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Mon Mar-21-11 11:07 PM
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| 112. Some of them are well-meaning in their efforts |
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They're not just doing it because it's their "destiny;" they're doing it because they genuinely believe the ridiculous stuff they've been told since they were babies. My aunt's one of these people. She just wants to help people, and sometimes that means helping the body (e.g. feeding homeless people) and other times it means helping souls. What a lot of us atheists forget sometimes is that some (I don't believe most) of these people actually believe that shit. Hell is a real danger in their minds, and a bigger one than anything on planet Earth.
But everything else you wrote? About the propping and the insecurity and patriarchy and all that? I wholeheartedly agree.
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| -Do we have the right to freedom from religion? |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:14 PM |
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Once people stop fighting over religions we could be on a path to world peace |
Motown_Johnny |
Mar-21-11 12:17 PM |
#1 |
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Which is wrong imo |
speltwon |
Mar-21-11 12:45 PM |
#15 |
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I know governments have lots of reasons to go to war, not just religion |
Motown_Johnny |
Mar-21-11 12:56 PM |
#29 |
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I revert to the South Park episode "Go God Go" |
speltwon |
Mar-21-11 01:06 PM |
#42 |
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The problem with that episode, and that mindset that "everyone does it", |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 12:43 AM |
#120 |
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A very fair %age of them are quite clear in claiming they |
speltwon |
Mar-22-11 12:50 AM |
#122 |
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Oh boy. |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:00 AM |
#125 |
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Oh boy back at ya |
speltwon |
Mar-22-11 01:17 AM |
#131 |
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I swear, sometimes I feel like DU is stuck in an infinite loop. |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:24 AM |
#133 |
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I have the rigor |
speltwon |
Mar-22-11 01:36 AM |
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Sure you do. |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:41 AM |
#140 |
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One of the creaters |
JonLP24 |
Mar-23-11 04:41 PM |
#172 |
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Govt's only go to war for resources. Every war ever fought was over resources, they just clothe.... |
ElsewheresDaughter |
Mar-21-11 02:52 PM |
#78 |
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My thoughts exactly. n/t |
buzzard |
Mar-21-11 11:40 PM |
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If everyone converted to one world religion, wouldn't we then have peace? |
LAGC |
Mar-21-11 06:53 PM |
#96 |
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Tell that to the Christians. |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 12:48 AM |
#121 |
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I like to tell those people that yes, I do believe their god exists, but |
NYC Liberal |
Mar-21-11 12:19 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-21-11 10:03 PM |
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Yep, if a liberal supports Obama well they just must not be a liberal! |
NYC Liberal |
Mar-21-11 10:16 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Mar-21-11 10:28 PM |
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Well at least we know |
slay |
Mar-22-11 01:30 AM |
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I Just Tell these Assholes |
Coyote_Bandit |
Mar-21-11 12:21 PM |
#3 |
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I've had them come to the door before but never had them call. I was not prepared. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:48 PM |
#18 |
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One phone call = Harrassment? |
Rebubula |
Mar-21-11 12:26 PM |
#4 |
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Our car has been in and out of the shop and I have a relative on the edge . Those |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:50 PM |
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Yup |
nichomachus |
Mar-21-11 02:29 PM |
#71 |
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Well... you could try the pig route and ask her to listen |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-21-11 02:44 PM |
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Does anyone know if this qualifies as a sales call... |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-21-11 02:45 PM |
#74 |
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Non-profit group exemption to the DNC registry... |
brooklynite |
Mar-21-11 02:47 PM |
#75 |
