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Sat Mar-19-11 02:01 PM
Response to Reply #7 |
| -Should the military draft be brought back? |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 01:06 PM |
#0 |
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let's do it Roman style. Draft only the rich. |
provis99 |
Mar-19-11 01:08 PM |
#1 |
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and make the poor slaves? |
Motown_Johnny |
Mar-19-11 01:28 PM |
#24 |
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They also drafted the poor |
WatsonT |
Mar-19-11 01:33 PM |
#26 |
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Well that part has already been done, so no action required there. |
lonestarnot |
Mar-19-11 03:12 PM |
#78 |
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I maybe wouldn't mind that. |
lonestarnot |
Mar-19-11 03:11 PM |
#77 |
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They should be forced to surrender their assets while they serve too. |
Xenotime |
Mar-23-11 11:24 AM |
#167 |
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It should be 18-40, if it is anything at all. |
GodlessBiker |
Mar-19-11 01:09 PM |
#2 |
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It should be draft supporters ONLY, if anything at all. n/t |
jacquelope |
Mar-19-11 02:51 PM |
#73 |
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Yes. And, a book of matches should be issued with every draft card to burn it with. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-19-11 01:09 PM |
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It would definitely IMO keep more of the country in focus on what is going on if |
RKP5637 |
Mar-19-11 01:16 PM |
#10 |
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NO ONE GIVES A SHIT |
leftstreet |
Mar-19-11 01:21 PM |
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The government is spending 2BILLION DOLLARS a week in Afghanistan! |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 01:27 PM |
#23 |
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That "is" the bottom line, no one gives a shit about anything in America anymore. n/t |
RKP5637 |
Mar-19-11 02:15 PM |
#56 |
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And somehow... |
Aerows |
Mar-19-11 06:00 PM |
#119 |
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+100,000,000 !!! |
jacquelope |
Mar-19-11 03:13 PM |
#80 |
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use the match to light a joint and you would be undraftable |
reggie the dog |
Mar-19-11 03:25 PM |
#87 |
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I was opposed to the draft in the '60s also, and I can't believe I just voted for it. |
Raksha |
Mar-19-11 04:53 PM |
#108 |
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You have a draft and more poor boys die in even more rich man's wars. |
glen123098 |
Mar-19-11 05:04 PM |
#110 |
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HELL NO! My son turned 18 4 days ago. No military can have him. Sorry. n/t |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-19-11 01:10 PM |
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I just ADOPTED a baby boy last month NO WAY IN HELL!!!! |
jacquelope |
Mar-19-11 02:50 PM |
#71 |
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Wait...you're saying a Democrat came up with this shit? |
leftstreet |
Mar-19-11 01:10 PM |
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The only way to stop these wars is to get people out to protest. |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 01:14 PM |
#7 |
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LOLLOL - yeah we never thought of that n/t |
leftstreet |
Mar-19-11 01:16 PM |
#11 |
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Exactly!!! n/t |
RKP5637 |
Mar-19-11 01:17 PM |
#12 |
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Yeah, that really worked in Vietnam. 50,000 American deaths there, |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 01:52 PM |
#45 |
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Do you feel the current wars are out of sight, out of mind for most Americans? n/t |
RKP5637 |
Mar-19-11 02:14 PM |
#55 |
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I don't think draft-related protests would make any difference. |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 06:04 PM |
#120 |
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I agree with your posts. If we protest the protesters become blamed just like in |
RKP5637 |
Mar-19-11 06:21 PM |
#126 |
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Those nightly broadcasts did help. But Bush also put a lid on that |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 09:26 PM |
#140 |
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Yep, out of sight, out of mind, no pictures of the coffins. US talks about other |
RKP5637 |
Mar-19-11 10:16 PM |
#141 |
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Frankly with or without the draft we are screwed, as with most things, because |
RKP5637 |
Mar-19-11 02:26 PM |
#57 |
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How long did protests go on during Vietnam before that war ended? |
Forkboy |
Mar-19-11 01:19 PM |
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For years, through 50,000 deaths. And it was Watergate that |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 01:50 PM |
#43 |
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58,000 deaths |
reggie the dog |
Mar-19-11 03:24 PM |
#86 |
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No, it was not. - perhaps you are thinking of the Pentagon Papers. |
kiva |
Mar-19-11 03:35 PM |
#94 |
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The first reports related to Watergate came out months before |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 06:06 PM |
#121 |
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Everything he said and did shows that he had no |
kiva |
Mar-19-11 07:45 PM |
#138 |
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I protested against the draft in the 60's, but we |
lob1 |
Mar-19-11 01:35 PM |
#28 |
