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Mon Mar-21-11 12:54 PM
Response to Reply #16 |
| 40. well, maybe we need to try again, since everyone is in such a humanitarian frame of mind |
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Let's put an end to all oppression everywhere, with the use of military force! North Korea, I'm looking at you...
Hell, let's take it to the next step, and have the U.N. move in on, I dunno, say, the three countries with the top per capita prison populations, b/c it just seems prima facie wrong to have a lot of people locked up. Let's roll!
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| -We have no right to interfere in a civil war. |
Dangerman |
Mar-20-11 04:09 PM |
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Mar-20-11 04:11 PM |
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We were faced with the massacre of too many innocents. They needed help and that is why we are there |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-20-11 04:12 PM |
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The Onion called. |
L. Coyote |
Mar-20-11 04:15 PM |
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That is not an argument. nt |
Deep13 |
Mar-21-11 12:46 PM |
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Massacres and genocides are hilarious. Got it. |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:14 PM |
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Then why |
BobbyBoring |
Mar-20-11 04:15 PM |
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R2P wasn't implemented then. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 04:26 PM |
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BTW, we tried Burma but China and Russia said no. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 04:26 PM |
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well, maybe we need to try again, since everyone is in such a humanitarian frame of mind |
anarch |
Mar-21-11 12:54 PM |
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I know. We are so altruistic, aren't we? That was the same reason |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-20-11 04:33 PM |
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Only one of the reasons and it was not the same as this. We are responding |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:33 PM |
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Another fact we keep forgetting... Iraqis did NOT ask for intervention from the UN. |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:16 PM |
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Well, if that is the only reason we are there, what about the |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-21-11 03:05 PM |
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Do they have a substantial rebellion on going in the Ivory Coast? |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 04:06 PM |
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Of course, supporters of the elected president are rebelling |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-21-11 04:23 PM |
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Libya did not have |
paulk |
Mar-21-11 09:25 PM |
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What "innocents"? This is now an armed rebellion. |
PurityOfEssence |
Mar-20-11 04:44 PM |
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These rebels would not be armed had they not been attack by Qaddafi. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:17 PM |
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But they are now. Now they're not innocent, vulnerable non-combatants |
PurityOfEssence |
Mar-21-11 05:46 PM |
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Yemen's largest miitary force defected illegally. If there are clashes... |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:45 PM |
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I feel that we should not intervene |
PurityOfEssence |
Mar-21-11 09:24 PM |
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Truth is we hardly ever cared about genocide before |
Riftaxe |
Mar-20-11 05:41 PM |
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Then why hasn't the US/NATO intervened in the US/NATO occupation of Afghanistan? |
Alamuti Lotus |
Mar-21-11 12:25 PM |
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We are mending and leaving the mistake and mess of Afghanistan. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:35 PM |
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mending what?? "surge" means escalation, not "mending and leaving" |
Alamuti Lotus |
Mar-21-11 12:49 PM |
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The surge is over. Isn't it? Aren't we withdrawing now? |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:06 PM |
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...No. |
Alamuti Lotus |
Mar-21-11 01:16 PM |
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Okay. It's on it's way. But Repubs are contesting. Of course. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:28 PM |
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Talk from American politicians is cheap, particularly when actions betray aforementioned "talk" |
Alamuti Lotus |
Mar-21-11 01:32 PM |
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It's crazy. I agree with you, yet I see this as a real option to this situation. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 03:52 PM |
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Then Bahrain must be next |
pokerfan |
Mar-21-11 12:31 PM |
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If the resistance is strong enough, many are being killed and the |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 12:43 PM |
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Bull shit |
pokerfan |
Mar-21-11 12:48 PM |
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Yemen is currently a better example, 60% of the military defected, illegally. |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:43 PM |