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Well shucks. I guess I'll just have to mess with thier heads then... |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-21-11 03:29 PM |
#83 |
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You are free to worship as you choose, free from interference... |
Ozymanithrax |
Mar-21-11 12:27 PM |
#5 |
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"Religion is not the source of war or conflict, just another reason to fight." |
jdlh8894 |
Mar-21-11 12:32 PM |
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As I said, it was a reason to fight, but not the source of wars. |
Ozymanithrax |
Mar-21-11 12:44 PM |
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So she was allowed to harass me? I hate that. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:51 PM |
#22 |
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She isn't the government...Freedom of religion means the government... |
Ozymanithrax |
Mar-21-11 01:06 PM |
#41 |
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Could this a defense from her harassment? |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:34 PM |
#49 |
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Do-Not-Call registry does not prevent unwanted calls from non-profits. |
Ozymanithrax |
Mar-21-11 01:42 PM |
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Darn! She did want my soul ,but no money was offered.Thanks for the research. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 04:04 PM |
#87 |
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There's an interesting little button on your phone |
Recursion |
Mar-21-11 01:49 PM |
#58 |
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Okay. I get it. I will probably use it if she calls back. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 04:13 PM |
#91 |
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We have freedom of and from religion -- unfortunately not from assholes. |
damntexdem |
Mar-21-11 12:56 PM |
#30 |
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Exactly...very well put. |
Ozymanithrax |
Mar-21-11 01:07 PM |
#43 |
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I'd almost rather have a call from a religious nut than the Florida State Trooper Assn. |
Fuddnik |
Mar-21-11 11:00 PM |
#111 |
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They stopped calling when I said "Can't talk right now. Please put your request in writing.Thanks." |
Petrushka |
Mar-21-11 11:12 PM |
#114 |
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And a reason to fight would be what, exactly? |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 12:57 AM |
#124 |
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Should have just hung up right away |
el_bryanto |
Mar-21-11 12:29 PM |
#6 |
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Any call asking for personal information gets the following answer from me: |
CTyankee |
Mar-22-11 01:56 PM |
#164 |
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"My first amendment freedom from religion rights, give you the |
brewens |
Mar-21-11 12:32 PM |
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It's not "from" religion rights |
jdlh8894 |
Mar-21-11 12:43 PM |
#13 |
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Correct. It's also a restriction on govt, not people |
speltwon |
Mar-21-11 12:47 PM |
#17 |
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It's not so simple |
BillStein |
Mar-21-11 12:57 PM |
#33 |
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That may be true. |
speltwon |
Mar-21-11 01:03 PM |
#38 |
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Are the "letters" in the Constitution? As LAW? |
jdlh8894 |
Mar-21-11 01:09 PM |
#44 |
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Excellent point... but if they can be used to bolster a certain point, they'll be held as gospel. |
cherokeeprogressive |
Mar-21-11 01:33 PM |
#48 |
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No, but... |
14thColony |
Mar-21-11 06:42 PM |
#95 |
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Supplemental Information? |
jdlh8894 |
Mar-21-11 06:58 PM |
#97 |
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200 years of U.S. jurisprudence says otherwise |
14thColony |
Mar-21-11 07:41 PM |
#98 |
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I agree, but legislative history isn't controlling. |
PatentlyDemocratic |
Mar-21-11 10:48 PM |
#108 |
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I know, but my way pisses religious wack jobs off more! :) n/t |
brewens |
Mar-21-11 12:56 PM |
#31 |
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we do not have it |
stuntcat |
Mar-21-11 12:33 PM |
#9 |
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+1, n/t |
RKP5637 |
Mar-21-11 12:37 PM |
#11 |
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These people think it's their destiny to shove religion in others faces as |
RKP5637 |
Mar-21-11 12:34 PM |
#10 |
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I don't have the right to tell them not to call me? |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:52 PM |
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Of course you do. Did I mis-word something? Maybe I did ... I'll check. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Mar-21-11 01:02 PM |
