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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Mar-16-11 10:36 PM
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27. Thank you for posting that. Very clear, but I have no hope Dems will change their tune.
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  -Since when are "Social Safety Net" programs now called "Entitlements?" RandomKoolzip  Mar-16-11 09:57 PM   #0 
  - Because it makes us poor folk look like ripoffs.  bobbolink   Mar-16-11 09:59 PM   #1 
  - You nailed it. nt  madmax   Mar-16-11 10:03 PM   #3 
  - You've noticed that too.  madmax   Mar-16-11 10:01 PM   #2 
  - I just wonder why people passively accept the hijacking of the language to serve ideological ends.  RandomKoolzip   Mar-16-11 10:04 PM   #6 
     - It's subtle.  madmax   Mar-16-11 10:11 PM   #15 
     - Once again... because WE. DON'T. MATTER.  bobbolink   Mar-16-11 10:12 PM   #17 
  - Since the right wing media reframed the message.  Cleita   Mar-16-11 10:03 PM   #4 
  - K&R.  madinmaryland   Mar-16-11 10:04 PM   #5 
  - I hate that word and the way the rich are using it lately.  Riley18   Mar-16-11 10:04 PM   #7 
  - Its a legal term - it simply denotes a right granted.  hack89   Mar-16-11 10:04 PM   #8 
  - Yes, but it has different connotations. It's no accident that the MSM is using  RandomKoolzip   Mar-16-11 10:07 PM   #12 
     - No - when you are talking about budgets and laws  hack89   Mar-16-11 10:11 PM   #16 
     - Then is it because we're simply talking about the programs themselves more that  RandomKoolzip   Mar-16-11 10:15 PM   #20 
        - Can't help but talk about them a lot when you are considering massive budget cuts. nt  hack89   Mar-16-11 10:19 PM   #24 
     - You are exactly right as far as the connotations are concerned -- an "entitled" child  anneboleyn   Mar-16-11 10:57 PM   #29 
        - "Those people have such a sense of entitlement"  bobbolink   Mar-16-11 11:21 PM   #31 
  - As a legal term it's neutral  wtmusic   Mar-16-11 10:04 PM   #9 
  - In legal parlance, sure.  RandomKoolzip   Mar-16-11 10:09 PM   #14 
  - Not the way its used now.  bobbolink   Mar-16-11 10:13 PM   #18 
  - It's the law of the jungle being brought back.  jacquelope   Mar-16-11 10:06 PM   #10 
  - Seems to me that it would be more of a left-wing term  HEyHEY   Mar-16-11 10:07 PM   #11 
  - At least "Dole" reminds people of erectile dysfunction.  RandomKoolzip   Mar-16-11 10:08 PM   #13 
     - Everything reminds me of ED  HEyHEY   Mar-16-11 10:18 PM   #22 
  - "Perfect Teabagger World"  OriginalBOBZILLA   Mar-16-11 10:14 PM   #19 
  - Not sure I'd call it that.  Dyedinthewoolliberal   Mar-16-11 10:15 PM   #21 
  - George Lakoff has some smart observations about this sort of thing...  wakemewhenitsover   Mar-16-11 10:18 PM   #23 
  - Thank you for posting that. Very clear, but I have no hope Dems will change their tune.  bobbolink   Mar-16-11 10:36 PM   #27 
     - Sadly, I agree with you.  wakemewhenitsover   Mar-16-11 11:55 PM   #35 
  - The media sets up the pins  Captain Boomerang   Mar-16-11 10:34 PM   #25 
  - The right wing PR behemoth has created all the terms the republicans  bluethruandthru   Mar-17-11 07:16 AM   #41 
  - I have noticed this too. I believe it is for propaganda purposes -- this makes the slashes  anneboleyn   Mar-16-11 10:35 PM   #26 
  - Entitlement programs usually mean you have a legal right to their benefits.  Jmaxfie1   Mar-16-11 10:46 PM   #28 
  - The new social safety net programs are the bank bailouts. nt  valerief   Mar-16-11 11:20 PM   #30 
  - since Republicans turned fascist, and Democrats turned Republican  upi402   Mar-16-11 11:23 PM   #32 
  - Yeah I like that  Autumn   Mar-17-11 07:54 AM   #43 
  - Since the GOP needed lies/propaganda to attack Social Security!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 11:29 PM   #33 
  - Reagan.  madamesilverspurs   Mar-16-11 11:38 PM   #34 
  - The most dangerous eg.of this is the innocuous sounding phrase"Entitlement Reform"  999998th word   Mar-17-11 03:26 AM   #37 
  - You want to know what the real "entitlements" are?  JDPriestly   Mar-17-11 03:14 AM   #36 
  - There's two sides to this coin  CommonSensePLZ   Mar-17-11 06:49 AM   #38 
  - If I pay into something  NHDemProg   Mar-17-11 06:51 AM   #39 
  - Since we became a 2 class society.  Vinca   Mar-17-11 06:51 AM   #40 
  - sure it's an entitlement...as in "I paid in for 35+ years, now I'm entitled  northernlights   Mar-17-11 07:41 AM   #42 
  - You have a valid point. However, we know what they did with the word "liberal", because  bobbolink   Mar-17-11 11:16 AM   #44 
  - Since karl luntz said it polled higher in focus tests  dkofos   Mar-17-11 11:26 AM   #45 
 

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