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179. Gore was popular in Florida but Jeb controlled the election...
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  -Which Democrat would you want to see run against Obama in 2012 Imagevision  Mar-16-11 09:12 AM   #0 
  - None. I'd like to see socialist Bernie Sanders run.  Shagbark Hickory   Mar-16-11 09:13 AM   #1 
  - I'm with you there. nt  NorthCarolina   Mar-16-11 09:18 AM   #13 
  - Bernie sure has the experience we need at this time...  midnight   Mar-16-11 09:20 AM   #16 
  - I would gladly vote for Bernie although I doubt that he has a chance. nt  ladjf   Mar-16-11 01:40 PM   #79 
  - Yep. Bernie totally gets it.  Zorra   Mar-16-11 09:46 AM   #27 
  - Yup. I'm not married to any party.  Ganja Ninja   Mar-16-11 09:50 AM   #29 
  - aaargh. don't wish this on my Senator. He's almost 70  cali   Mar-16-11 10:42 AM   #38 
  - He says he won't run. He supports President Obama & my money says he will support him in 2012. n/t  JTFrog   Mar-16-11 11:25 AM   #49 
  - +1000  geardaddy   Mar-16-11 11:29 AM   #51 
  - That would be a dream. I wish he would do it.  tekisui   Mar-16-11 12:03 PM   #64 
  - Bernie's my #1 pick! No one better! n/t  bluethruandthru   Mar-16-11 01:32 PM   # 
  - +1000% -- and a strong anti-war candidate for VP -- someone from outside the party --  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 02:08 PM   #106 
  - I'd go with that.  readmoreoften   Mar-16-11 02:13 PM   #109 
  - +1 Love Bernie  Lucky 13   Mar-16-11 02:41 PM   #136 
  - K&R!  Imagevision   Mar-17-11 12:09 AM   #178 
  - Lots of people having buyers remorse over Obama  center rising   Mar-16-11 03:30 PM   #161 
  - Hillary. Kucinich. Michael Moore.  closeupready   Mar-16-11 09:13 AM   #2 
  - No Hillary -- !! Hillary is part of DLC-corporate wing leadership ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:58 PM   #95 
  - Clinton wouldn't even make sense. She's part of his cabinet and part of the problem.  readmoreoften   Mar-16-11 02:14 PM   #110 
  - 0 - It would be counter-productive and end up putting a  shraby   Mar-16-11 09:13 AM   #3 
  - It would be counter-productive? - ok. so I'll just wait for Obama's; "change we can believe in"  Imagevision   Mar-16-11 09:16 AM   # 
  - That worked so great when Ted Kennedy ran against Carter  shraby   Mar-16-11 09:34 AM   #23 
  - Wasn't it the right wing who defeated Ted Kennedy, based more on Chappaquiddick ...???  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 02:00 PM   #98 
  - Mythology. Carter lost because of 18% interest rates, hostages, oil, economy.  JackRiddler   Mar-17-11 12:18 AM   #180 
  - to the left  whattheidonot   Mar-16-11 12:23 PM   #68 
  - Revolution might be better than dying a slow, horrible death by capitulation.  Zorra   Mar-16-11 10:53 AM   #42 
     - Sad to say, I am with you on this. Gov. Teabag did it for Michigan, and I think we are better off  bobbolink   Mar-16-11 01:41 PM   #80 
     - +1  readmoreoften   Mar-16-11 02:14 PM   #112 
     - +1000  Lucky 13   Mar-16-11 02:44 PM   #138 
  - anyone, and ill support them with everything i have.  meow mix   Mar-16-11 09:14 AM   #4 
  - Hmmmmm. Some liberal lion would be ideal  el_bryanto   Mar-16-11 09:15 AM   #5 
  - Zombie Eisenhower..  Fumesucker   Mar-16-11 09:15 AM   #6 
  - Yeah it sounds good; but Republicans wouldn't be threatened by his Zombie Brain eating ways. n/t  el_bryanto   Mar-16-11 09:16 AM   #7 
  - Even Zombie Ike or Reagan couldn't manage to pass that through Congress so keep dreaming and blaming  Pirate Smile   Mar-16-11 11:41 AM   #60 
  - Freddie Failure, because that's all it would be  Champion Jack   Mar-16-11 09:16 AM   #8 
  - More fantasy land.  JoePhilly   Mar-16-11 09:17 AM   #9 
  - The fantasy is thinking Obama can win without becoming a Democrat.  grahamhgreen   Mar-16-11 10:47 AM   #40 
     - Who exactly is going to beat him?  JoePhilly   Mar-16-11 11:38 AM   #57 