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Fixed my mis-wording. Thanks! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Mar-21-11 01:04 PM |
#39 |
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Some of them are well-meaning in their efforts |
Nevernose |
Mar-21-11 11:07 PM |
#112 |
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Yep, I agree with you, some are well-meaning in their efforts. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Mar-22-11 08:06 AM |
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No. We have the right to freedom of religion |
kctim |
Mar-21-11 12:40 PM |
#12 |
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We have both |
JonLP24 |
Mar-23-11 04:58 PM |
#173 |
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Congress is prohibited from endorsing a specific religion. |
lapislzi |
Mar-21-11 12:46 PM |
#16 |
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Well said. |
jdlh8894 |
Mar-21-11 01:04 PM |
#40 |
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+1 |
Pacifist Patriot |
Mar-21-11 01:51 PM |
#60 |
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Well, even if I don't have a "right" to have freedom from religion... |
krabigirl |
Mar-21-11 12:48 PM |
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I find the answers to all my questions in the funny papers: |
JohnnyRingo |
Mar-21-11 12:50 PM |
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I love this. Thanks. I needed the lighter side. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:53 PM |
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+1000 +++ n/t |
RKP5637 |
Mar-21-11 12:57 PM |
#34 |
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I would have said "Thanks. Not interested" |
ReggieVeggie |
Mar-21-11 12:51 PM |
#23 |
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It's the question of world peace. I get so introspect. I will try next time. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:55 PM |
#28 |
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Could just hang up |
The2ndWheel |
Mar-21-11 12:53 PM |
#25 |
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Better, say "Do NOT call me again" THEN hang up |
csziggy |
Mar-21-11 01:17 PM |
#46 |
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If you wish to ask me cosmic questions... |
Dappleganger |
Mar-21-11 12:53 PM |
#26 |
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Yea. That's my problem,soulmate. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:57 PM |
#32 |
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yeah. it's called hang up the phone. duh. your delicate sensibilities |
cali |
Mar-21-11 12:58 PM |
#35 |
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opps wrong thread. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:37 PM |
#50 |
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Why should your freedom of speech interfere with my right to privacy? |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:13 AM |
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do you have a listed phone number? |
onenote |
Mar-22-11 04:19 PM |
#169 |
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I have a cell phone and no land line, but that's beside the point. |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 04:57 PM |
#170 |
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I wonder... |
BillStein |
Mar-21-11 01:01 PM |
#36 |
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I never answer the phone either for the same reasons. Caller ID is the best ever, and if |
RKP5637 |
Mar-21-11 01:43 PM |
#54 |
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No more than you have the right to freedom from speech. |
Dr. Strange |
Mar-21-11 01:16 PM |
#45 |
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Agreed. |
Shandris |
Mar-21-11 01:44 PM |
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You ever think of hanging up on her? Problem solved...then space on DU |
demosincebirth |
Mar-21-11 01:31 PM |
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+100!! |
timtom |
Mar-21-11 04:45 PM |
#94 |
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Like what? |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:08 AM |
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Yeah, any of those would be better. Maybe it didn't register in his brain...hey, why don't |
demosincebirth |
Mar-22-11 06:25 PM |
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i think we should. |
barbtries |
Mar-21-11 01:41 PM |
#51 |
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i want that! nt |
Snoutport |
Mar-21-11 01:43 PM |
#53 |
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Of course you have the "freedom" and you already know that. What you don't have is the right to |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:45 PM |
#56 |
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And where would that ridicule be, exactly? |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:16 AM |
#130 |
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No more than religious people have a right to freedom from atheism |
Recursion |
Mar-21-11 01:48 PM |
#57 |
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Yeah, those damn atheists and their proselytizing cold calls |