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what are we, freaking superman or something?? |
shanti |
Mar-21-11 12:50 PM |
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Psst... |
originalpckelly |
Mar-20-11 04:12 PM |
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And if I am not mistaken the French gave us a bit of help. That said |
jwirr |
Mar-20-11 04:16 PM |
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Fine for our country, but not their's? |
originalpckelly |
Mar-20-11 04:24 PM |
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And, the French and Brits almost "helped" again in the other civil war..the South that is. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-21-11 01:14 PM |
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Noone bothers to read the UN Charter, it seems. Usurping the UN |
L. Coyote |
Mar-20-11 04:14 PM |
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Yes it is. Inter- and intranational conflicts have historically sucked in the larger world. nt. |
Hosnon |
Mar-20-11 04:26 PM |
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Not a right, an obligation. Pursuant to Chapter VII, Articles 39-51 of the UN Charter. |
Spider Jerusalem |
Mar-20-11 04:17 PM |
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Thank you |
wtmusic |
Mar-20-11 04:22 PM |
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Yep. Ironically for the OP, what we have is more than a right... |
Hosnon |
Mar-20-11 04:24 PM |
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+1 |
Deep13 |
Mar-21-11 12:47 PM |
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As a life long pacifist, this Libyan thing has me in a spin |
randr |
Mar-20-11 04:22 PM |
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Exactly. |
originalpckelly |
Mar-20-11 04:26 PM |
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Again, a major difference... the Iraqis did NOT ask the UN for a no fly zone. |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:22 PM |
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Thank you for your honest and reasonable reply! We are ALL conflicted. |
bobbolink |
Mar-21-11 01:20 PM |
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Same feelings -- by the time things reach this point, many options are gone .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-11 01:32 PM |
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Almost 700 people were murdered in Egypt, if it escalated to the level Libya has... |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:30 PM |
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Egypt and Tunisia |
reggie the dog |
Mar-20-11 04:28 PM |
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If indeed it was a civil war, |
Iterate |
Mar-20-11 04:50 PM |
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And what results is something the CIA termed "blowback" |
The Northerner |
Mar-20-11 04:58 PM |
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We do. Unless you are Bolton and want to dissolve the UN |
FLPanhandle |
Mar-20-11 04:59 PM |
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I completely agree |
Stinky The Clown |
Mar-21-11 12:21 PM |
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Nope. None of us |
Catherina |
Mar-21-11 12:43 PM |
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U.N. authorization creates that right. |
Deep13 |
Mar-21-11 12:45 PM |
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I agree. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:09 PM |
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Says who? You? n/t |
BzaDem |
Mar-21-11 12:46 PM |
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im glad the UN and arab league is more sane than you |
meow mix |
Mar-21-11 12:48 PM |
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But..but..it worked ever so well in Vietnam and is working ever so well in Afghanistan. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Amen! Fuck those unarmed civilians! |
JNelson6563 |
Mar-21-11 01:11 PM |
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Hey. You forgot the sarcasm icon. |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:18 PM |
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Hoped I didn't need it. |
JNelson6563 |
Mar-21-11 01:43 PM |
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The no fly zone |
dipsydoodle |
Mar-21-11 01:12 PM |
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I can see it that way too,but we are here to help too. Maybe not with a |
The Wielding Truth |
Mar-21-11 01:16 PM |
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Libya isn't a "civil war" -- it's an uprising of the people to get rid of a dictator .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-11 01:22 PM |
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"long propped up by the US" = lol. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-21-11 03:53 PM |
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It's very well known that Gaddafi was kept in power by the CIA. |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:40 PM |
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indeed? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-21-11 08:21 PM |
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"...Libya's ``cooperation on intelligence is strong and getting stronger,..'' |
robdogbucky |
Mar-21-11 05:05 PM |
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Thank you -- this was Bush administration "normalizing" relations with Libya and more -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-21-11 06:36 PM |
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+1 |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:40 PM |
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I agree. |
David__77 |
Mar-21-11 05:51 PM |
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Would you say the same if Egypt or Yemen escalated to the same level Libya has? |
joshcryer |
Mar-21-11 07:33 PM |
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if we did nothing.... |
unkachuck |
Mar-21-11 09:08 PM |
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