        - Any real democrat, imo -- but let's avoid those who are also pre-bribed and  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 02:02 PM   #101 
        - So you can't name anyone?  JoePhilly   Mar-16-11 04:44 PM   #167 
        - A sprig of Arugala could beat him at this point. He has no base. He has catered to the right, and  grahamhgreen   Mar-16-11 05:39 PM   #174 
  - Please go away...  Change Happens   Mar-16-11 09:17 AM   #10 
  - Every week some one makes this silly suggestion.  JoePhilly   Mar-16-11 11:41 AM   #59 
     - Maybe that's because the majority here support the idea.  readmoreoften   Mar-16-11 02:15 PM   #115 
        - Key words in your response ... "the majority here" ...  JoePhilly   Mar-16-11 04:42 PM   #166 
  - None. The party is already divided enough. I want to see some  MineralMan   Mar-16-11 09:18 AM   #11 
  - Ahhhh the proverbial needle of rational strategy in a haystack of 'OMG Obummer sucks ~ That's not  Pirate Smile   Mar-16-11 11:47 AM   #61 
     - Luck's not needed. Local GOTV activism is.  MineralMan   Mar-16-11 11:49 AM   #62 
  - Kucinich, Sanders (I know he's Independent)  hifiguy   Mar-16-11 09:18 AM   #12 
  - I'd like to see many  alc   Mar-16-11 09:19 AM   #14 
  - None  Lefta Dissenter   Mar-16-11 09:19 AM   #15 
  - Evan Bayh.....I'd love to see his ass thoroughly whipped  Rowdyboy   Mar-16-11 09:22 AM   #17 
  - um...the OP said Democrat  mod mom   Mar-16-11 12:05 PM   #65 
  - If you don't want to see President Romney's inauguration ....  groundloop   Mar-16-11 09:25 AM   #18 
  - Your correct...we need to stick together...  Tippy   Mar-16-11 09:32 AM   #21 
  - We have a republican now  Chris_Texas   Mar-16-11 11:02 AM   #47 
     - If you don't know the difference between Obama and the Republicans  cliffordu   Mar-16-11 11:28 AM   #50 
  - Funny that you should mention Romney.  Xithras   Mar-16-11 10:12 AM   #33 
  - The best the DLC can do for us is "Hey at least we're not Sarah Palin" ugh.... I for one  Erose999   Mar-16-11 10:51 AM   #41 
  - that is the strategy  whattheidonot   Mar-16-11 11:19 AM   #48 
  - How will that be any different from a second Obama term?  Lucian   Mar-16-11 02:35 PM   #132 
  - A Democrat  Sherman A1   Mar-16-11 09:29 AM   #19 
  - yes, that would be nice  madrchsod   Mar-16-11 09:33 AM   #22 
  - Nobody. It would be stupid - an assist to the Republicans.  Pirate Smile   Mar-16-11 09:30 AM   #20 
  - Could we possibly put up anyone that would assist Republicans more than Obama?  Bandit   Mar-16-11 10:15 AM   #34 
  - Maybe Rahmbo or Gibbs, or Lincoln. I would imagine that if the Goop wins 2012, all of the above  Erose999   Mar-16-11 10:54 AM   #44 
  - Take a look at Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio before you start acting like Democrats are the same as  Pirate Smile   Mar-16-11 11:36 AM   #54 
  - exactly!! This post sounds desperate to create problems within the Dem party.  Pisces   Mar-16-11 10:16 AM   #35 
  - I would just like to see an end to the base dumping.  mmonk   Mar-16-11 09:39 AM   #24 
  - If there is a name on my primary ballot  Coyote_Bandit   Mar-16-11 09:39 AM   #25 
  - +1  RC   Mar-16-11 09:50 AM   #30 
  - +2  leeroysphitz   Mar-16-11 11:35 AM   #53 
  - Simple fix for that...  Wait Wut   Mar-16-11 01:59 PM   #97 
  - So.................  Coyote_Bandit   Mar-16-11 02:14 PM   #111 
  - Wow.  Wait Wut   Mar-16-11 02:50 PM   #146 
  - Wouldn't work. Then they couldn't vote in the primary.  mmonk   Mar-16-11 02:14 PM   #114 
     - Apparently your civics class  Coyote_Bandit   Mar-16-11 02:30 PM   #128 
        - I am aware there are some open primary states.  mmonk   Mar-16-11 02:32 PM   #130 
           - I never said I was changing parties or that I wanted to  Coyote_Bandit   Mar-16-11 02:54 PM   #150 
              - My original reply wasn't to you.  mmonk   Mar-16-11 03:22 PM   #157 
  - +1  readmoreoften   Mar-16-11 02:15 PM   #117 
  - none. i am rooting for obama to be better. i am sure he has it in him  La Lioness Priyanka   Mar-16-11 09:40 AM   #26 
