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| 119. Yes. Plus a million. Without a primary candidate Obama only gets worse. |
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And the only thing worse than a center-right politician is a far-right politician.
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| -Which Democrat would you want to see run against Obama in 2012 |
Imagevision |
Mar-16-11 09:12 AM |
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None. I'd like to see socialist Bernie Sanders run. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Mar-16-11 09:13 AM |
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I'm with you there. nt |
NorthCarolina |
Mar-16-11 09:18 AM |
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Bernie sure has the experience we need at this time... |
midnight |
Mar-16-11 09:20 AM |
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I would gladly vote for Bernie although I doubt that he has a chance. nt |
ladjf |
Mar-16-11 01:40 PM |
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Yep. Bernie totally gets it. |
Zorra |
Mar-16-11 09:46 AM |
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Yup. I'm not married to any party. |
Ganja Ninja |
Mar-16-11 09:50 AM |
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aaargh. don't wish this on my Senator. He's almost 70 |
cali |
Mar-16-11 10:42 AM |
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He says he won't run. He supports President Obama & my money says he will support him in 2012. n/t |
JTFrog |
Mar-16-11 11:25 AM |
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+1000 |
geardaddy |
Mar-16-11 11:29 AM |
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That would be a dream. I wish he would do it. |
tekisui |
Mar-16-11 12:03 PM |
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Bernie's my #1 pick! No one better! n/t |
bluethruandthru |
Mar-16-11 01:32 PM |
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+1000% -- and a strong anti-war candidate for VP -- someone from outside the party -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 02:08 PM |
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I'd go with that. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-16-11 02:13 PM |
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+1 Love Bernie |
Lucky 13 |
Mar-16-11 02:41 PM |
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K&R! |
Imagevision |
Mar-17-11 12:09 AM |
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Lots of people having buyers remorse over Obama |
center rising |
Mar-16-11 03:30 PM |
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Hillary. Kucinich. Michael Moore. |
closeupready |
Mar-16-11 09:13 AM |
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No Hillary -- !! Hillary is part of DLC-corporate wing leadership ... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:58 PM |
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Clinton wouldn't even make sense. She's part of his cabinet and part of the problem. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-16-11 02:14 PM |
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0 - It would be counter-productive and end up putting a |
shraby |
Mar-16-11 09:13 AM |
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It would be counter-productive? - ok. so I'll just wait for Obama's; "change we can believe in" |
Imagevision |
Mar-16-11 09:16 AM |
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That worked so great when Ted Kennedy ran against Carter |
shraby |
Mar-16-11 09:34 AM |
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Wasn't it the right wing who defeated Ted Kennedy, based more on Chappaquiddick ...??? |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 02:00 PM |
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Mythology. Carter lost because of 18% interest rates, hostages, oil, economy. |
JackRiddler |
Mar-17-11 12:18 AM |
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to the left |
whattheidonot |
Mar-16-11 12:23 PM |
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Revolution might be better than dying a slow, horrible death by capitulation. |
Zorra |
Mar-16-11 10:53 AM |
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Sad to say, I am with you on this. Gov. Teabag did it for Michigan, and I think we are better off |
bobbolink |
Mar-16-11 01:41 PM |
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+1 |
readmoreoften |
Mar-16-11 02:14 PM |
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+1000 |
Lucky 13 |
Mar-16-11 02:44 PM |
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anyone, and ill support them with everything i have. |
meow mix |
Mar-16-11 09:14 AM |
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Hmmmmm. Some liberal lion would be ideal |
el_bryanto |
Mar-16-11 09:15 AM |
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Zombie Eisenhower.. |
Fumesucker |
Mar-16-11 09:15 AM |
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Yeah it sounds good; but Republicans wouldn't be threatened by his Zombie Brain eating ways. n/t |
el_bryanto |
Mar-16-11 09:16 AM |
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Even Zombie Ike or Reagan couldn't manage to pass that through Congress so keep dreaming and blaming |
Pirate Smile |
Mar-16-11 11:41 AM |
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Freddie Failure, because that's all it would be |
Champion Jack |
Mar-16-11 09:16 AM |
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More fantasy land. |
JoePhilly |
Mar-16-11 09:17 AM |
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The fantasy is thinking Obama can win without becoming a Democrat. |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-16-11 10:47 AM |
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Who exactly is going to beat him? |
JoePhilly |
Mar-16-11 11:38 AM |
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Any real democrat, imo -- but let's avoid those who are also pre-bribed and |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 02:02 PM |
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So you can't name anyone? |
JoePhilly |
Mar-16-11 04:44 PM |
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A sprig of Arugala could beat him at this point. He has no base. He has catered to the right, and |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-16-11 05:39 PM |
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Please go away... |
Change Happens |
Mar-16-11 09:17 AM |
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Every week some one makes this silly suggestion. |
JoePhilly |
Mar-16-11 11:41 AM |
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Maybe that's because the majority here support the idea. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-16-11 02:15 PM |
