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Mon Mar-14-11 04:38 PM
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| Before I will consider any arguments from Charter School advocates |
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Before I will consider any arguments from Charter School advocates, I want to know how many special ed kids they accept.
Are they taking the little girl with spina bifida?
The little boy with cerebral palsy?
Cognitavely disabled kids?
Learning disabled kids?
If not, get out of my face.
(Original OP was locked by mods. My apologies for abusive language.)
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| -Before I will consider any arguments from Charter School advocates |
Scuba |
Mar-14-11 04:38 PM |
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k&r |
Starry Messenger |
Mar-14-11 04:42 PM |
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Again, are all Charter Schools the same? |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 04:45 PM |
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What can charter schools do that public schools cannot do? |
RC |
Mar-14-11 04:52 PM |
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Charter schools ARE public schools. |
alstephenson |
Mar-14-11 04:53 PM |
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KIPP is a public school system? Really? Or does just using our tax money up count now? |
readmoreoften |
Mar-14-11 05:03 PM |
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Yes, the KIPP charter schools are PUBLIC schools. |
alstephenson |
Mar-14-11 06:50 PM |
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Public schools that don't admit all |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-14-11 08:09 PM |
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OK, then - - |
RC |
Mar-15-11 09:03 AM |
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In this case, charter schools can give kids a diploma |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 04:57 PM |
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It's all about choice. |
alstephenson |
Mar-14-11 06:52 PM |
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Kick out disruptive and/or noncompliant students... |
FLyellowdog |
Mar-14-11 05:03 PM |
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When profit becomes the motive, kids lose. |
louis-t |
Mar-14-11 05:21 PM |
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I wouldn't think they'd keep that salary. |
FLyellowdog |
Mar-15-11 01:23 AM |
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In Rhode Island, all charter schools are non-profit by law |
hack89 |
Mar-14-11 08:00 PM |
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Not a bad idea. Not so here in FL. |
FLyellowdog |
Mar-15-11 01:17 AM |
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I feel the same way, CofM. |
alstephenson |
Mar-14-11 04:52 PM |
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I'm glad I'm not the only one! |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 05:03 PM |
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Good for you |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-14-11 09:05 PM |
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There is a great deal of diversity among charter schools |
ProgressiveProfessor |
Mar-14-11 05:43 PM |
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That is helpful |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 05:47 PM |
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How do you feel about school vouchers? |
DURHAM D |
Mar-14-11 04:45 PM |
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It costs far more to teach special ed kids. If vouchers could somehow... |
Scuba |
Mar-14-11 04:49 PM |
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Nothing. |
DURHAM D |
Mar-14-11 04:56 PM |
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No it doesn't |
fedupinBushcountry |
Mar-14-11 06:12 PM |
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actually special ed teachers are often paid via federal money |
dsc |
Mar-14-11 09:10 PM |
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True and not true. |
FLyellowdog |
Mar-15-11 01:30 AM |
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In your face? |
LoZoccolo |
Mar-14-11 04:48 PM |
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I freakin' love that! |
Phentex |
Mar-14-11 04:57 PM |
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Yes, actually, they do... |
JuniperLea |
Mar-14-11 04:51 PM |
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Charter schools plunder the Treasury. nt |
valerief |
Mar-14-11 04:51 PM |
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Goalpost moving should require an new OP... eom |
JuniperLea |
Mar-14-11 04:56 PM |
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Please explain. I'm not familiar with "goalpost moving". |
Scuba |
Mar-14-11 04:58 PM |
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Don't worry, neither is she. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-14-11 05:05 PM |
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When the goal in an argument is moved... |
JuniperLea |
Mar-14-11 05:25 PM |
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Don't use terminology that you don't understand. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-14-11 05:05 PM |
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+1 |
readmoreoften |
Mar-14-11 05:04 PM |
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Using the same logic, so do public schools. |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-14-11 10:15 PM |
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Public schools are not for-profit like charter schools. nt |
valerief |
Mar-15-11 10:37 PM |