  - Rooting won't make it so. But a primary might.  Lucky 13   Mar-16-11 02:50 PM   #147 
  - Dennis.  Scuba   Mar-16-11 09:48 AM   #28 
  - I'll second that n/t  RebelOne   Mar-16-11 01:32 PM   #74 
  - Dean  LoZoccolo   Mar-16-11 09:54 AM   #31 
  - Thank you for this helpful thread  blogslut   Mar-16-11 10:01 AM   #32 
  - Susan Sarandon. But, I'll vote for any anti-war progressive..or write one in.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 10:24 AM   #36 
  - She and Tim were so helpful in 2000. Go Susan!  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 12:10 PM   #66 
     - Yes she was. Go Susan!  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 01:22 PM   #70 
        - I guess we just have different priorities.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 01:31 PM   #73 
           - Same would be true with Nader.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 01:39 PM   #78 
           - Nader could not win. Wasn't even on the ballot in all states.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 01:48 PM   #82 
           - Then why did Gore lose?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 01:52 PM   #88 
           - Yep, he did ... afterward of course he was pissed he had listened to the  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:53 PM   #90 
           - Because (partially) Celebrity Activism shifted >537 votes in the State of Florida  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 01:56 PM   #92 
           - Oh, well. I guess the left might have been worth courting.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 01:57 PM   #94 
           - Gore did win the nationwide vote by about a half of a million votes.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:02 PM   #100 
              - Then why blame Nader and the left for his loss?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 02:06 PM   #103 
                 - You can't fight a battle with both sides against you. Supporting Nader was supporting Bush  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:12 PM   #107 
                    - Then he should have courted the Nader voters.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 02:18 PM   #123 
                       - Not really. Nader voters should have had the wisdom to vote for the Democrat  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:30 PM   #127 
                          - Does that apply to the Democrats who voted for Bush?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 02:36 PM   #133 
                             - 10-13%? As in nearly every close election? Especially in far northern Florida?  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:40 PM   #134 
                                - Then it's the candidate's job to convince them to vote for him.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 02:46 PM   #140 
                                   - If you are in an election where only 2 candidates can possibly win, you vote for the one  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:48 PM   #144 
                                      - Perhaps you do.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 02:58 PM   #151 
           - And how many votes were "shifted" to Buchannan?  Ignis   Mar-16-11 02:16 PM   #118 
              - Does it matter? It further reinforces the point the Gore was popular in Florida  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:18 PM   #122 
                 - Those false Buchannan votes would also have been enough to do it.  Ignis   Mar-16-11 02:19 PM   #124 
                 - Showing support for Gore rather than a 3rd party would have made more difference  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:27 PM   #125 
                    - So would Gore using Clinton rather than shutting him out.  Ignis   Mar-16-11 02:48 PM   #142 
                       - Only needed 538 votes out of the nearly 100K  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:51 PM   #148 
