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Mon Mar-14-11 12:22 AM
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| 52. No. He said he had been assured by the Pentagram that the treatment |
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was appropriate.
Which is the same thing George Bush said about torture -- that someone else told him is was okay.
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| -Straight up...do YOU believe that Bradley Manning deserves this treatment? |
Ken Burch |
Mar-13-11 11:19 PM |
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No and Hell No...He's not been convincted of anything. n/t |
whathehell |
Mar-13-11 11:21 PM |
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there is a very well known murder case.... |
Clio the Leo |
Mar-14-11 12:16 AM |
#48 |
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This isn't about "sleeping nude"! |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 02:08 AM |
#102 |
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What was his name? |
whathehell |
Mar-14-11 02:31 AM |
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No. A million times NO. |
emilyg |
Mar-13-11 11:22 PM |
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I don't believe any human deserves that treatment |
OneHalfNote |
Mar-13-11 11:23 PM |
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I think he deserves a medal and a statue on the D.C. Mall for public service. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Mar-13-11 11:23 PM |
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OT somewhat, but Daniel Ellsburg has famously said that we will |
coalition_unwilling |
Mar-14-11 05:01 PM |
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No. Of course not. |
NoTimeToulouse |
Mar-13-11 11:23 PM |
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he has access to legal counsel, and has had access for quite some time- |
Bluerthanblue |
Mar-13-11 11:39 PM |
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Mere detainment isn't the issue, it's the *treatment*. The nudity without the benefit of |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 02:16 AM |
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did you read the link to information from his own attorney? |
Bluerthanblue |
Mar-14-11 07:34 AM |
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I get my "claims" from reading about his treatment. |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 06:27 PM |
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the articles you cite are fine .. but |
Bluerthanblue |
Mar-14-11 08:47 PM |
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I was unaware that there are prison sentences of "life in solitary". Have we sunk THAT far? |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 09:06 PM |
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Please see my post at #102 for updated info. The info you gave is from 12/10. |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 09:16 PM |
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NO |
jwirr |
Mar-13-11 11:23 PM |
#6 |
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No |
Canuckistanian |
Mar-13-11 11:25 PM |
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Not just no.........FUCK NO. |
CaliforniaPeggy |
Mar-13-11 11:25 PM |
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No! Due process without torture. nt |
madmax |
Mar-13-11 11:25 PM |
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No, no one does whether or not they have already been found guilty |
csziggy |
Mar-13-11 11:27 PM |
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No. I will not be voting for Obama in 2012 because of this issue - n/t |
coalition_unwilling |
Mar-13-11 11:28 PM |
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NO - his treatment is an abomination |
BillyJack |
Mar-13-11 11:29 PM |
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NO! |
Poll_Blind |
Mar-13-11 11:29 PM |
#13 |
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No. |
Gemini Cat |
Mar-13-11 11:30 PM |
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Apparently by minimizing torturous acts as though it's just another day in the Mayberry jail. |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 02:21 AM |
#106 |
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No. Not under any circumstances. |
1monster |
Mar-13-11 11:31 PM |
#15 |
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NO!! |
Maraya1969 |
Mar-13-11 11:34 PM |
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NO! Completely disagree with torture -- nation has always disagree with it -- so has military!! |
defendandprotect |
Mar-13-11 11:37 PM |
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Under no circumstances is torture acceptable. |
Dawson Leery |
Mar-13-11 11:38 PM |
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He absolutely does not! Nobody deserves such treatment, |
kas125 |
Mar-13-11 11:38 PM |
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no |
Snoutport |
Mar-13-11 11:38 PM |
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NO! |
slay |
Mar-13-11 11:41 PM |
#22 |
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NO! |
Joe Bacon |
Mar-13-11 11:41 PM |
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Who? Obama doesn't know what's going on. |
Mimosa |
Mar-13-11 11:50 PM |
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Well that's what happens to treasoners |
BluegrassDem |
Mar-13-11 11:42 PM |
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Manning didn't commit treason, he most likely EXPOSED the treason of others. |
BillyJack |
Mar-13-11 11:46 PM |
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Prove treason. Presumption of innocence. |