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In my area, troubled kids who are under-served by public schools are the primary focus... |
Ian David |
Mar-14-11 04:55 PM |
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My daughter teaches at a charter school |
RebelOne |
Mar-14-11 04:57 PM |
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I bet she doesn't make $125,000 a year either... |
JuniperLea |
Mar-14-11 05:26 PM |
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Not an advocate but the answer is 8%, state average is 12%... |
Phentex |
Mar-14-11 04:59 PM |
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Amen, brother--and no one has responded with anything verifiable yet. |
blondeatlast |
Mar-14-11 05:02 PM |
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An hour has passed.... |
Starry Messenger |
Mar-14-11 05:39 PM |
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Answering the OP's question would violate FERPA laws |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 05:48 PM |
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These are yes/no questions. How does that violate FERPA? |
Scuba |
Mar-14-11 05:58 PM |
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OK, let me try |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 06:01 PM |
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I didn't see the OP specify names be made public--statistics will do just fine-- |
blondeatlast |
Mar-14-11 06:01 PM |
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8% of a local public charter is special ed... |
Phentex |
Mar-14-11 06:05 PM |
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Statistics from what? One school? City? County? State? All Combined? |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 06:08 PM |
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I answered for one but the google post (in your face) had many... |
Phentex |
Mar-14-11 06:09 PM |
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Thanks, and I saw your other post |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 06:12 PM |
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Here's something that won't violate any laws--is this charter receiving taxpayer money? |
blondeatlast |
Mar-14-11 06:11 PM |
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The one I'm talking about? Yes, it receives taxpayer money as a public school |
City of Mills |
Mar-14-11 06:15 PM |
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Check out the laws governing education in Rhode Island |
hack89 |
Mar-14-11 07:57 PM |
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I just got home from a long day in my special ed class.... |
Snoutport |
Mar-14-11 05:53 PM |
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One article - may not be totally up to charter schools |
The Straight Story |
Mar-14-11 06:01 PM |
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that is the point... |
Phentex |
Mar-14-11 06:07 PM |
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Here is another article: |
The Straight Story |
Mar-14-11 06:03 PM |
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Here are some numbers for one area (% in charters less than public here) |
The Straight Story |
Mar-14-11 06:04 PM |
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Thanks for posting. Sounds like Arkansas public schools... |
Scuba |
Mar-14-11 06:07 PM |
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NO Taxpayer Money for Private (Charter) Schools, |
bvar22 |
Mar-14-11 06:06 PM |
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What the masked guy said! /\ |
blondeatlast |
Mar-14-11 06:10 PM |
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Sorry, but charter schools are NOT private schools. |
alstephenson |
Mar-14-11 06:59 PM |
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No THEY ARE NOT..period |
fascisthunter |
Mar-14-11 07:01 PM |
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They are NOT "Public Schools". |
bvar22 |
Mar-14-11 07:38 PM |
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I guess you don't know what a public school is. |
alstephenson |
Mar-14-11 08:09 PM |
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Not in Arizona; they receive a boatload of my tax money and I don't approve of it. nt |
blondeatlast |
Mar-14-11 08:17 PM |
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We've taken kids who spent K-8 |
noamnety |
Mar-14-11 06:10 PM |
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Not to mention the ones who are just plain old behavioral issues |
Nevernose |
Mar-14-11 06:12 PM |
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Kick |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-14-11 06:17 PM |
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The charter I taught at accepted a large amount of special ed + IEP kids. |
rucky |
Mar-14-11 06:17 PM |
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It takes some pretty thin skin to think |
pintobean |
Mar-14-11 06:35 PM |
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They will find a way to tap |
mstinamotorcity |
Mar-14-11 06:39 PM |
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Florida has the McKay Scholarships for Students with Disabilities Program |
mia |
Mar-14-11 07:20 PM |
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In Rhode Island they would - because charter schools are public schools. |
hack89 |
Mar-14-11 07:54 PM |
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In this area, most of them - no. A few - yes, until they get kicked out. |
proud2BlibKansan |
Mar-14-11 08:06 PM |
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"Kicked out" being the operative phrase--at the first sign of trouble, |
blondeatlast |
Mar-14-11 08:19 PM |
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