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51. i think we should.
i tend to be less...civil than you apparently were, when someone tries to proselytize me. i refuse religious handouts, not always graciously. my sons and i had a discussion about just that this past weekend. they insisted that these people mean well. i insisted that anyone who thinks they have a line on what my soul is all about is not respecting me and therefore i feel no compunction to treat them with respect.

you're just way nicer than i am.
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  -Do we have the right to freedom from religion? The Wielding Truth  Mar-21-11 12:14 PM   #0 
  - Once people stop fighting over religions we could be on a path to world peace  Motown_Johnny   Mar-21-11 12:17 PM   #1 
  - Which is wrong imo  speltwon   Mar-21-11 12:45 PM   #15 
  - I know governments have lots of reasons to go to war, not just religion  Motown_Johnny   Mar-21-11 12:56 PM   #29 
     - I revert to the South Park episode "Go God Go"  speltwon   Mar-21-11 01:06 PM   #42 
     - The problem with that episode, and that mindset that "everyone does it",  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 12:43 AM   #120 
     - A very fair %age of them are quite clear in claiming they  speltwon   Mar-22-11 12:50 AM   #122 
        - Oh boy.  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:00 AM   #125 
           - Oh boy back at ya  speltwon   Mar-22-11 01:17 AM   #131 
              - I swear, sometimes I feel like DU is stuck in an infinite loop.  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:24 AM   #133 
                 - I have the rigor  speltwon   Mar-22-11 01:36 AM   #138 
                    - Sure you do.  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:41 AM   #140 
     - One of the creaters  JonLP24   Mar-23-11 04:41 PM   #172 
     - Govt's only go to war for resources. Every war ever fought was over resources, they just clothe....  ElsewheresDaughter   Mar-21-11 02:52 PM   #78 
        - My thoughts exactly. n/t  buzzard   Mar-21-11 11:40 PM   #118 
  - If everyone converted to one world religion, wouldn't we then have peace?  LAGC   Mar-21-11 06:53 PM   #96 
     - Tell that to the Christians.  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 12:48 AM   #121 
  - I like to tell those people that yes, I do believe their god exists, but  NYC Liberal   Mar-21-11 12:19 PM   #2 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-21-11 10:03 PM   #103 
     - Yep, if a liberal supports Obama well they just must not be a liberal!  NYC Liberal   Mar-21-11 10:16 PM   #104 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-21-11 10:28 PM   #105 
        - Well at least we know  slay   Mar-22-11 01:30 AM   #135 
  - I Just Tell these Assholes  Coyote_Bandit   Mar-21-11 12:21 PM   #3 
  - I've had them come to the door before but never had them call. I was not prepared.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 12:48 PM   #18 
  - One phone call = Harrassment?  Rebubula   Mar-21-11 12:26 PM   #4 
  - Our car has been in and out of the shop and I have a relative on the edge . Those  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 12:50 PM   #20 
  - Yup  nichomachus   Mar-21-11 02:29 PM   #71 
  - Well... you could try the pig route and ask her to listen  MedicalAdmin   Mar-21-11 02:44 PM   #73 
  - Does anyone know if this qualifies as a sales call...  MedicalAdmin   Mar-21-11 02:45 PM   #74 
     - Non-profit group exemption to the DNC registry...  brooklynite   Mar-21-11 02:47 PM   #75 
        - Well shucks. I guess I'll just have to mess with thier heads then...  MedicalAdmin   Mar-21-11 03:29 PM   #83 
  - You are free to worship as you choose, free from interference...  Ozymanithrax   Mar-21-11 12:27 PM   #5 
  - "Religion is not the source of war or conflict, just another reason to fight."  jdlh8894   Mar-21-11 12:32 PM   #7 
  - As I said, it was a reason to fight, but not the source of wars.  Ozymanithrax   Mar-21-11 12:44 PM   #14 
  - So she was allowed to harass me? I hate that.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 12:51 PM   #22 
  - She isn't the government...Freedom of religion means the government...  Ozymanithrax   Mar-21-11 01:06 PM   #41 
  - Could this a defense from her harassment?  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 01:34 PM   #49 
