RZM
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Sun Mar-20-11 04:43 AM
Response to Reply #9 |
| 11. Libya does not equal Spain in a domestic sense |
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But the question of international intervention does have some relevance. Do you get involved in another country's civil war? How many DUers would have preferred that the West took strong action against Franco? I'd imagine quite a few.
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| -Let's rewind back to 1936 |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:20 AM |
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They would say not US while |
denem |
Mar-20-11 04:28 AM |
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Agreeed |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:34 AM |
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Too much history for people to absorb. I know the anarchists got involved. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 04:32 AM |
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Anarchists were certainly part of the Popular Front and the International Brigades |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:36 AM |
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Yes, and they got betrayed by the communists |
PurityOfEssence |
Mar-20-11 04:37 AM |
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Yep, there was a communist here defending that in the "capitalism is no democratic" thread. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 04:39 AM |
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The point here is intervention |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:46 AM |
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What breaks my heart about this is that Benghazi was / is very much a Catalonia for Libya. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 04:52 AM |
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I guess some poeple just don't get it |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:06 AM |
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So do I, and I don't think they're terrorists. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 05:25 AM |
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not getting the parallel with the spanish civil war whatsoever. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 04:37 AM |
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It's a question of intervention. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 04:40 AM |
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what does anything about libya have to do with the spanish civil war? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 04:41 AM |
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Libya does not equal Spain in a domestic sense |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:43 AM |
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franco was a fascist trying to overthrow an elected government, that's |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 04:51 AM |
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Here you have rebels trying to overthrow an authoritarian government |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:56 AM |
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which has nothing to do with the spanish civil war. there is no parallel. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:05 AM |
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Please read closely here |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:09 AM |
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franco was not a dictator at the time of the spanish civil war. he was a rebel general |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:16 AM |
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Sheesh, have you read my posts here? |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:20 AM |
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there is no reason to invoke the spanish civil war. i have no idea why you don't get it. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:23 AM |
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Was Franco 'our dictator?' |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:26 AM |
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apparently so, as he remained in power for a very long time with no challenge |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:30 AM |
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I meant at the time he seized power, which is when all of this, you know, mattered |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:34 AM |
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I do believe Franco was a lesser evil at that time and at that culture from a global perspective. |
joshcryer |
Mar-20-11 05:35 AM |
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Many people agreed |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:41 AM |
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???? no, i don't think so. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:44 AM |
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It's about the foreign response |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:41 AM |
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the situation then did not parallel the situation today. there is no parallel. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 04:53 AM |
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I don't think you're getting this |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:59 AM |
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i get totally what you are saying. but there is no parallel in the situation. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:09 AM |
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What are you arguing here then? |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:11 AM |
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i am arguing that you are illegitimately invoking the spanish civil war |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:21 AM |
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I will not |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:23 AM |
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BTW |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:02 AM |
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completely irrelevant to the point under discussion. there is no parallel whatsoever |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:10 AM |
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I don't think you're going to come around here |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:12 AM |
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my point is about your inability to make a case for intervention beyond |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:31 AM |
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One more time |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:39 AM |
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lol. if this is the entire argument for intervention, not a chance in hell i'd |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:59 AM |
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That's not the entire argument |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 06:04 AM |
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here is my issue.... |
ejpoeta |
Mar-20-11 05:56 AM |
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There's also 1939 when Britain and France 'intervened' on another country's actions |
Turborama |
Mar-20-11 04:45 AM |
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Agreed. They finally got wise after Hitler took over Bohemia and Moravia |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 04:49 AM |
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you're comparing this now to england fighting hitler? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 04:55 AM |
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Ghaddafi has invaded Eastern Libya, which is in open revolt against him n/t |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:04 AM |
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"invaded"? um, last time i checked, eastern libya was part of libya, |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:32 AM |
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I see |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:37 AM |
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you're saying a head of state "invades" the country he rules? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:45 AM |
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Did the North 'invade' the South during the Civil War? |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:51 AM |
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no. the south was rebelling against the central government. the north did not "invade" |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-20-11 05:55 AM |
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Huh? So it's not a civil war in Libya? |
RZM |
Mar-20-11 05:58 AM |
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Can you read? "Britain and France 'intervened' on another country's actions" |
Turborama |
Mar-20-11 05:23 AM |
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Name removed |
Mar-20-11 05:29 AM |
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Wrong, but thanks for playing. nt |
Modern_Matthew |
Mar-20-11 06:31 AM |
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Do you have ANY friggen idea who "The Rebels" are in Libya? |
bvar22 |
Mar-20-11 08:00 AM |
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