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The protests didn't end the war. Nixon only negotiated |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 01:53 PM |
#46 |
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it wasn't after Watergate, why do you keep repeating this misinformation? |
bettyellen |
Mar-20-11 07:48 AM |
#147 |
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Wrong. We had years of protests in Vietnam, and 50,000 soldiers |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 01:49 PM |
#41 |
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+1 |
Poll_Blind |
Mar-19-11 02:01 PM |
#51 |
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That's a big gamble. Didn't work for Vietnam. |
dorkulon |
Mar-19-11 02:50 PM |
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He is most likely is a DINO with no kids. |
RC |
Mar-19-11 01:15 PM |
#9 |
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No, he's a black man who sees how the poor and minorities are |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 01:17 PM |
#13 |
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He is a black man who was drafted for Korea |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-19-11 06:57 PM |
#135 |
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Rangel's been on this hobby horse for years |
KamaAina |
Mar-23-11 11:23 AM |
#165 |
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Whaaat?? |
HappyMe |
Mar-19-11 01:14 PM |
#6 |
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No, what we should do is cap oil company profits, and start taxing the fuck out of them. |
Initech |
Mar-19-11 01:15 PM |
#8 |
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i just can't agree |
2gabby |
Mar-19-11 01:22 PM |
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Welcome to DU! |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 01:24 PM |
#18 |
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oh, gee thank you :) |
2gabby |
Mar-19-11 02:46 PM |
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Welcome to DU, 2gabby! (Love the name.) I actually would be for the draft BUT |
tpsbmam |
Mar-19-11 04:07 PM |
#102 |
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wish i could agree with u :) |
2gabby |
Mar-19-11 04:56 PM |
#109 |
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Yes |
Aerows |
Mar-19-11 01:22 PM |
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+1 |
Supply Side Jesus |
Mar-19-11 01:25 PM |
#19 |
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It Would Cause More Wars |
AndyTiedye |
Mar-19-11 01:41 PM |
#34 |
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How would they end? nt |
ZombieHorde |
Mar-19-11 01:42 PM |
#36 |
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With protests and open revolt in the street n/t |
Aerows |
Mar-19-11 01:58 PM |
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I know I can't predict the future, but I don't think the US government would |
ZombieHorde |
Mar-19-11 02:49 PM |
#70 |
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Do you want the US to have a standing army or don't you? |
Agony |
Mar-19-11 01:25 PM |
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I'd rather have it sitting down and not leaving our shores. |
Better Believe It |
Mar-19-11 01:27 PM |
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+1 or +10000000 or whatever means that I agree with you nt |
Agony |
Mar-19-11 01:29 PM |
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okay, i have to |
2gabby |
Mar-19-11 01:33 PM |
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The problem is, ALL won't end up serving. |
HappyMe |
Mar-19-11 01:35 PM |
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Not as long as we insist on being the worlds policeman and interfering where |
RC |
Mar-19-11 01:39 PM |
#33 |
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I think we should let them have some chairs. |
verges |
Mar-19-11 01:43 PM |
#37 |
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You can have a standing army made of of volunteers, as it is now. |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 01:46 PM |
#39 |
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you first |
lame54 |
Mar-23-11 11:23 AM |
#166 |
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Other.. mandatory military service for all |
Motown_Johnny |
Mar-19-11 01:26 PM |
#21 |
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Make sure the rich have some skin in the game. |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-19-11 01:36 PM |
#30 |
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Only if all the Congresspeople' kids are the first to be drafted. (n/t) |
LAGC |
Mar-19-11 01:38 PM |
#31 |
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No, I strongly disapprove of a draft. |
ZombieHorde |
Mar-19-11 01:39 PM |
#32 |
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Has anyone else noticed the gender-neutral language in this letter? |
kiva |
Mar-19-11 01:41 PM |
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It would only make it EASIER to send men and women to |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 01:55 PM |
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Your second paragraph says it all. |
kiva |
Mar-19-11 02:00 PM |
#49 |
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The ability of the military to staff an army with volunteers |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 02:11 PM |
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Your second paragraph says it all. |
kiva |
Mar-19-11 02:00 PM |
#50 |
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yes |
2gabby |
Mar-19-11 02:14 PM |
#54 |
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Your thinking reminds me of someone... |
timtom |
Mar-20-11 06:12 AM |
#144 |
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that gave me a chuckle, this grim am |
2gabby |
Mar-20-11 09:55 AM |
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People who support this haven't learned from history. |
pnwmom |
Mar-19-11 01:43 PM |
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Nobody knows for sure what the consequences would be |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 01:49 PM |
