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Fri Dec-24-10 12:38 PM
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| 15. Because they derive some good from the federal gov., they should |
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pay their 'fair share' that we read about that the rich people owe.
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| -How a family of four making $50,000 a year pays no federal income taxes. |
dkf |
Dec-24-10 12:00 PM |
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So who then pays taxes? |
Turbineguy |
Dec-24-10 12:07 PM |
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We'll be paying |
Missy Vixen |
Dec-24-10 12:19 PM |
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Same here |
eleny |
Dec-24-10 12:24 PM |
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We chose to have children, but they are no longer dependents |
DFW |
Dec-24-10 01:07 PM |
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The reason this happened was to keep Christian Conservatives happy |
Go2Peace |
Dec-24-10 11:09 PM |
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Agreed. Singles take it where the sun does not shine under US tax code. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-24-10 03:57 PM |
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According to IRS tables |
bbinacan |
Dec-24-10 12:55 PM |
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according to irs tables, in 2007 the top 50% of individual filers took 69.9% of all income. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 03:01 PM |
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As long as the income disparity is so wide they will continue to. You make most of the income, you |
Go2Peace |
Dec-24-10 11:11 PM |
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They do, actually. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Dec-24-10 03:25 PM |
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Trucking companies |
lefthandedlefty |
Dec-24-10 04:20 PM |
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in 2007, individual filers making under 32.4k were taxed at an average rate of 13+%, |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 12:07 PM |
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Further tax breaks in 2008 and on helped. |
dkf |
Dec-24-10 12:11 PM |
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look, you don't get it. that's 38% of HOUSEHOLDS, not 38% of TAX FILERS. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 12:23 PM |
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Penalties for being child-free and single |
Auggie |
Dec-24-10 12:17 PM |
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I know I had more disposable income when I was child-free and single. nt |
ZombieHorde |
Dec-24-10 12:55 PM |
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Blame it on the Conservatives and blue dogs |
Go2Peace |
Dec-24-10 11:14 PM |
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Yeah... and? |
tkmorris |
Dec-24-10 12:10 PM |
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The advantage of the Bush/Obama tax cuts to the middle/lower classes is that |
dkf |
Dec-24-10 12:29 PM |
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Actually lower income folks are going to see a slight increase |
Rex |
Dec-24-10 05:38 PM |
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Or they may see less of a payout from the Federal Government. . |
dkf |
Dec-24-10 08:43 PM |
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Why should they? |
Statistical |
Dec-24-10 12:22 PM |
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Because they derive some good from the federal gov., they should |
Obamanaut |
Dec-24-10 12:38 PM |
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They are paying their fair share. Federal income taxes is just one small portion of taxation. |
Statistical |
Dec-24-10 12:40 PM |
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What, no outcry for them to pay their 'fair share'? No federal income tax liability at |
Obamanaut |
Dec-24-10 12:25 PM |
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Where do you get this idea there is "no tax liability"? |
Statistical |
Dec-24-10 12:28 PM |
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That is precisely why I edited the post to read "federal tax liability" as soon as I |
Obamanaut |
Dec-24-10 12:35 PM |
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Which is an utterly meaningless statistic. |
Statistical |
Dec-24-10 12:44 PM |
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I hate it when income taxes are examined in a vacuum. |
Chemical Bill |
Dec-24-10 04:03 PM |
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And remember, most of those taxes are deductable if you itemize |
notadmblnd |
Dec-24-10 12:50 PM |
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In 2007 the 70 million individual filers making under $32.4K paid income taxes at an average rate of |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 12:32 PM |
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Why is the IRS so behind in calculating these numbers for 2008 and 2009? |
dkf |
Dec-24-10 01:05 PM |
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I don't get this "not very different " |
toastbutter |
Dec-24-10 01:07 PM |
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um, because $458K is 1431% higher than 32K? and the tax increase is 53%? |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 01:32 PM |
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Tax code has always taxes at a fraction of a % for every $1,000 of income. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-24-10 04:05 PM |
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if the tax increase was 1431% |
toastbutter |
Dec-24-10 05:10 PM |
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Agree. nt. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-24-10 05:34 PM |
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it's insignificant in terms of historical rates. in 1994 the top effective rate was 26%. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 10:11 PM |
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Great |
toastbutter |
Dec-24-10 10:43 PM |
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it's insignificant. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 10:43 PM |
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Don't forget about the drop in capital gains, most of which benefits the wealthy |
Go2Peace |
Dec-24-10 11:19 PM |
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the stats = total effective rate (includes cap gains) |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 11:59 PM |
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dupe |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 10:42 PM |
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To paraphrase... |
toastbutter |
Dec-24-10 10:44 PM |
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i don't think you know what 1431% v. 50% means. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 10:46 PM |
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as a single guy making much less, I am not happy about it |
hfojvt |
Dec-24-10 01:03 PM |
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Those "other people's kids" will one day be paying your Social Security. You should be kissing their |
cottonseed |
Dec-24-10 03:14 PM |
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Providing them with a free K-12 education isn't enough?! Each |
WestSeattle2 |
Dec-26-10 11:04 AM |
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I have always viewed tax credits and workplace privileges for |
bluestate10 |
Dec-24-10 04:10 PM |
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Politics and math. Conservatives "values" along with huge income disparity |
Go2Peace |
Dec-24-10 11:16 PM |
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Remember, throughout the year they are paying federal taxes on their pay |
LynneSin |
Dec-24-10 01:14 PM |
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If they pay a small amount in increments to get a larger return, or a larger |
Obamanaut |
Dec-25-10 05:05 AM |
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I have never grossed 50k in my life and I have NET paid EVERY YEAR of my life that I worked. |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-24-10 03:32 PM |
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I don't know what system would work. |
bluestate10 |
Dec-24-10 04:38 PM |
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Yeah, some folks are too focused on eating regularly and decently or having a place to sleep. |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-24-10 11:03 PM |
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No, don't you get it? |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-24-10 11:51 PM |
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The fly in the ointment when it comes to "tax-talk" is this.. |
SoCalDem |
Dec-24-10 03:52 PM |
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one of the docs i work with was an anti-tax winger. he went to denmark in a |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-24-10 04:12 PM |
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appreciate your rational explanation |
handmade34 |
Dec-24-10 04:22 PM |
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Some of the 'services' we get are lots of tanks and bombs |
DebJ |
Dec-24-10 11:21 PM |
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We are on SSDI and also work part time |
Hawkeye-X |
Dec-24-10 04:32 PM |
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My son is in the same position; I understand completely. |
DebJ |
Dec-24-10 11:29 PM |
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I'm strongly opposed to this |
taught_me_patience |
Dec-24-10 05:30 PM |
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they probably pay at least $4000 in FICA and maybe a few thousand in state income/property taxes |
CreekDog |
Dec-24-10 05:39 PM |
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Depending on where you live that ranges from not a lot to almost poverty. |
Pavulon |
Dec-24-10 11:09 PM |
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$50,000 is at the bottom of the middle class where I live |
slackmaster |
Dec-24-10 11:40 PM |
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median means half the families of four make more, half make less. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-25-10 12:58 AM |
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I've never in my life seen middle class defined in terms of median income |
slackmaster |
Dec-26-10 10:36 AM |
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