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Mon Mar-21-11 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #67 |
| -We have no right to interfere in a civil war. |
Dangerman |
Mar-20-11 04:09 PM |
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Mar-20-11 04:11 PM |
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We were faced with the massacre of too many innocents. They needed help and that is why we are there |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-20-11 04:12 PM |
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The Onion called. |
L. Coyote |
Mar-20-11 04:15 PM |
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That is not an argument. nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-21-11 12:46 PM |
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Massacres and genocides are hilarious. Got it. |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:14 PM |
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Then why |
BobbyBoring |
Mar-20-11 04:15 PM |
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R2P wasn't implemented then. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 04:26 PM |
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BTW, we tried Burma but China and Russia said no. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 04:26 PM |
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well, maybe we need to try again, since everyone is in such a humanitarian frame of mind |
anarch |
Mar-21-11 12:54 PM |
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I know. We are so altruistic, aren't we? That was the same reason |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-20-11 04:33 PM |
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Only one of the reasons and it was not the same as this. We are responding |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:33 PM |
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Another fact we keep forgetting... Iraqis did NOT ask for intervention from the UN. |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:16 PM |
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Well, if that is the only reason we are there, what about the |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-21-11 03:05 PM |
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Do they have a substantial rebellion on going in the Ivory Coast? |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 04:06 PM |
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Of course, supporters of the elected president are rebelling |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-21-11 04:23 PM |
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Libya did not have |
paulk |
Mar-21-11 09:25 PM |
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What "innocents"? This is now an armed rebellion. |
PurityOfEssence |
Mar-20-11 04:44 PM |
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These rebels would not be armed had they not been attack by Qaddafi. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:17 PM |
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But they are now. Now they're not innocent, vulnerable non-combatants |
PurityOfEssence |
Mar-21-11 05:46 PM |
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Yemen's largest miitary force defected illegally. If there are clashes... |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:45 PM |
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I feel that we should not intervene |
PurityOfEssence |
Mar-21-11 09:24 PM |
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Truth is we hardly ever cared about genocide before |
Riftaxe |
Mar-20-11 05:41 PM |
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Then why hasn't the US/NATO intervened in the US/NATO occupation of Afghanistan? |
Alamuti Lotus |
Mar-21-11 12:25 PM |
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We are mending and leaving the mistake and mess of Afghanistan. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:35 PM |
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mending what?? "surge" means escalation, not "mending and leaving" |
Alamuti Lotus |
Mar-21-11 12:49 PM |
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The surge is over. Isn't it? Aren't we withdrawing now? |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:06 PM |
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...No. |
Alamuti Lotus |
Mar-21-11 01:16 PM |
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Okay. It's on it's way. But Repubs are contesting. Of course. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:28 PM |
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Talk from American politicians is cheap, particularly when actions betray aforementioned "talk" |
Alamuti Lotus |
Mar-21-11 01:32 PM |
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It's crazy. I agree with you, yet I see this as a real option to this situation. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 03:52 PM |
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Then Bahrain must be next |
pokerfan |
Mar-21-11 12:31 PM |
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If the resistance is strong enough, many are being killed and the |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:43 PM |
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Bull shit |
pokerfan |
Mar-21-11 12:48 PM |
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Yemen is currently a better example, 60% of the military defected, illegally. |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:43 PM |
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what are we, freaking superman or something?? |
shanti |
Mar-21-11 12:50 PM |
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Psst... |
originalpckelly |
Mar-20-11 04:12 PM |
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And if I am not mistaken the French gave us a bit of help. That said |
jwirr |
Mar-20-11 04:16 PM |
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Fine for our country, but not their's? |
originalpckelly |
Mar-20-11 04:24 PM |
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And, the French and Brits almost "helped" again in the other civil war..the South that is. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-21-11 01:14 PM |
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Noone bothers to read the UN Charter, it seems. Usurping the UN |
L. Coyote |
Mar-20-11 04:14 PM |
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Yes it is. Inter- and intranational conflicts have historically sucked in the larger world. nt. |
Hosnon |
Mar-20-11 04:26 PM |
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Not a right, an obligation. Pursuant to Chapter VII, Articles 39-51 of the UN Charter. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Mar-20-11 04:17 PM |
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Thank you |
wtmusic |
Mar-20-11 04:22 PM |
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Yep. Ironically for the OP, what we have is more than a right... |
Hosnon |
Mar-20-11 04:24 PM |
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+1 |
Deep13 |
Mar-21-11 12:47 PM |
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As a life long pacifist, this Libyan thing has me in a spin |
randr |
Mar-20-11 04:22 PM |
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Exactly. |
originalpckelly |
Mar-20-11 04:26 PM |
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Again, a major difference... the Iraqis did NOT ask the UN for a no fly zone. |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:22 PM |
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Thank you for your honest and reasonable reply! We are ALL conflicted. |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:20 PM |
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Same feelings -- by the time things reach this point, many options are gone .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-11 01:32 PM |
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Almost 700 people were murdered in Egypt, if it escalated to the level Libya has... |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:30 PM |
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Egypt and Tunisia |
reggie the dog |
Mar-20-11 04:28 PM |
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If indeed it was a civil war, |
Iterate |
Mar-20-11 04:50 PM |
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And what results is something the CIA termed "blowback" |
The Northerner |
Mar-20-11 04:58 PM |
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We do. Unless you are Bolton and want to dissolve the UN |
FLPanhandle |
Mar-20-11 04:59 PM |
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I completely agree |
Stinky The Clown |
Mar-21-11 12:21 PM |
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Nope. None of us |
Catherina |
Mar-21-11 12:43 PM |
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U.N. authorization creates that right. |
Deep13 |
Mar-21-11 12:45 PM |
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I agree. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:09 PM |
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Says who? You? n/t |
BzaDem |
Mar-21-11 12:46 PM |
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im glad the UN and arab league is more sane than you |
meow mix |
Mar-21-11 12:48 PM |
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But..but..it worked ever so well in Vietnam and is working ever so well in Afghanistan. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Amen! Fuck those unarmed civilians! |
JNelson6563 |
Mar-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Hey. You forgot the sarcasm icon. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:18 PM |
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Hoped I didn't need it. |
JNelson6563 |
Mar-21-11 01:43 PM |
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The no fly zone |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-21-11 01:12 PM |
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I can see it that way too,but we are here to help too. Maybe not with a |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:16 PM |
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Libya isn't a "civil war" -- it's an uprising of the people to get rid of a dictator .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-11 01:22 PM |
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"long propped up by the US" = lol. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-21-11 03:53 PM |
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It's very well known that Gaddafi was kept in power by the CIA. |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:40 PM |
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indeed? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-21-11 08:21 PM |
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"...Libya's ``cooperation on intelligence is strong and getting stronger,..'' |
robdogbucky |
Mar-21-11 05:05 PM |
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Thank you -- this was Bush administration "normalizing" relations with Libya and more -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-11 06:36 PM |
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+1 |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:40 PM |
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I agree. |
David__77 |
Mar-21-11 05:51 PM |
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Would you say the same if Egypt or Yemen escalated to the same level Libya has? |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:33 PM |
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if we did nothing.... |
unkachuck |
Mar-21-11 09:08 PM |
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