                          - I don't get "the whole ballot thing would not have mattered."  Ignis   Mar-16-11 03:04 PM   #154 
                             - Because once a ballot is cast into a vote, that is it. There was no recourse.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 03:10 PM   #155 
                                - There could have been recourse. It was not pursued aggressively.  Ignis   Mar-16-11 04:23 PM   #165 
                                   - You can't get votes back that were cast in error or never cast at all  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 04:44 PM   #168 
                                      - Oh, I see your point now. But what about the "double-bubble" votes?  Ignis   Mar-16-11 04:54 PM   #169 
                                      - One side of the equation the voters could directly control  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 05:19 PM   #171 
                                      - Fair enough. As a California voter, I was OK with a 2000 Green vote.  Ignis   Mar-16-11 05:34 PM   #172 
                 - Gore was popular in Florida but Jeb controlled the election...  Imagevision   Mar-17-11 12:12 AM   #179 
           - Gore lost Florida because of Jeb Bush - do you live in a cave or what?!  Imagevision   Mar-17-11 12:33 AM   #181 
           - Unfortunately, the two party lock down is controlling everything ... to the detriment  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:52 PM   #89 
           - Exactly, we should be so lucky ... !!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:48 PM   #83 
           - Wait ... you mean Al Gore who's VP was Liebermann and whose career was  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:46 PM   #81 
              - You mean to tell me that you have no reasonable expectation that Al Gore  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 01:49 PM   #84 
                 - Better than Bush, probably -- But a "savior" or someone who would have not been  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:50 PM   #86 
                    - We lost a decade and a budget surplus because of this nonsense  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:01 PM   #99 
                       - We had a Social Security SURPLUS ... which we still have --  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 02:06 PM   #102 
                       - FY Operating Budget. Don't be obviously ignorant.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:14 PM   #113 
                          - Social Security doesn't need "saving" -- that's right wing propaganda ....  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 02:43 PM   #137 
                             - Social Security needs protecting. Using FICA funds to operate the government  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:45 PM   #139 
                                - Wow .. you're still relying on a lock box theory? Long gone ... was gone decades ago ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 02:50 PM   #145 
                                   - Theory? How about it is codified into law.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 03:03 PM   #153 
                                      - Try to understand ... if the government needs money to wage war they will  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 08:10 PM   #177 
                       - .  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:13 PM   #108 
  - In the primary, you mean? Someone who's willing to put banksters in prison  Lyric   Mar-16-11 10:40 AM   #37 
  - Any of the WI 14; Feingold/Grayson; Kucinich; DeFazio; John Lewis; Gravel; a sprig of arugala  grahamhgreen   Mar-16-11 10:46 AM   #39 
  - Sen. Bernie Sanders -- a better dem than most Democrats .. could run on Dem ticket -- !!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:55 PM   #91 