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Other. Universal national service |
MH1 |
Mar-19-11 01:48 PM |
#40 |
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NO! More Cannon Fodder = More Wars! |
AndyTiedye |
Mar-19-11 01:51 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-19-11 02:05 PM |
#52 |
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Anyone that voted YES is a vile human being and shouldn't be allowed to breathe my air. nt |
Modern_Matthew |
Mar-19-11 02:27 PM |
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Well. That's constructive. |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 02:30 PM |
#59 |
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Yeah, well. It's not very constructive forcing people into war, either. |
Modern_Matthew |
Mar-19-11 02:33 PM |
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Anyone who voted YES should be drafted first! n/t |
jacquelope |
Mar-19-11 03:24 PM |
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Yes and so should indentured servitude and slavery. |
timtom |
Mar-19-11 02:30 PM |
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How else are we supposed to protect the investments of the wealthiest 1%? |
Marr |
Mar-19-11 02:32 PM |
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War exploits men. |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 02:36 PM |
#63 |
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Is this poll being rigged by freepers? |
Youth Uprising |
Mar-19-11 02:39 PM |
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I only linked to provide a quote from Rangel's letter |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 02:46 PM |
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No, I voted yes for the same reason Rangle proposed this - |
kiva |
Mar-19-11 02:47 PM |
#69 |
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Exactly! |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 02:54 PM |
#74 |
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How about a special war tax? That'll get their attention. |
Auggie |
Mar-19-11 03:19 PM |
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A war tax should have been passed on day 1 |
OmahaBlueDog |
Mar-20-11 01:46 AM |
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It's gotta be the freepers. |
jacquelope |
Mar-20-11 01:39 AM |
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Many think a draft will reduce the number of wars |
hack89 |
Mar-20-11 07:21 AM |
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Who here with children are willing to have them risk their lives by being involuntarily drafted? |
elocs |
Mar-19-11 02:45 PM |
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A draft would NEVER be fairly implemented |
Urban Prairie |
Mar-19-11 02:45 PM |
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maybe our military ought to focus on real threats |
2gabby |
Mar-19-11 03:07 PM |
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I'm tired of this country offering so many young people almost no other opportunities and then |
Maru Kitteh |
Mar-19-11 03:10 PM |
#76 |
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What and let them be able to kill you for their greedy wars? |
RegieRocker |
Mar-19-11 03:12 PM |
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Very easy to avoid, smoke weed, fail the drug test, and stay out |
reggie the dog |
Mar-19-11 03:17 PM |
#81 |
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why should my daughter or my nephew be turned into killers |
reggie the dog |
Mar-19-11 03:19 PM |
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Nixon wanted a volunteer army. Tell you anything? |
mikehiggins |
Mar-19-11 03:22 PM |
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The people who volunteer now are doing so because |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 03:32 PM |
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oh my god... |
shanti |
Mar-19-11 03:26 PM |
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You'd be surprised |
cemaphonic |
Mar-19-11 05:30 PM |
#113 |
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I'm surprised to see all the yes votes here |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 03:31 PM |
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Yes I would include women |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-19-11 03:34 PM |
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A bill to draft would have to include women |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 03:38 PM |
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After they finish their college they go into officer candidate school |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-19-11 03:50 PM |
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So, these look like the choices for someone with over six months |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 05:08 PM |
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The language of Rangels bill and letter is inclusive. |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 03:34 PM |
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Yes, I can see that |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 03:40 PM |
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People voting for the draft here are against war. |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 03:46 PM |
#98 |
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So is putting in tax cuts for the rich |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 04:48 PM |
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I will use my nieces as examples |
nadinbrzezinski |
Mar-19-11 03:53 PM |
#101 |
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With an inclusion of women into any draft bill |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 04:51 PM |
#107 |
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DU has always voted this way for the draft |
Renew Deal |
Mar-20-11 04:41 PM |
#157 |
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Should the institution of slavery be brought back? |
fittosurvive |
Mar-19-11 03:34 PM |