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Key words in your response ... "the majority here" ... |
JoePhilly |
Mar-16-11 04:42 PM |
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None. The party is already divided enough. I want to see some |
MineralMan |
Mar-16-11 09:18 AM |
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Ahhhh the proverbial needle of rational strategy in a haystack of 'OMG Obummer sucks ~ That's not |
Pirate Smile |
Mar-16-11 11:47 AM |
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Luck's not needed. Local GOTV activism is. |
MineralMan |
Mar-16-11 11:49 AM |
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Kucinich, Sanders (I know he's Independent) |
hifiguy |
Mar-16-11 09:18 AM |
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I'd like to see many |
alc |
Mar-16-11 09:19 AM |
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None |
Lefta Dissenter |
Mar-16-11 09:19 AM |
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Evan Bayh.....I'd love to see his ass thoroughly whipped |
Rowdyboy |
Mar-16-11 09:22 AM |
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um...the OP said Democrat |
mod mom |
Mar-16-11 12:05 PM |
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If you don't want to see President Romney's inauguration .... |
groundloop |
Mar-16-11 09:25 AM |
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Your correct...we need to stick together... |
Tippy |
Mar-16-11 09:32 AM |
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We have a republican now |
Chris_Texas |
Mar-16-11 11:02 AM |
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If you don't know the difference between Obama and the Republicans |
cliffordu |
Mar-16-11 11:28 AM |
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Funny that you should mention Romney. |
Xithras |
Mar-16-11 10:12 AM |
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The best the DLC can do for us is "Hey at least we're not Sarah Palin" ugh.... I for one |
Erose999 |
Mar-16-11 10:51 AM |
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that is the strategy |
whattheidonot |
Mar-16-11 11:19 AM |
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How will that be any different from a second Obama term? |
Lucian |
Mar-16-11 02:35 PM |
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A Democrat |
Sherman A1 |
Mar-16-11 09:29 AM |
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yes, that would be nice |
madrchsod |
Mar-16-11 09:33 AM |
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Nobody. It would be stupid - an assist to the Republicans. |
Pirate Smile |
Mar-16-11 09:30 AM |
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Could we possibly put up anyone that would assist Republicans more than Obama? |
Bandit |
Mar-16-11 10:15 AM |
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Maybe Rahmbo or Gibbs, or Lincoln. I would imagine that if the Goop wins 2012, all of the above |
Erose999 |
Mar-16-11 10:54 AM |
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Take a look at Wisconsin, Michigan and Ohio before you start acting like Democrats are the same as |
Pirate Smile |
Mar-16-11 11:36 AM |
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exactly!! This post sounds desperate to create problems within the Dem party. |
Pisces |
Mar-16-11 10:16 AM |
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I would just like to see an end to the base dumping. |
mmonk |
Mar-16-11 09:39 AM |
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If there is a name on my primary ballot |
Coyote_Bandit |
Mar-16-11 09:39 AM |
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+1 |
RC |
Mar-16-11 09:50 AM |
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+2 |
leeroysphitz |
Mar-16-11 11:35 AM |
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Simple fix for that... |
Wait Wut |
Mar-16-11 01:59 PM |
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So................. |
Coyote_Bandit |
Mar-16-11 02:14 PM |
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Wow. |
Wait Wut |
Mar-16-11 02:50 PM |
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Wouldn't work. Then they couldn't vote in the primary. |
mmonk |
Mar-16-11 02:14 PM |
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Apparently your civics class |
Coyote_Bandit |
Mar-16-11 02:30 PM |
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I am aware there are some open primary states. |
mmonk |
Mar-16-11 02:32 PM |
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I never said I was changing parties or that I wanted to |
Coyote_Bandit |
Mar-16-11 02:54 PM |
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My original reply wasn't to you. |
mmonk |
Mar-16-11 03:22 PM |
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+1 |
readmoreoften |
Mar-16-11 02:15 PM |
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none. i am rooting for obama to be better. i am sure he has it in him |
La Lioness Priyanka |
Mar-16-11 09:40 AM |
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Rooting won't make it so. But a primary might. |
Lucky 13 |
Mar-16-11 02:50 PM |
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Dennis. |
Scuba |
Mar-16-11 09:48 AM |
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I'll second that n/t |
RebelOne |
Mar-16-11 01:32 PM |
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Dean |
LoZoccolo |
Mar-16-11 09:54 AM |
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Thank you for this helpful thread |
blogslut |
Mar-16-11 10:01 AM |
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Susan Sarandon. But, I'll vote for any anti-war progressive..or write one in. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 10:24 AM |
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She and Tim were so helpful in 2000. Go Susan! |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 12:10 PM |
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Yes she was. Go Susan! |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 01:22 PM |
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I guess we just have different priorities. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 01:31 PM |
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Same would be true with Nader. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 01:39 PM |
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Nader could not win. Wasn't even on the ballot in all states. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 01:48 PM |
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Then why did Gore lose? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 01:52 PM |
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Yep, he did ... afterward of course he was pissed he had listened to the |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:53 PM |