Hissyspit |
Mar-13-11 11:48 PM |
#28 |
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Didn't he admit to doing it? |
Shiver |
Mar-14-11 02:31 AM |
#110 |
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Chat logs were released. They could be forged. |
Hissyspit |
Mar-14-11 03:06 AM |
#116 |
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Congratulations! You've just endorsed the use of torture as an |
coalition_unwilling |
Mar-13-11 11:59 PM |
#37 |
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And mine. |
dixiegrrrrl |
Mar-14-11 11:35 AM |
#124 |
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And mine. |
Hong Kong Cavalier |
Mar-14-11 03:07 PM |
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Have you checked to make sure you know the definition of "treasoner"? |
EFerrari |
Mar-14-11 12:21 AM |
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You mean they took away Harry Treasoner's underwear at night? |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:53 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Mar-14-11 02:01 AM |
#100 |
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Really? So Cheney, Rove and Scooter Libby who outed a covert |
walldude |
Mar-14-11 08:17 AM |
#123 |
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You'll have your fair trial and then be shot! |
neverforget |
Mar-14-11 03:12 PM |
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Dude... that's not even a word. nt. |
druidity33 |
Mar-14-11 06:29 PM |
#170 |
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No. |
midnight |
Mar-13-11 11:44 PM |
#25 |
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No. |
pinkkillersheep |
Mar-13-11 11:46 PM |
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Hey if you were Manning or a prisoner in Guantanemo (sp?) or just |
BillyJack |
Mar-13-11 11:59 PM |
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I do care and would be more than willing to fight for his legal rights. |
pinkkillersheep |
Mar-14-11 12:38 AM |
#69 |
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Yes. Obama answered this question straight up. |
hardcover |
Mar-13-11 11:50 PM |
#29 |
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And Obama wouldn't lie to us, would he? |
Mimosa |
Mar-13-11 11:51 PM |
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No. He said he had been assured by the Pentagram that the treatment |
EFerrari |
Mar-14-11 12:22 AM |
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You trust him when he says people DESERVE to be persecuted? |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:54 AM |
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Is that you, Brittney? |
PassingFair |
Mar-14-11 08:09 AM |
#120 |
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no! |
shanti |
Mar-13-11 11:50 PM |
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Nope. And I don't see this as a progressive administration. |
Lucinda |
Mar-13-11 11:51 PM |
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Yes, |
Hamlette |
Mar-13-11 11:53 PM |
#34 |
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Manning’s Father Condemns Treatment of Imprisoned Son |
EFerrari |
Mar-14-11 12:25 AM |
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the article cherry picks the interview and its title is completely misleading |
Hamlette |
Mar-14-11 02:15 AM |
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I don't know how he's being treated |
veganlush |
Mar-13-11 11:58 PM |
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That is right. We don't know. I'm not going to take the word of a lawyer or a distraught father |
hardcover |
Mar-14-11 12:08 AM |
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The Pentagon already copped to it. Try again. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-14-11 12:34 AM |
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+1 |
chill_wind |
Mar-14-11 01:11 AM |
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Copped to what? That he is on suicide watch? |
Travelman |
Mar-14-11 12:06 PM |
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They take his shorts away at night. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:13 AM |
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The Army ADMITTED they take his underwear away at night. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:51 AM |
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But you'd take the word of the military-industrial complex? |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:55 AM |
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No, absolutely not! |
ananda |
Mar-13-11 11:59 PM |
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Hell No! |
DeSwiss |
Mar-13-11 11:59 PM |
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Deleted message |
Name removed |
Mar-14-11 12:03 AM |
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Oh give me a break......boooyah for the "sleep suit" |
BillyJack |
Mar-14-11 12:08 AM |
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Even that story has falsehood in it. He NEVER had to be naked. He was allowed to keep his shorts on. |
hardcover |
Mar-14-11 12:14 AM |
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Really? First Lt Brian Villiard states the brig commander decided otherwise. |
chill_wind |
Mar-14-11 12:43 AM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Mar-14-11 12:36 AM |
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He shouldn't be on suicide watch at all |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:49 AM |
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Yes, there is a good reason not to have his trial immediately. |
Travelman |