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Good comparison n/t |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 03:41 PM |
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No, its not. |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 03:51 PM |
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but |
2gabby |
Mar-19-11 04:18 PM |
#103 |
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How is drafting everyone more unfair to some than to others? |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 05:46 PM |
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Sounds like the argument the Rethuglicans use |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 06:24 PM |
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I have no idea how that has anything to do with this. |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 06:31 PM |
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It's the idea of |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 07:00 PM |
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yes, i think some people want to join, its volunteer now |
2gabby |
Mar-19-11 07:45 PM |
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If this ever happens |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 04:46 PM |
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"Playing strategy with innocent people's lives is something the Republicons like to do" |
wickerwoman |
Mar-19-11 05:43 PM |
#115 |
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Thank you |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 06:49 PM |
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There should be no college deferrments |
undeterred |
Mar-19-11 05:49 PM |
#118 |
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Ah, but there always will be |
customerserviceguy |
Mar-19-11 06:21 PM |
#127 |
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YES! People would then rise up and demand an end to low wages !!111 |
leftstreet |
Mar-19-11 06:11 PM |
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Once again, no, Rangel. Young people are not political bargaining chips. n/t |
Akoto |
Mar-19-11 04:48 PM |
#106 |
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Hell no. My kids won't be fighting in these wars of imperialism. End the effing wars. |
krabigirl |
Mar-19-11 05:10 PM |
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No. The state does not have the right to compel people to serve it. |
wickerwoman |
Mar-19-11 05:40 PM |
#114 |
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there should be a public referendum on all wars |
Bardley |
Mar-19-11 05:48 PM |
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Don't like the secret ballot concept, eh? |
Marengo |
Mar-20-11 10:12 AM |
#153 |
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Yes, but open regsitration only to |
demwing |
Mar-19-11 06:09 PM |
#122 |
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Our command structure and current social attitude... |
BOHICA12 |
Mar-19-11 06:09 PM |
#123 |
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The military is getting ready to actively decrease its ranks |
joe_sixpack |
Mar-19-11 06:17 PM |
#125 |
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Only if |
madamesilverspurs |
Mar-19-11 06:36 PM |
#130 |
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This isn't Israel, Mr. Rangel, and I don't think emulating them is the best thing. |
Arkana |
Mar-19-11 06:49 PM |
#131 |
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Absolutely not |
NuclearDem |
Mar-19-11 06:55 PM |
#133 |
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no, it is morally wrong to draft people to kill other people |
pitohui |
Mar-19-11 06:55 PM |
#134 |
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Why? |
ileus |
Mar-19-11 06:59 PM |
#136 |
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We can't afford it - it would explode the defense budget. |
hack89 |
Mar-20-11 07:26 AM |
#146 |
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Funny thing about fishing . . . . it never works out so well for the BAIT. |
HughBeaumont |
Mar-20-11 08:00 AM |
#148 |
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oh that's the best one, the bait |
2gabby |
Mar-20-11 10:02 AM |
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Thinking more about what you said. Nationwide strike is what its gonna take |
2gabby |
Mar-20-11 10:11 AM |
#152 |
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Yes, with no loopholes. |
sarcasmo |
Mar-20-11 09:57 AM |
#150 |
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kicking for those who missed it |
undeterred |
Mar-20-11 04:05 PM |
#154 |
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This is a very silly, wrong-headed idea. |
sibelian |
Mar-20-11 04:09 PM |
#155 |
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Thanks for your opinion. |
undeterred |
Mar-20-11 04:35 PM |
#156 |
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yes |
handmade34 |
Mar-20-11 04:41 PM |
#158 |
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Liberals who vote "yes" because they think that the draft will create an upswell against a war |
The Backlash Cometh |
Mar-20-11 04:43 PM |
#159 |
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End the fucking wars! n/t |
Chemical Bill |
Mar-20-11 04:44 PM |
#160 |
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Aside from "getting even" with the well-to-do, I don't see why we need a draft. |
Blue-Jay |
Mar-20-11 04:56 PM |
#161 |
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Yeah, how about I'LL decide when I want to die in a war. ~nt |
CommonSensePLZ |
Mar-20-11 06:31 PM |
#162 |
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hell no. Ending wars by giving more bodies to throw into it is an asinine idea. |
uppityperson |
Mar-23-11 11:12 AM |
#163 |
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We don't want our children turned into killers ...unless they enlist. pfffft! |
L0oniX |
Mar-23-11 11:19 AM |
#164 |
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Yup. See how quickly the gung-ho wingnuts change their tune after Johnny Tea Patriot has to put his |
truebrit71 |
Mar-23-11 11:26 AM |
#168 |