     - Do-Not-Call registry does not prevent unwanted calls from non-profits.  Ozymanithrax   Mar-21-11 01:42 PM   #52 
        - Darn! She did want my soul ,but no money was offered.Thanks for the research.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 04:04 PM   #87 
  - There's an interesting little button on your phone  Recursion   Mar-21-11 01:49 PM   #58 
     - Okay. I get it. I will probably use it if she calls back.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 04:13 PM   #91 
  - We have freedom of and from religion -- unfortunately not from assholes.  damntexdem   Mar-21-11 12:56 PM   #30 
  - Exactly...very well put.  Ozymanithrax   Mar-21-11 01:07 PM   #43 
  - I'd almost rather have a call from a religious nut than the Florida State Trooper Assn.  Fuddnik   Mar-21-11 11:00 PM   #111 
     - They stopped calling when I said "Can't talk right now. Please put your request in writing.Thanks."  Petrushka   Mar-21-11 11:12 PM   #114 
  - And a reason to fight would be what, exactly?  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 12:57 AM   #124 
  - Should have just hung up right away  el_bryanto   Mar-21-11 12:29 PM   #6 
  - Any call asking for personal information gets the following answer from me:  CTyankee   Mar-22-11 01:56 PM   #164 
  - "My first amendment freedom from religion rights, give you the  brewens   Mar-21-11 12:32 PM   #8 
  - It's not "from" religion rights  jdlh8894   Mar-21-11 12:43 PM   #13 
     - Correct. It's also a restriction on govt, not people  speltwon   Mar-21-11 12:47 PM   #17 
     - It's not so simple  BillStein   Mar-21-11 12:57 PM   #33 
        - That may be true.  speltwon   Mar-21-11 01:03 PM   #38 
        - Are the "letters" in the Constitution? As LAW?  jdlh8894   Mar-21-11 01:09 PM   #44 
        - Excellent point... but if they can be used to bolster a certain point, they'll be held as gospel.  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-21-11 01:33 PM   #48 
        - No, but...  14thColony   Mar-21-11 06:42 PM   #95 
           - Supplemental Information?  jdlh8894   Mar-21-11 06:58 PM   #97 
              - 200 years of U.S. jurisprudence says otherwise  14thColony   Mar-21-11 07:41 PM   #98 
        - I agree, but legislative history isn't controlling.  PatentlyDemocratic   Mar-21-11 10:48 PM   #108 
     - I know, but my way pisses religious wack jobs off more! :) n/t  brewens   Mar-21-11 12:56 PM   #31 
  - we do not have it  stuntcat   Mar-21-11 12:33 PM   #9 
  - +1, n/t  RKP5637   Mar-21-11 12:37 PM   #11 
  - These people think it's their destiny to shove religion in others faces as  RKP5637   Mar-21-11 12:34 PM   #10 
  - I don't have the right to tell them not to call me?  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 12:52 PM   #24 
  - Of course you do. Did I mis-word something? Maybe I did ... I'll check. n/t  RKP5637   Mar-21-11 01:02 PM   #37 
  - Fixed my mis-wording. Thanks! n/t  RKP5637   Mar-21-11 01:04 PM   #39 
  - Some of them are well-meaning in their efforts  Nevernose   Mar-21-11 11:07 PM   #112 
     - Yep, I agree with you, some are well-meaning in their efforts. n/t  RKP5637   Mar-22-11 08:06 AM   #155 
  - No. We have the right to freedom of religion  kctim   Mar-21-11 12:40 PM   #12 
  - We have both  JonLP24   Mar-23-11 04:58 PM   #173 
  - Congress is prohibited from endorsing a specific religion.  lapislzi   Mar-21-11 12:46 PM   #16 
  - Well said.  jdlh8894   Mar-21-11 01:04 PM   #40 
  - +1  Pacifist Patriot   Mar-21-11 01:51 PM   #60 
  - Well, even if I don't have a "right" to have freedom from religion...  krabigirl   Mar-21-11 12:48 PM   #19 
  - I find the answers to all my questions in the funny papers:  JohnnyRingo   Mar-21-11 12:50 PM   #21 
  - I love this. Thanks. I needed the lighter side.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 12:53 PM   #27 
  - +1000 +++ n/t  RKP5637   Mar-21-11 12:57 PM   #34 
  - I would have said "Thanks. Not interested"  ReggieVeggie   Mar-21-11 12:51 PM   #23 
  - It's the question of world peace. I get so introspect. I will try next time.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 12:55 PM   #28 
  - Could just hang up  The2ndWheel   Mar-21-11 12:53 PM   #25 
  - Better, say "Do NOT call me again" THEN hang up  csziggy   Mar-21-11 01:17 PM   #46 
  - If you wish to ask me cosmic questions...  Dappleganger   Mar-21-11 12:53 PM   #26 
  - Yea. That's my problem,soulmate.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 12:57 PM   #32 