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Because (partially) Celebrity Activism shifted >537 votes in the State of Florida |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 01:56 PM |
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Oh, well. I guess the left might have been worth courting. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 01:57 PM |
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Gore did win the nationwide vote by about a half of a million votes. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:02 PM |
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Then why blame Nader and the left for his loss? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 02:06 PM |
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You can't fight a battle with both sides against you. Supporting Nader was supporting Bush |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:12 PM |
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Then he should have courted the Nader voters. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 02:18 PM |
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Not really. Nader voters should have had the wisdom to vote for the Democrat |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:30 PM |
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Does that apply to the Democrats who voted for Bush? |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 02:36 PM |
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10-13%? As in nearly every close election? Especially in far northern Florida? |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:40 PM |
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Then it's the candidate's job to convince them to vote for him. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 02:46 PM |
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If you are in an election where only 2 candidates can possibly win, you vote for the one |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:48 PM |
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Perhaps you do. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 02:58 PM |
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And how many votes were "shifted" to Buchannan? |
Ignis |
Mar-16-11 02:16 PM |
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Does it matter? It further reinforces the point the Gore was popular in Florida |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:18 PM |
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Those false Buchannan votes would also have been enough to do it. |
Ignis |
Mar-16-11 02:19 PM |
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Showing support for Gore rather than a 3rd party would have made more difference |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:27 PM |
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So would Gore using Clinton rather than shutting him out. |
Ignis |
Mar-16-11 02:48 PM |
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Only needed 538 votes out of the nearly 100K |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:51 PM |
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I don't get "the whole ballot thing would not have mattered." |
Ignis |
Mar-16-11 03:04 PM |
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Because once a ballot is cast into a vote, that is it. There was no recourse. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 03:10 PM |
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There could have been recourse. It was not pursued aggressively. |
Ignis |
Mar-16-11 04:23 PM |
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You can't get votes back that were cast in error or never cast at all |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 04:44 PM |
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Oh, I see your point now. But what about the "double-bubble" votes? |
Ignis |
Mar-16-11 04:54 PM |
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One side of the equation the voters could directly control |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 05:19 PM |
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Fair enough. As a California voter, I was OK with a 2000 Green vote. |
Ignis |
Mar-16-11 05:34 PM |
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Gore was popular in Florida but Jeb controlled the election... |
Imagevision |
Mar-17-11 12:12 AM |
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Gore lost Florida because of Jeb Bush - do you live in a cave or what?! |
Imagevision |
Mar-17-11 12:33 AM |
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Unfortunately, the two party lock down is controlling everything ... to the detriment |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:52 PM |
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Exactly, we should be so lucky ... !! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:48 PM |
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Wait ... you mean Al Gore who's VP was Liebermann and whose career was |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:46 PM |
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You mean to tell me that you have no reasonable expectation that Al Gore |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 01:49 PM |
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Better than Bush, probably -- But a "savior" or someone who would have not been |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:50 PM |
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We lost a decade and a budget surplus because of this nonsense |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:01 PM |
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We had a Social Security SURPLUS ... which we still have -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 02:06 PM |
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FY Operating Budget. Don't be obviously ignorant. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:14 PM |
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Social Security doesn't need "saving" -- that's right wing propaganda .... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 02:43 PM |
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Social Security needs protecting. Using FICA funds to operate the government |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:45 PM |
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Wow .. you're still relying on a lock box theory? Long gone ... was gone decades ago ... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 02:50 PM |
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Theory? How about it is codified into law. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 03:03 PM |
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Try to understand ... if the government needs money to wage war they will |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 08:10 PM |
