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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-21-11 12:26 PM
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18. Ignore the naysayers. I ran a business in Ca. It's a royal pain in the #$$
Most people who haven't owned businesses genuinely have no clue how stupid this state has become with its regulations. Apply, inspect, deny, inspect, approve, now visit the next office. It isn't TAXES, but all of the silly regulations and hoops you have to jump through to get anything done. Because NONE of the regulatory agencies coordinate with each other, even the simplest processes can take months. Like when we were informed that the toilet in our office bathroom didn't meet ADA requirements. A contractor was hired, who pulled a permit for the toilet, which triggered an inspection, which triggered a mandatory replacement of our buildings main inlet to add a meter, which then required a building water use audit, which eventually mandated that we update our exterior sprinklers, which required another permit, landscaping plans, and two more inspections. In the end, replacing a simple toilet required four months of work, permitting, and inspections, and about $15,000 worth of upgrades to the building. It's just too much.

There's another example happening right now in the Sierra foothills. Company bought a bit of land out in the middle of nowhere, far from any neighbors, and wants to open a basic rock quarry. It's in an area where it will have little environmental impact, and neither the state or private environmental agencies have any problem with it. Given that lack of opposition, and the dozens of jobs it will create, and the fact that the nearest neighbors are miles away, you'd think that a project of this sort would be encouraged, or at least wouldn't be heavily resisted. You'd be wrong on that. The county imposed more than 100 new regulations and "conditions" on them as a prerequisite to opening. Not to be outdone, two cities in a neighboring county are now on the verge of filing suits because THEY want to add regulations of their own. Even though the facility isn't in their county, the outgoing rock will be pulled on trains that run on century old rail lines through these communities. Those rails are already used often, but because the quarry may add more trains to the rails every week, they want a say in its regulation, and are pushing to have the quarry build expensive overpasses and underpasses in their communities and otherwise upgrade all of the crossings. The quarry operators have already indicated that doing so would kill the project...they're a small operation and couldn't possibly afford that sort of expense. These people just want to pull some rocks from the ground, dump them into rail cars, and send them down an existing rail line. It took two years for them to pull the permits from their OWN county to start operation, and now their county has placed the project on hold indefinitely so that neighboring counties have time to draft new regulations and figure out what goodies can be milked from them. It's stupid, and it looks like the 40-60 good paying, permanent (and possibly unionized) jobs that it was to create are going to vanish because the bureaucrats saw a new business opening, and viewed it as a chance to flex their muscles.

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  -Steven Greenhut: Carl's Jr. chewed up by California The Straight Story  Mar-21-11 06:39 AM   #0 
  - Do those managers get to take as much as they want out of the till?  rfranklin   Mar-21-11 06:44 AM   #1 
  - I love how CEOs always complain about strict health, labor, and safety rules...  JHB   Mar-21-11 06:57 AM   #2 
  - Thanks, JHB - you echo two points I always try to make...  Richardo   Mar-21-11 07:03 AM   #4 
     - I know. Curb cuts?  JHB   Mar-21-11 11:39 AM   #11 
  - Alleged over-regulation hasn't slowed down expansion of McDs, not at all.  leveymg   Mar-21-11 07:01 AM   #3 
  - I've Seen This Movie Before...  KharmaTrain   Mar-21-11 07:11 AM   #5 
  - and that's why Texas is strip mall heaven  CanonRay   Mar-21-11 07:27 AM   #6 
  - Such BS! Look, I have an hourly job in California.  MindPilot   Mar-21-11 08:00 AM   #7 
  - Remind me to avoid Carl's Jr. ...  eppur_se_muova   Mar-21-11 08:15 AM   #8 
  - Anti-union hit-piece by the author of "Plunder: How Public Employee Unions are Raiding Treasuries,  Starry Messenger   Mar-21-11 08:16 AM   #9 
  - "Serfdom, brought to you by Carl's Jr."  n2doc   Mar-21-11 08:49 AM   #10 
  - the horror of having to treat your employees remotely fairly  fishwax   Mar-21-11 11:43 AM   #12 
  - so you would prefer California be more like Texas than California?  CreekDog   Mar-21-11 11:45 AM   #13 
  - Lots of links to this opinion column on conservative blogs and discussion boards today n/t  CreekDog   Mar-21-11 11:49 AM   #14 
  - Hmm wouldn't know, don't waste my time with them :) (nt)  The Straight Story   Mar-21-11 11:57 AM   #16 
  - then where do you get all the anti-government, anti smoking regulation bogeyman columns?  CreekDog   Mar-21-11 01:17 PM   #19 
     - It is called google news search - type in bans, proposes, legislation  The Straight Story   Mar-21-11 01:26 PM   #21 
        - i do oppo research, i'm not afraid of them  CreekDog   Mar-21-11 01:44 PM   #22 
  - The Orange County Register is a libertarian paper.  Starry Messenger   Mar-21-11 11:57 AM   #17 
     - Isn't the owner of Carl's Jr. a big supporter of right-wing causes?  CreekDog   Mar-21-11 01:25 PM   #20 
        - Seems to be.  Starry Messenger   Mar-21-11 03:08 PM   #23 
           - Can't explain why, but Carl's seems to be touting it's super sized, horribly unhealthy foods  CreekDog   Mar-21-11 03:38 PM   #25 
              - Puzder mentioned in a few articles  Starry Messenger   Mar-21-11 03:49 PM   #27 
                 - Yeah, i don't know why I'd go to Carl's for a $6 burger when for $4 I could go to Nation's  CreekDog   Mar-21-11 04:42 PM   #28 
  - Synopsis:  SoCalDem   Mar-21-11 11:53 AM   #15 
  - Ignore the naysayers. I ran a business in Ca. It's a royal pain in the #$$  Xithras   Mar-21-11 12:26 PM   #18 
  - These are good examples of bad regulations  taught_me_patience   Mar-21-11 03:37 PM   #24 
  - Any thoughts on the cause of all this?  JHB   Mar-21-11 09:43 PM   #29 
  - Or, it could be that In n' Out Burger is just way better. nt  Warren DeMontague   Mar-21-11 03:41 PM   #26 
 

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