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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-24-10 12:19 PM
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6. We'll be paying
After all, we chose not to have children.

Yaaaay! :woohoo:
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  -How a family of four making $50,000 a year pays no federal income taxes. dkf  Dec-24-10 12:00 PM   #0 
  - So who then pays taxes?  Turbineguy   Dec-24-10 12:07 PM   #1 
  - We'll be paying  Missy Vixen   Dec-24-10 12:19 PM   #6 
  - Same here  eleny   Dec-24-10 12:24 PM   #9 
  - We chose to have children, but they are no longer dependents  DFW   Dec-24-10 01:07 PM   #24 
  - The reason this happened was to keep Christian Conservatives happy  Go2Peace   Dec-24-10 11:09 PM   #54 
  - Agreed. Singles take it where the sun does not shine under US tax code.  bluestate10   Dec-24-10 03:57 PM   #32 
  - According to IRS tables  bbinacan   Dec-24-10 12:55 PM   #19 
  - according to irs tables, in 2007 the top 50% of individual filers took 69.9% of all income.  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 03:01 PM   #27 
  - As long as the income disparity is so wide they will continue to. You make most of the income, you  Go2Peace   Dec-24-10 11:11 PM   #56 
  - They do, actually.  lumberjack_jeff   Dec-24-10 03:25 PM   #29 
  - Trucking companies  lefthandedlefty   Dec-24-10 04:20 PM   #37 
  - in 2007, individual filers making under 32.4k were taxed at an average rate of 13+%,  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 12:07 PM   #2 
  - Further tax breaks in 2008 and on helped.  dkf   Dec-24-10 12:11 PM   #4 
  - look, you don't get it. that's 38% of HOUSEHOLDS, not 38% of TAX FILERS.  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 12:23 PM   #8 
  - Penalties for being child-free and single  Auggie   Dec-24-10 12:17 PM   #5 
     - I know I had more disposable income when I was child-free and single. nt  ZombieHorde   Dec-24-10 12:55 PM   #20 
     - Blame it on the Conservatives and blue dogs  Go2Peace   Dec-24-10 11:14 PM   #57 
  - Yeah... and?  tkmorris   Dec-24-10 12:10 PM   #3 
  - The advantage of the Bush/Obama tax cuts to the middle/lower classes is that  dkf   Dec-24-10 12:29 PM   #12 
     - Actually lower income folks are going to see a slight increase  Rex   Dec-24-10 05:38 PM   #44 
        - Or they may see less of a payout from the Federal Government. .  dkf   Dec-24-10 08:43 PM   #46 
  - Why should they?  Statistical   Dec-24-10 12:22 PM   #7 
  - Because they derive some good from the federal gov., they should  Obamanaut   Dec-24-10 12:38 PM   #15 
     - They are paying their fair share. Federal income taxes is just one small portion of taxation.  Statistical   Dec-24-10 12:40 PM   #16 
  - What, no outcry for them to pay their 'fair share'? No federal income tax liability at  Obamanaut   Dec-24-10 12:25 PM   #10 
  - Where do you get this idea there is "no tax liability"?  Statistical   Dec-24-10 12:28 PM   #11 
  - That is precisely why I edited the post to read "federal tax liability" as soon as I  Obamanaut   Dec-24-10 12:35 PM   #14 
  - Which is an utterly meaningless statistic.  Statistical   Dec-24-10 12:44 PM   #17 
     - I hate it when income taxes are examined in a vacuum.  Chemical Bill   Dec-24-10 04:03 PM   #33 
  - And remember, most of those taxes are deductable if you itemize  notadmblnd   Dec-24-10 12:50 PM   #18 
  - In 2007 the 70 million individual filers making under $32.4K paid income taxes at an average rate of  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 12:32 PM   #13 
  - Why is the IRS so behind in calculating these numbers for 2008 and 2009?  dkf   Dec-24-10 01:05 PM   #22 
  - I don't get this "not very different "  toastbutter   Dec-24-10 01:07 PM   #23 