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. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:13 PM |
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In the primary, you mean? Someone who's willing to put banksters in prison |
Lyric |
Mar-16-11 10:40 AM |
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Any of the WI 14; Feingold/Grayson; Kucinich; DeFazio; John Lewis; Gravel; a sprig of arugala |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-16-11 10:46 AM |
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Sen. Bernie Sanders -- a better dem than most Democrats .. could run on Dem ticket -- !! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:55 PM |
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"a sprig of arugala" |
Ignis |
Mar-16-11 02:18 PM |
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Only mostly tongue in cheek... |
Tom Rinaldo |
Mar-16-11 10:54 AM |
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Weiner. But at this point really anyone would be fine |
Chris_Texas |
Mar-16-11 10:59 AM |
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If Obama runs unopposed in the primary, he will be pushed right in the general, especially if the |
Erose999 |
Mar-16-11 11:01 AM |
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What he said. ^ +1. |
Smarmie Doofus |
Mar-16-11 11:32 AM |
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The weird thing is there is virtually zero criticism being openly... |
Smarmie Doofus |
Mar-16-11 11:40 AM |
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That's because our elected Dems are mainly in same corporate boat with Obama...!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:57 PM |
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I wouldn't call this administration "unsuccessful," it seems like they have met the goals of their |
Erose999 |
Mar-16-11 01:59 PM |
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Yes. Plus a million. Without a primary candidate Obama only gets worse. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-16-11 02:17 PM |
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+1 and then some. |
Lucky 13 |
Mar-16-11 02:51 PM |
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Ahahahaha.... |
SidDithers |
Mar-16-11 11:36 AM |
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I'll do it. I need the money. |
dkofos |
Mar-16-11 11:37 AM |
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An ABO primary? |
pintobean |
Mar-16-11 12:03 PM |
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Hmm, I certainly wouldn't support any Democrat stupid enough to primary the president |
Godhumor |
Mar-16-11 12:10 PM |
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Bernie Sanders. He would run as an independent. |
jillan |
Mar-16-11 12:24 PM |
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We could call him "The no nose holding required" candidate. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-16-11 01:24 PM |
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Finegold and/or Kucinich |
joeunderdog |
Mar-16-11 01:29 PM |
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Would prefer someone from outside the party -- and two strong anti-war candidates ... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 02:08 PM |
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RUSS FEINGOLD!!!! n/t |
FourScore |
Mar-16-11 01:33 PM |
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Ditto. |
Little Star |
Mar-16-11 01:49 PM |
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Feingold, Dean, Sanders, Grayson |
mochajava666 |
Mar-16-11 02:15 PM |
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Bernie for President!...nt |
old mark |
Mar-16-11 01:33 PM |
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Sen. Bernie Sanders can run on a Dem ticket... so could Tom Hayden ... |
defendandprotect |
Mar-16-11 01:38 PM |
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Russ Feingold |
Hubert Flottz |
Mar-16-11 01:51 PM |
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BERNIE SANDERS! He's my first choice. |
in_cog_ni_to |
Mar-16-11 02:07 PM |
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Is there a Democrat that could run against Obama and win the general election? |
onenote |
Mar-16-11 02:17 PM |
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Agreed. |
Jmaxfie1 |
Mar-16-11 03:13 PM |
#156 |
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Eugene Debs |
Taverner |
Mar-16-11 02:28 PM |
#126 |
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Lee Mercer Jr. |
PBS Poll-435 |
Mar-16-11 02:31 PM |
#129 |
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Bernie Sanders, Howard Dean, or Dennis Kucinich. |
Lucian |
Mar-16-11 02:34 PM |
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None, because we have Carter/Kennedy 1980 to show us |
Arkana |
Mar-16-11 02:41 PM |
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+1 n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
Mar-16-11 03:33 PM |
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Won't matter, they got my vote. |
Rex |
Mar-16-11 02:47 PM |
#141 |
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Jimmy Carter /nt |
Bragi |
Mar-16-11 02:48 PM |
#143 |
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None and here's why. |
Jmaxfie1 |
Mar-16-11 02:59 PM |
#152 |
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Oh good grief... |
polmaven |
Mar-16-11 03:23 PM |
#158 |
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No one |
creon |
Mar-16-11 03:24 PM |
#159 |
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How many experts here also thought Obama was the grestest thing since the creation of women before |
LaPera |
Mar-16-11 03:25 PM |
#160 |
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Any. Obama is a Republican. |
chaska |
Mar-16-11 03:33 PM |
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LOL! |
LaPera |
Mar-16-11 03:36 PM |
#164 |
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Anthony Weiner |
Luciferous |
Mar-16-11 04:57 PM |
#170 |
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Gore, Dean, Al Franken, Bernie Sanders, |
TNLib |
Mar-16-11 05:35 PM |
#173 |
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Incredible. 174 posts, and only one viable candidate was suggested. |
fittosurvive |
Mar-16-11 06:04 PM |
#175 |
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John Lynch - Governor of New Hampshire |
mia |
Mar-16-11 06:15 PM |
#176 |
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Al Franken. Obama has so much potential but he seems like he's paddling a boat in the middle of the |
deacon |
Mar-17-11 12:55 AM |
#182 |
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Al Franken? n/t |
ohheckyeah |
Mar-17-11 12:58 AM |
#183 |