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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Mar-20-11 04:53 AM
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17. the situation then did not parallel the situation today. there is no parallel.
at all.

"doing it different this time" implies there's a parallel. there's no parallel.
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  -Let's rewind back to 1936 RZM  Mar-20-11 04:20 AM   #0 
  - They would say not US while  denem   Mar-20-11 04:28 AM   #1 
  - Agreeed  RZM   Mar-20-11 04:34 AM   #3 
  - Too much history for people to absorb. I know the anarchists got involved.  joshcryer   Mar-20-11 04:32 AM   #2 
  - Anarchists were certainly part of the Popular Front and the International Brigades  RZM   Mar-20-11 04:36 AM   #4 
  - Yes, and they got betrayed by the communists  PurityOfEssence   Mar-20-11 04:37 AM   #5 
     - Yep, there was a communist here defending that in the "capitalism is no democratic" thread.  joshcryer   Mar-20-11 04:39 AM   #7 
     - The point here is intervention  RZM   Mar-20-11 04:46 AM   #13 
        - What breaks my heart about this is that Benghazi was / is very much a Catalonia for Libya.  joshcryer   Mar-20-11 04:52 AM   #16 
           - I guess some poeple just don't get it  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:06 AM   #24 
              - So do I, and I don't think they're terrorists.  joshcryer   Mar-20-11 05:25 AM   #36 
  - not getting the parallel with the spanish civil war whatsoever.  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 04:37 AM   #6 
  - It's a question of intervention.  joshcryer   Mar-20-11 04:40 AM   #8 
  - what does anything about libya have to do with the spanish civil war?  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 04:41 AM   #9 
     - Libya does not equal Spain in a domestic sense  RZM   Mar-20-11 04:43 AM   #11 
        - franco was a fascist trying to overthrow an elected government, that's  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 04:51 AM   #15 
           - Here you have rebels trying to overthrow an authoritarian government  RZM   Mar-20-11 04:56 AM   #19 
              - which has nothing to do with the spanish civil war. there is no parallel.  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:05 AM   #23 
                 - Please read closely here  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:09 AM   #26 
                    - franco was not a dictator at the time of the spanish civil war. he was a rebel general  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:16 AM   #30 
                       - Sheesh, have you read my posts here?  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:20 AM   #31 
                          - there is no reason to invoke the spanish civil war. i have no idea why you don't get it.  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:23 AM   #34 
                             - Was Franco 'our dictator?'  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:26 AM   #37 
                                - apparently so, as he remained in power for a very long time with no challenge  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:30 AM   #39 
                                - I meant at the time he seized power, which is when all of this, you know, mattered  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:34 AM   #42 
                                - I do believe Franco was a lesser evil at that time and at that culture from a global perspective.  joshcryer   Mar-20-11 05:35 AM   #43 
                                   - Many people agreed  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:41 AM   #46 
                                   - ???? no, i don't think so.  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:44 AM   #47 
  - It's about the foreign response  RZM   Mar-20-11 04:41 AM   #10 
     - the situation then did not parallel the situation today. there is no parallel.  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 04:53 AM   #17 
     - I don't think you're getting this  RZM   Mar-20-11 04:59 AM   #20 
     - i get totally what you are saying. but there is no parallel in the situation.  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:09 AM   #25 
        - What are you arguing here then?  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:11 AM   #28 
           - i am arguing that you are illegitimately invoking the spanish civil war  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:21 AM   #32 
              - I will not  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:23 AM   #35 
     - BTW  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:02 AM   #21 
        - completely irrelevant to the point under discussion. there is no parallel whatsoever  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:10 AM   #27 
           - I don't think you're going to come around here  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:12 AM   #29 
              - my point is about your inability to make a case for intervention beyond  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:31 AM   #40 
                 - One more time  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:39 AM   #45 
                    - lol. if this is the entire argument for intervention, not a chance in hell i'd  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:59 AM   #53 
                       - That's not the entire argument  RZM   Mar-20-11 06:04 AM   #54 
     - here is my issue....  ejpoeta   Mar-20-11 05:56 AM   #51 
  - There's also 1939 when Britain and France 'intervened' on another country's actions  Turborama   Mar-20-11 04:45 AM   #12 
  - Agreed. They finally got wise after Hitler took over Bohemia and Moravia  RZM   Mar-20-11 04:49 AM   #14 
  - you're comparing this now to england fighting hitler?  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 04:55 AM   #18 
     - Ghaddafi has invaded Eastern Libya, which is in open revolt against him n/t  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:04 AM   #22 
     - "invaded"? um, last time i checked, eastern libya was part of libya,  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:32 AM   #41 
        - I see  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:37 AM   #44 
           - you're saying a head of state "invades" the country he rules?  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:45 AM   #48 
              - Did the North 'invade' the South during the Civil War?  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:51 AM   #49 
                 - no. the south was rebelling against the central government. the north did not "invade"  Hannah Bell   Mar-20-11 05:55 AM   #50 
                    - Huh? So it's not a civil war in Libya?  RZM   Mar-20-11 05:58 AM   #52 
     - Can you read? "Britain and France 'intervened' on another country's actions"  Turborama   Mar-20-11 05:23 AM   #33 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-20-11 05:29 AM   #38 
  - Wrong, but thanks for playing. nt  Modern_Matthew   Mar-20-11 06:31 AM   #55 
  - Do you have ANY friggen idea who "The Rebels" are in Libya?  bvar22   Mar-20-11 08:00 AM   #56 
 

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