  - yeah. it's called hang up the phone. duh. your delicate sensibilities  cali   Mar-21-11 12:58 PM   #35 
  - opps wrong thread.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 01:37 PM   #50 
  - Why should your freedom of speech interfere with my right to privacy?  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:13 AM   #129 
     - do you have a listed phone number?  onenote   Mar-22-11 04:19 PM   #169 
        - I have a cell phone and no land line, but that's beside the point.  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 04:57 PM   #170 
  - I wonder...  BillStein   Mar-21-11 01:01 PM   #36 
  - I never answer the phone either for the same reasons. Caller ID is the best ever, and if  RKP5637   Mar-21-11 01:43 PM   #54 
  - No more than you have the right to freedom from speech.  Dr. Strange   Mar-21-11 01:16 PM   #45 
  - Agreed.  Shandris   Mar-21-11 01:44 PM   #55 
  - You ever think of hanging up on her? Problem solved...then space on DU  demosincebirth   Mar-21-11 01:31 PM   #47 
  - +100!!  timtom   Mar-21-11 04:45 PM   #94 
  - Like what?  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:08 AM   #127 
     - Yeah, any of those would be better. Maybe it didn't register in his brain...hey, why don't  demosincebirth   Mar-22-11 06:25 PM   #171 
  - i think we should.  barbtries   Mar-21-11 01:41 PM   #51 
  - i want that! nt  Snoutport   Mar-21-11 01:43 PM   #53 
  - Of course you have the "freedom" and you already know that. What you don't have is the right to  bobbolink   Mar-21-11 01:45 PM   #56 
  - And where would that ridicule be, exactly?  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:16 AM   #130 
  - No more than religious people have a right to freedom from atheism  Recursion   Mar-21-11 01:48 PM   #57 
  - Yeah, those damn atheists and their proselytizing cold calls  nichomachus   Mar-21-11 01:51 PM   #59 
     - It usually comes up in the context of billboards (nt)  Recursion   Mar-21-11 02:27 PM   #70 
        - Well, we should ban all billboards then -- not just the ones from atheists  nichomachus   Mar-21-11 02:30 PM   #72 
        - I would much rather we let people put up billboards  Recursion   Mar-21-11 03:11 PM   #81 
        - Oh! .......BLEACH MY EYES!!!  Quantess   Mar-22-11 04:22 AM   #146 
           - It's as silly as freaking out over a missionary cold-calling you (nt)  Recursion   Mar-22-11 05:36 AM   #148 
              - I can't tell if you're sarcastic or not.  Quantess   Mar-22-11 05:55 AM   #150 
                 - I was talking about the OP (nt)  Recursion   Mar-22-11 07:13 AM   #153 
                    - Oh, that's good!  Quantess   Mar-22-11 07:54 AM   #154 
  - You could just hang up.  eShirl   Mar-21-11 01:52 PM   #61 
  - Only in my very bestest dreams  OwnedByFerrets   Mar-21-11 01:52 PM   #62 
  - Treat your religion the same way you treat your penis  nichomachus   Mar-21-11 01:52 PM   #63 
  - I love this.  lapislzi   Mar-21-11 02:25 PM   #69 
  - I don't see any Christians shoving anything in my face on this board  timtom   Mar-21-11 02:50 PM   #76 
  - The board tends to be anti-proselytizing-asshole.  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:19 AM   #132 
     - Oh. I see YOU'RE an accomplished master  timtom   Mar-22-11 05:36 AM   #149 
  - Good policy.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 04:07 PM   #89 
  - that is absolutely perfect nt  BillStein   Mar-22-11 09:12 AM   #156 
  - You chose not to exercise your freedom to not answer the phone  slackmaster   Mar-21-11 01:54 PM   #64 
  - The telephone is a convenience for ME  lapislzi   Mar-21-11 03:27 PM   #82 
  - I hear ya. Just don't pickup, if I do hang up.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-22-11 04:12 PM   #167 
  - I am personally of the belief  Proud Liberal Dem   Mar-21-11 01:55 PM   #65 
  - Watch James Spader as Alan Shore from Boston Legal make this exact same argument:  slay   Mar-21-11 01:57 PM   #66 
  - Gee. I enjoyed this. Thanx, slay.  The Wielding Truth   Mar-21-11 03:49 PM   #84 
     - No prob - me too. By chance I just happened to be re-watching that episode last night  slay   Mar-21-11 08:09 PM   #102 
  - I don't answer the phone if I don't recognize the number. Problem solved. nt  Modern_Matthew   Mar-21-11 01:59 PM   #67 
  - No.  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-21-11 02:11 PM   #68 
  - bullshit  Skittles   Mar-21-11 10:50 PM   #109 