     - um, because $458K is 1431% higher than 32K? and the tax increase is 53%?  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 01:32 PM   #26 
        - Tax code has always taxes at a fraction of a % for every $1,000 of income.  bluestate10   Dec-24-10 04:05 PM   #34 
        - if the tax increase was 1431%  toastbutter   Dec-24-10 05:10 PM   #41 
           - Agree. nt.  bluestate10   Dec-24-10 05:34 PM   #43 
           - it's insignificant in terms of historical rates. in 1994 the top effective rate was 26%.  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 10:11 PM   #47 
           - Great  toastbutter   Dec-24-10 10:43 PM   #49 
           - it's insignificant.  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 10:43 PM   #50 
           - Don't forget about the drop in capital gains, most of which benefits the wealthy  Go2Peace   Dec-24-10 11:19 PM   #59 
              - the stats = total effective rate (includes cap gains)  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 11:59 PM   #64 
           - dupe  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 10:42 PM   #48 
              - To paraphrase...  toastbutter   Dec-24-10 10:44 PM   #51 
                 - i don't think you know what 1431% v. 50% means.  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 10:46 PM   #52 
  - as a single guy making much less, I am not happy about it  hfojvt   Dec-24-10 01:03 PM   #21 
  - Those "other people's kids" will one day be paying your Social Security. You should be kissing their  cottonseed   Dec-24-10 03:14 PM   #28 
  - Providing them with a free K-12 education isn't enough?! Each  WestSeattle2   Dec-26-10 11:04 AM   #68 
  - I have always viewed tax credits and workplace privileges for  bluestate10   Dec-24-10 04:10 PM   #35 
  - Politics and math. Conservatives "values" along with huge income disparity  Go2Peace   Dec-24-10 11:16 PM   #58 
  - Remember, throughout the year they are paying federal taxes on their pay  LynneSin   Dec-24-10 01:14 PM   #25 
  - If they pay a small amount in increments to get a larger return, or a larger  Obamanaut   Dec-25-10 05:05 AM   #66 
  - I have never grossed 50k in my life and I have NET paid EVERY YEAR of my life that I worked.  TheKentuckian   Dec-24-10 03:32 PM   #30 
  - I don't know what system would work.  bluestate10   Dec-24-10 04:38 PM   #40 
     - Yeah, some folks are too focused on eating regularly and decently or having a place to sleep.  TheKentuckian   Dec-24-10 11:03 PM   #53 
        - No, don't you get it?  Foo Fighter   Dec-24-10 11:51 PM   #63 
  - The fly in the ointment when it comes to "tax-talk" is this..  SoCalDem   Dec-24-10 03:52 PM   #31 
  - one of the docs i work with was an anti-tax winger. he went to denmark in a  Hannah Bell   Dec-24-10 04:12 PM   #36 
  - appreciate your rational explanation  handmade34   Dec-24-10 04:22 PM   #38 
  - Some of the 'services' we get are lots of tanks and bombs  DebJ   Dec-24-10 11:21 PM   #60 
  - We are on SSDI and also work part time  Hawkeye-X   Dec-24-10 04:32 PM   #39 
  - My son is in the same position; I understand completely.  DebJ   Dec-24-10 11:29 PM   #61 
  - I'm strongly opposed to this  taught_me_patience   Dec-24-10 05:30 PM   #42 
  - they probably pay at least $4000 in FICA and maybe a few thousand in state income/property taxes  CreekDog   Dec-24-10 05:39 PM   #45 
  - Depending on where you live that ranges from not a lot to almost poverty.  Pavulon   Dec-24-10 11:09 PM   #55 
  - $50,000 is at the bottom of the middle class where I live  slackmaster   Dec-24-10 11:40 PM   #62 
     - median means half the families of four make more, half make less.  Hannah Bell   Dec-25-10 12:58 AM   #65 
        - I've never in my life seen middle class defined in terms of median income  slackmaster   Dec-26-10 10:36 AM   #67 

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