nichomachus |
Mar-21-11 01:51 PM |
#59 |
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It usually comes up in the context of billboards (nt) |
Recursion |
Mar-21-11 02:27 PM |
#70 |
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Well, we should ban all billboards then -- not just the ones from atheists |
nichomachus |
Mar-21-11 02:30 PM |
#72 |
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I would much rather we let people put up billboards |
Recursion |
Mar-21-11 03:11 PM |
#81 |
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Oh! .......BLEACH MY EYES!!! |
Quantess |
Mar-22-11 04:22 AM |
#146 |
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It's as silly as freaking out over a missionary cold-calling you (nt) |
Recursion |
Mar-22-11 05:36 AM |
#148 |
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I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not. |
Quantess |
Mar-22-11 05:55 AM |
#150 |
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I was talking about the OP (nt) |
Recursion |
Mar-22-11 07:13 AM |
#153 |
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Oh, that's good! |
Quantess |
Mar-22-11 07:54 AM |
#154 |
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You could just hang up. |
eShirl |
Mar-21-11 01:52 PM |
#61 |
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Only in my very bestest dreams |
OwnedByFerrets |
Mar-21-11 01:52 PM |
#62 |
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Treat your religion the same way you treat your penis |
nichomachus |
Mar-21-11 01:52 PM |
#63 |
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I love this. |
lapislzi |
Mar-21-11 02:25 PM |
#69 |
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I don't see any Christians shoving anything in my face on this board |
timtom |
Mar-21-11 02:50 PM |
#76 |
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The board tends to be anti-proselytizing-asshole. |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:19 AM |
#132 |
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Oh. I see YOU'RE an accomplished master |
timtom |
Mar-22-11 05:36 AM |
#149 |
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Good policy. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 04:07 PM |
#89 |
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that is absolutely perfect nt |
BillStein |
Mar-22-11 09:12 AM |
#156 |
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You chose not to exercise your freedom to not answer the phone |
slackmaster |
Mar-21-11 01:54 PM |
#64 |
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The telephone is a convenience for ME |
lapislzi |
Mar-21-11 03:27 PM |
#82 |
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I hear ya. Just don't pickup, if I do hang up. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-22-11 04:12 PM |
#167 |
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I am personally of the belief |
Proud Liberal Dem |
Mar-21-11 01:55 PM |
#65 |
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Watch James Spader as Alan Shore from Boston Legal make this exact same argument: |
slay |
Mar-21-11 01:57 PM |
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Gee. I enjoyed this. Thanx, slay. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 03:49 PM |
#84 |
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No prob - me too. By chance I just happened to be re-watching that episode last night |
slay |
Mar-21-11 08:09 PM |
#102 |
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I don't answer the phone if I don't recognize the number. Problem solved. nt |
Modern_Matthew |
Mar-21-11 01:59 PM |
#67 |
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No. |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-21-11 02:11 PM |
#68 |
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bullshit |
Skittles |
Mar-21-11 10:50 PM |
#109 |
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Read the Constitution |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-21-11 10:53 PM |
#110 |
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They can say whatever they want |
BillStein |
Mar-22-11 09:16 AM |
#157 |
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Calling your phone isn't saying it "in your home" |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-22-11 10:33 AM |
#159 |
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if they have the "right" |
BillStein |
Mar-22-11 11:28 AM |
#160 |
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If they didn't have the assumed "right' there would've been no need for the DNC in the first place |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-22-11 01:50 PM |
#163 |
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I'll concede this point |
BillStein |
Mar-22-11 03:28 PM |
#165 |
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No worries! |
WildEyedLiberal |
Mar-22-11 04:04 PM |
#166 |
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There's a mature, cogently argued riposte based in a clear grasp of the Constitution for you.. (nt) |
Posteritatis |
Mar-22-11 04:15 PM |
#168 |
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I think so, but the fundies don't |
Taverner |
Mar-21-11 02:51 PM |
#77 |