     - Read the Constitution  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-21-11 10:53 PM   #110 
     - They can say whatever they want  BillStein   Mar-22-11 09:16 AM   #157 
        - Calling your phone isn't saying it "in your home"  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-22-11 10:33 AM   #159 
           - if they have the "right"  BillStein   Mar-22-11 11:28 AM   #160 
              - If they didn't have the assumed "right' there would've been no need for the DNC in the first place  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-22-11 01:50 PM   #163 
                 - I'll concede this point  BillStein   Mar-22-11 03:28 PM   #165 
                    - No worries!  WildEyedLiberal   Mar-22-11 04:04 PM   #166 
     - There's a mature, cogently argued riposte based in a clear grasp of the Constitution for you.. (nt)  Posteritatis   Mar-22-11 04:15 PM   #168 
  - I think so, but the fundies don't  Taverner   Mar-21-11 02:51 PM   #77 
  - For a while I would just start asking questions when they called.  MedicalAdmin   Mar-21-11 02:53 PM   #79 
  - I should copy this and have it by the phone. I'm a bit embarrassed  The Wielding Truth   Mar-22-11 01:37 PM   #162 
  - You're always free to hang up. If you were pissed, why did you continue listening?  badtoworse   Mar-21-11 03:10 PM   #80 
  - Of course not. You have freedom the government dictating religion and the freedom  TheKentuckian   Mar-21-11 03:55 PM   #85 
  - Yes, absolutely--in accordance with the First Amendment.  Arkana   Mar-21-11 03:57 PM   #86 
  - A 'cold call' by a believer is not governmental establishment of religion, but  Obamanaut   Mar-22-11 12:51 AM   #123 
  - I really don't see the argument for freedom from exposure to certain ideas.  bigmonkey   Mar-21-11 04:05 PM   #88 
  - You say you had a "cold call". WHY did you answer the phone?  lynne   Mar-21-11 04:08 PM   #90 
  - Hang up the phone  demwing   Mar-21-11 04:14 PM   #92 
  - Here's an idea  demwing   Mar-21-11 04:20 PM   #93 
  - Caller ID has done wonders for me. If I don't recognize the # I don't answer.  sarcasmo   Mar-21-11 07:42 PM   #99 
  - We should be absolutely free from religious harassment.  Lucian   Mar-21-11 07:43 PM   #100 
  - I thought it was  Texasgal   Mar-21-11 07:45 PM   #101 
  - "From" is implicitly required for "of" to be possible.  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:28 AM   #134 
  - We need a freedom from hateful, violent speech as well.  Xenotime   Mar-21-11 10:29 PM   #106 
  - You have the right to live in a vacuum, free from the ideas of anyone but you.  Toucano   Mar-21-11 10:31 PM   #107 
  - Wow, that's kind of uncalled for.  Quantess   Mar-21-11 11:33 PM   #115 
     - Excuse me? Do you seriously think you have a RIGHT to live "free" of any idea  Toucano   Mar-22-11 12:14 AM   #119 
        - What, exactly, in the OP inspired those interpretations of yours?  Quantess   Mar-22-11 02:10 AM   #141 
  - Yes. are too patient with solicitors.  Quantess   Mar-21-11 11:08 PM   #113 
  - No, everyone must have religion.  killbotfactory   Mar-21-11 11:37 PM   #116 
  - Where the puppies eat the skittles that were shat out by unicorns.  Quantess   Mar-22-11 02:14 AM   #143 
  - I think  BillStein   Mar-22-11 09:20 AM   #158 
  - ha!  H2O Man   Mar-21-11 11:38 PM   #117 
  - somehow, after perusing this thread  hfojvt   Mar-22-11 01:02 AM   #126 
  - That's when you say "hold on" & dig out your DVD of "Rocco Goes To Prague"  Warren DeMontague   Mar-22-11 01:10 AM   #128 
  - Do you feel better  darkstar3   Mar-22-11 01:32 AM   #136 
     - Worked for a chain of indie Video Stores in the 90s.  Warren DeMontague   Mar-22-11 01:41 AM   #139 
  - Yes.  DeSwiss   Mar-22-11 01:35 AM   #137 
  - LOL, nice picture in your sig.  LAGC   Mar-22-11 02:13 AM   #142 
     - Aliens like to feast on the blood of Republicans.  Quantess   Mar-22-11 06:10 AM   #151 
  - Clearly, its time for non-believers to fight back!  LAGC   Mar-22-11 02:17 AM   #144 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-22-11 04:47 AM   #147 
  - You could also do this yourself.  Quantess   Mar-22-11 06:46 AM   #152 
  - Meh.  JoeyT   Mar-22-11 02:30 AM   #145 
  - Join the Freedom from Religion Foundation  undeterred   Mar-22-11 11:31 AM   #161 
  - Phone solicitation is a pain in the a$$  etherealtruth   Mar-23-11 05:01 PM   #174 

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