malaise |
Mar-23-11 05:19 AM |
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There is far too much militarism |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 05:58 AM |
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We don't kill indiscriminately. |
Confusious |
Mar-23-11 06:02 AM |
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True. |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 06:27 AM |
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Well, to be honest.... |
Confusious |
Mar-23-11 06:36 AM |
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Yep. How dare those brown people be sitting on OUR oil |
hifiguy |
Mar-23-11 09:27 AM |
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Exactly |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 10:30 AM |
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Sad but true |
onlyadream |
Mar-23-11 06:21 AM |
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We don't just deny, we tout our humaneness and generosity |
lunatica |
Mar-23-11 06:24 AM |
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Yes. It is actually hard to believe. |
Enthusiast |
Mar-23-11 06:31 AM |
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This is why non-violent protest can work so well. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Mar-23-11 09:18 AM |
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War is the Health of the State.........Randolph Bourne |
stockholmer |
Mar-23-11 06:31 AM |
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But when we make war, we don't hurt anybody or break anything. |
tclambert |
Mar-23-11 06:34 AM |
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We are. n/t |
hulka38 |
Mar-23-11 06:37 AM |
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I'm fairly new to DU and it's people like you that keep me here. nt |
Modern_Matthew |
Mar-23-11 06:38 AM |
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Manifest Destiny |
Citizen Worker |
Mar-23-11 06:59 AM |
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Remember Ho Chi Minh? |
The Wizard |
Mar-23-11 08:02 AM |
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Ho begged the US for help to get the French out of Vietnam |
hifiguy |
Mar-23-11 09:36 AM |
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He begged Wilson, not FDR or Truman, for help. |
ieoeja |
Mar-23-11 10:05 AM |
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I just read McCulloch's Truman bio |
hifiguy |
Mar-23-11 10:42 AM |
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Yes, he did. I stopped reading when I got to the Wilson request. |
ieoeja |
Mar-23-11 11:03 AM |
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Ho wanted to be a US ally |
The Wizard |
Mar-23-11 03:53 PM |
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HoChi Minh |
havbrush |
Mar-24-11 02:29 PM |
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Yes, this is a sad, sad truth. |
avaistheone1 |
Mar-23-11 08:12 AM |
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Predatory states tend to be. We have a perpetual war time economy. |
mmonk |
Mar-23-11 08:15 AM |
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Until people are punished for this at the ballot box it will continue. |
harun |
Mar-23-11 08:21 AM |
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Really? |
tavalon |
Mar-23-11 08:32 AM |
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We are no longer a Democracy, not even close. |
harun |
Mar-23-11 09:24 AM |
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Oh, we were involved in things before WWII... |
Javaman |
Mar-23-11 08:53 AM |
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Good post |
davidthegnome |
Mar-23-11 09:10 AM |
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Try teaching American history to children without feeling like it's war to war to war to war... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Mar-23-11 09:17 AM |
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Don't forget the drug war! it's a war "waged on their own people" too. Time for us to bomb ourselves |
Gravel Democrat |
Mar-23-11 10:08 AM |
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I've Been Getting Bombed In The Drug War For Years n/t |
Forrest Greene |
Mar-23-11 11:01 AM |
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And the war on "terrorism" which define as: We know it when we see it. |
JDPriestly |
Mar-23-11 12:48 PM |
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Indeed. Today I was explaining LBJ's two wars. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Mar-23-11 01:24 PM |
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The people of America don't control the govt and haven't for a long time. |
baldguy |
Mar-23-11 09:33 AM |
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A lot of Americans require an outside view |
Swampguana |
Mar-23-11 09:42 AM |
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Good point. Can't argue with that. |
mochajava666 |
Mar-23-11 09:43 AM |
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The US does seem to enjoy war. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Mar-23-11 09:48 AM |
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"And if there is one thing the USA is known for, its our war. " |
Bragi |
Mar-23-11 10:00 AM |
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I had the same awakening. |
The Backlash Cometh |
Mar-23-11 10:00 AM |
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American exceptionalism-- |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-23-11 10:09 AM |
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sometimes I think Joseph Perkins was right |
hfojvt |
Mar-23-11 10:34 AM |
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hfpjvt. I think my country is basically good. |