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For a while I would just start asking questions when they called. |
MedicalAdmin |
Mar-21-11 02:53 PM |
#79 |
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I should copy this and have it by the phone. I'm a bit embarrassed |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-22-11 01:37 PM |
#162 |
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You're always free to hang up. If you were pissed, why did you continue listening? |
badtoworse |
Mar-21-11 03:10 PM |
#80 |
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Of course not. You have freedom the government dictating religion and the freedom |
TheKentuckian |
Mar-21-11 03:55 PM |
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Yes, absolutely--in accordance with the First Amendment. |
Arkana |
Mar-21-11 03:57 PM |
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A 'cold call' by a believer is not governmental establishment of religion, but |
Obamanaut |
Mar-22-11 12:51 AM |
#123 |
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I really don't see the argument for freedom from exposure to certain ideas. |
bigmonkey |
Mar-21-11 04:05 PM |
#88 |
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You say you had a "cold call". WHY did you answer the phone? |
lynne |
Mar-21-11 04:08 PM |
#90 |
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Hang up the phone |
demwing |
Mar-21-11 04:14 PM |
#92 |
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Here's an idea |
demwing |
Mar-21-11 04:20 PM |
#93 |
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Caller ID has done wonders for me. If I don't recognize the # I don't answer. |
sarcasmo |
Mar-21-11 07:42 PM |
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We should be absolutely free from religious harassment. |
Lucian |
Mar-21-11 07:43 PM |
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I thought it was |
Texasgal |
Mar-21-11 07:45 PM |
#101 |
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"From" is implicitly required for "of" to be possible. |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:28 AM |
#134 |
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We need a freedom from hateful, violent speech as well. |
Xenotime |
Mar-21-11 10:29 PM |
#106 |
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You have the right to live in a vacuum, free from the ideas of anyone but you. |
Toucano |
Mar-21-11 10:31 PM |
#107 |
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Wow, that's kind of uncalled for. |
Quantess |
Mar-21-11 11:33 PM |
#115 |
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Excuse me? Do you seriously think you have a RIGHT to live "free" of any idea |
Toucano |
Mar-22-11 12:14 AM |
#119 |
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What, exactly, in the OP inspired those interpretations of yours? |
Quantess |
Mar-22-11 02:10 AM |
#141 |
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Yes. Also....you are too patient with solicitors. |
Quantess |
Mar-21-11 11:08 PM |
#113 |
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No, everyone must have religion. |
killbotfactory |
Mar-21-11 11:37 PM |
#116 |
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Where the puppies eat the skittles that were shat out by unicorns. |
Quantess |
Mar-22-11 02:14 AM |
#143 |
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I think |
BillStein |
Mar-22-11 09:20 AM |
#158 |
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ha! |
H2O Man |
Mar-21-11 11:38 PM |
#117 |
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somehow, after perusing this thread |
hfojvt |
Mar-22-11 01:02 AM |
#126 |
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That's when you say "hold on" & dig out your DVD of "Rocco Goes To Prague" |
Warren DeMontague |
Mar-22-11 01:10 AM |
#128 |
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Do you feel better |
darkstar3 |
Mar-22-11 01:32 AM |
#136 |
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Worked for a chain of indie Video Stores in the 90s. |
Warren DeMontague |
Mar-22-11 01:41 AM |
#139 |
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Yes. |
DeSwiss |
Mar-22-11 01:35 AM |
#137 |
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LOL, nice picture in your sig. |
LAGC |
Mar-22-11 02:13 AM |
#142 |
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Aliens like to feast on the blood of Republicans. |
Quantess |
Mar-22-11 06:10 AM |
#151 |
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Clearly, its time for non-believers to fight back! |
LAGC |
Mar-22-11 02:17 AM |
#144 |
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Deleted message |
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Mar-22-11 04:47 AM |
#147 |
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You could also do this yourself. |
Quantess |
Mar-22-11 06:46 AM |
#152 |
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Meh. |
JoeyT |
Mar-22-11 02:30 AM |
#145 |
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Join the Freedom from Religion Foundation |
undeterred |
Mar-22-11 11:31 AM |
#161 |
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Phone solicitation is a pain in the a$$ |
etherealtruth |
Mar-23-11 05:01 PM |
#174 |
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