  - "a sprig of arugala"  Ignis   Mar-16-11 02:18 PM   #121 
  - Only mostly tongue in cheek...  Tom Rinaldo   Mar-16-11 10:54 AM   #43 
  - Weiner. But at this point really anyone would be fine  Chris_Texas   Mar-16-11 10:59 AM   #45 
  - If Obama runs unopposed in the primary, he will be pushed right in the general, especially if the  Erose999   Mar-16-11 11:01 AM   #46 
  - What he said. ^ +1.  Smarmie Doofus   Mar-16-11 11:32 AM   #52 
  - The weird thing is there is virtually zero criticism being openly...  Smarmie Doofus   Mar-16-11 11:40 AM   #58 
     - That's because our elected Dems are mainly in same corporate boat with Obama...!!  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:57 PM   #93 
     - I wouldn't call this administration "unsuccessful," it seems like they have met the goals of their  Erose999   Mar-16-11 01:59 PM   #96 
  - Yes. Plus a million. Without a primary candidate Obama only gets worse.  readmoreoften   Mar-16-11 02:17 PM   #119 
  - +1 and then some.  Lucky 13   Mar-16-11 02:51 PM   #149 
  - Ahahahaha....  SidDithers   Mar-16-11 11:36 AM   #55 
  - I'll do it. I need the money.  dkofos   Mar-16-11 11:37 AM   #56 
  - An ABO primary?  pintobean   Mar-16-11 12:03 PM   #63 
  - Hmm, I certainly wouldn't support any Democrat stupid enough to primary the president  Godhumor   Mar-16-11 12:10 PM   #67 
  - Bernie Sanders. He would run as an independent.  jillan   Mar-16-11 12:24 PM   #69 
  - We could call him "The no nose holding required" candidate.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-16-11 01:24 PM   #71 
  - Finegold and/or Kucinich  joeunderdog   Mar-16-11 01:29 PM   #72 
  - Would prefer someone from outside the party -- and two strong anti-war candidates ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 02:08 PM   #105 
  - RUSS FEINGOLD!!!! n/t  FourScore   Mar-16-11 01:33 PM   #75 
  - Ditto.  Little Star   Mar-16-11 01:49 PM   #85 
  - Feingold, Dean, Sanders, Grayson  mochajava666   Mar-16-11 02:15 PM   #116 
  - Bernie for President!...nt  old mark   Mar-16-11 01:33 PM   #76 
  - Sen. Bernie Sanders can run on a Dem ticket... so could Tom Hayden ...  defendandprotect   Mar-16-11 01:38 PM   #77 
  - Russ Feingold  Hubert Flottz   Mar-16-11 01:51 PM   #87 
  - BERNIE SANDERS! He's my first choice.  in_cog_ni_to   Mar-16-11 02:07 PM   #104 
  - Is there a Democrat that could run against Obama and win the general election?  onenote   Mar-16-11 02:17 PM   #120 
  - Agreed.  Jmaxfie1   Mar-16-11 03:13 PM   #156 
  - Eugene Debs  Taverner   Mar-16-11 02:28 PM   #126 
  - Lee Mercer Jr.  PBS Poll-435   Mar-16-11 02:31 PM   #129 
  - Bernie Sanders, Howard Dean, or Dennis Kucinich.  Lucian   Mar-16-11 02:34 PM   #131 
  - None, because we have Carter/Kennedy 1980 to show us  Arkana   Mar-16-11 02:41 PM   #135 
  - +1 n/t  Jmaxfie1   Mar-16-11 03:33 PM   #162 
  - Won't matter, they got my vote.  Rex   Mar-16-11 02:47 PM   #141 
  - Jimmy Carter /nt  Bragi   Mar-16-11 02:48 PM   #143 
  - None and here's why.  Jmaxfie1   Mar-16-11 02:59 PM   #152 
  - Oh good grief...  polmaven   Mar-16-11 03:23 PM   #158 
  - No one  creon   Mar-16-11 03:24 PM   #159 
  - How many experts here also thought Obama was the grestest thing since the creation of women before  LaPera   Mar-16-11 03:25 PM   #160 
  - Any. Obama is a Republican.  chaska   Mar-16-11 03:33 PM   #163 
  - LOL!  LaPera   Mar-16-11 03:36 PM   #164 
  - Anthony Weiner  Luciferous   Mar-16-11 04:57 PM   #170 
  - Gore, Dean, Al Franken, Bernie Sanders,  TNLib   Mar-16-11 05:35 PM   #173 
  - Incredible. 174 posts, and only one viable candidate was suggested.  fittosurvive   Mar-16-11 06:04 PM   #175 
  - John Lynch - Governor of New Hampshire  mia   Mar-16-11 06:15 PM   #176 
  - Al Franken. Obama has so much potential but he seems like he's paddling a boat in the middle of the  deacon   Mar-17-11 12:55 AM   #182 
  - Al Franken? n/t  ohheckyeah   Mar-17-11 12:58 AM   #183 
 

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