JDPriestly |
Mar-23-11 12:52 PM |
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I think Americans are basically good. It's America I have issues with. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Mar-23-11 01:25 PM |
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yep |
barbtries |
Mar-23-11 10:42 AM |
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America IS a war-monger country. |
AlbertCat |
Mar-23-11 10:45 AM |
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One Small Thing That Helps |
Forrest Greene |
Mar-23-11 10:46 AM |
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goes waaaaay back... |
Locrian |
Mar-23-11 10:54 AM |
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so, the Germans were calling us warmongers? that's rich. |
ReturnoftheDjedi |
Mar-23-11 11:06 AM |
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Why? |
Bragi |
Mar-23-11 11:08 AM |
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This American is calling Amerika: War Monger - Deal with That! |
2banon |
Mar-24-11 03:11 PM |
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If any other country attacked as many countries as we have |
Curtis |
Mar-23-11 11:07 AM |
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Ever since the Vietnam War, the way that militarism is considered "patriotic" |
Lydia Leftcoast |
Mar-23-11 11:17 AM |
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If we were a warmongering nation would we have a nobel laureate as president? |
WatsonT |
Mar-23-11 11:20 AM |
#104 |
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Rec |
RMBEBBP |
Mar-23-11 11:20 AM |
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And another one..... |
femrap |
Mar-23-11 11:24 AM |
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We send all of our old weapons out into the world |
raouldukelives |
Mar-23-11 11:29 AM |
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I'm tired of it being called Defense. |
obxhead |
Mar-23-11 11:30 AM |
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The British War Museum was an eye opener for me |
Snoutport |
Mar-23-11 11:32 AM |
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I was hoping that with President Obama in office all of this would change. |
Xenotime |
Mar-23-11 11:32 AM |
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Mar-23-11 01:43 PM |
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Germans calling another country |
liberalhistorian |
Mar-23-11 12:06 PM |
#112 |
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Chutzpah =/= "Full of Shit" |
demwing |
Mar-23-11 12:11 PM |
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Bout time you came around to the truth. Not happy that |
OwnedByFerrets |
Mar-23-11 12:07 PM |
#113 |
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Well I grew up during the western TV craze and by my teens I realized that it |
mrcheerful |
Mar-23-11 12:30 PM |
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Had I know the facts about "Columbus" when in high school, |
OwnedByFerrets |
Mar-24-11 06:17 PM |
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Yeah should have seen my history teachers face when I pointed out the fact that ole Chris not only |
mrcheerful |
Mar-24-11 06:29 PM |
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Those are just fun facts. Once you learn that good ole Chris |
OwnedByFerrets |
Mar-25-11 06:20 PM |
#153 |
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Germans calling anyone a war monger causes me to giggle. |
deaniac21 |
Mar-23-11 01:52 PM |
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Me too. Since 1945 they have become very circumspect, but not before. For centuries |
anneboleyn |
Mar-23-11 04:57 PM |
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Not particularly so |
WatsonT |
Mar-24-11 09:17 AM |
#145 |
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Call it at "empire" for that IS what it is. |
RedCloud |
Mar-23-11 01:56 PM |
#130 |
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Seems to me the Germans know something about the outcome of war mongering. |
CTyankee |
Mar-23-11 03:57 PM |
#132 |
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The irony is that they didn't learn it after WWI. |
anneboleyn |
Mar-23-11 04:58 PM |
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Well, that was a different war. WW I was fought over colonial territories. |
CTyankee |
Mar-23-11 06:37 PM |
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The harsh terms of their surrender explain that /nt |
Bragi |
Mar-24-11 07:41 AM |
#143 |
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I wonder what happens when we run out of countries that have bad guys as leaders |
TNLib |
Mar-23-11 04:33 PM |
#133 |
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This is a good question. But I don't think we need to fear any dictator of a country without oil |
CTyankee |
Mar-23-11 06:38 PM |
#141 |
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Soo Next time your German friends talk about how America is a war monger |
DFab420 |
Mar-23-11 04:42 PM |
#134 |
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Not to mention the Germanic tribes vs. the Roman Empire |
anneboleyn |
Mar-23-11 05:00 PM |
#139 |
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I don't automatically assume that the Germans "forgot" anything. I think they learned a brutal |
CTyankee |
Mar-24-11 07:39 AM |
#142 |
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It is because war makes certain people really rich... |
YellowRubberDuckie |
Mar-23-11 04:57 PM |
#136 |
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Secret societies role in cultural imperialism? |
Mosaic |
Mar-24-11 08:49 AM |
#144 |
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