Mar-14-11 12:26 PM |
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You've already convicted him in your mind |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 02:58 PM |
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Well, first you need to get your shit straight |
Travelman |
Mar-14-11 03:29 PM |
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You can't really compare Bradley Manning to Jared Loughner |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 03:38 PM |
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You called him a traitor. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 03:39 PM |
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"Secrecy never helps the people." |
Travelman |
Mar-14-11 03:59 PM |
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Secrecy in GOVERNMENT...personal secrecy is different. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 04:03 PM |
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Oh. So now it's just government secrecy. |
Travelman |
Mar-14-11 04:46 PM |
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All weaponry instructions are available by now anyway. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 05:03 PM |
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An apology because he now wears a dorky green potato sack?! |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 02:30 AM |
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Hell No |
bahrbearian |
Mar-14-11 12:06 AM |
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I think of it like this |
Zanzoobar |
Mar-14-11 12:07 AM |
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Nope - he wasn't "taken to the bank" |
BillyJack |
Mar-14-11 12:17 AM |
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'splain, Ricky. |
Zanzoobar |
Mar-14-11 12:29 AM |
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That is the most ignorant shit I've heard on DU... |
johnroshan |
Mar-14-11 12:40 AM |
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Good luck changing military protocol |
Zanzoobar |
Mar-14-11 12:45 AM |
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"he jumped into a meat grinder"? that's a pretty despicable thing to say |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:58 AM |
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To be honest, there's stuff going on we may not know about. |
cecilfirefox |
Mar-14-11 12:14 AM |
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Finally, someone who makes sense. Except for the naked part. He was not naked. |
hardcover |
Mar-14-11 12:17 AM |
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Yes, they are using forced nudity on him, just like in Abu Graib. |
EFerrari |
Mar-14-11 12:32 AM |
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Will you stop the insistent bull---t already? |
chill_wind |
Mar-14-11 01:29 AM |
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The Army ADMITTED they took away his underwear at night. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:50 AM |
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The army ADMITTED they took his underwear STOP LYING. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:59 AM |
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Planet earth calling... |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 02:36 AM |
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"I really wish folks would stop treating him like a hero." |
Clio the Leo |
Mar-14-11 12:25 AM |
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Even if the only thing he'd leaked was the video |
EFerrari |
Mar-14-11 12:29 AM |
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Punitive pre-trial detention is illegal in this country. n/t |
EFerrari |
Mar-14-11 12:26 AM |
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How utterly asinine |
Travelman |
Mar-14-11 12:13 PM |
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"The man is a criminal" you say. |
BillyJack |
Mar-14-11 12:29 AM |
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I do believe in that concept, BUT |
cecilfirefox |
Mar-14-11 12:32 AM |
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It's not just a "concept", it's the law. |
EFerrari |
Mar-14-11 12:38 AM |
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He isn't a "criminal" unless he's actually been convicted of a crime. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 01:47 AM |
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No |
jannyk |
Mar-14-11 12:15 AM |
#47 |
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No. |
steve2470 |
Mar-14-11 12:24 AM |
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hell no |
libodem |
Mar-14-11 12:29 AM |
#57 |
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Hell no!!! |
Raksha |
Mar-14-11 12:30 AM |
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No. And I don't give a flying fuck if it's a mlitary court |
themadstork |
Mar-14-11 12:31 AM |
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I was in the military |
Zanzoobar |
Mar-14-11 12:42 AM |
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I mainly meant the way |
themadstork |
Mar-14-11 01:25 PM |
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No. The unhumane treatment of Bradley Manning goes beyond the degrading forced nudity |
chill_wind |
Mar-14-11 12:32 AM |
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No..he hasn't even been tried or convicted yet, but no, he doesn't deserve to be tortured! |
krabigirl |
Mar-14-11 12:34 AM |
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Absolutely not. n/t |
Unvanguard |
Mar-14-11 12:38 AM |
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No. |
highplainsdem |
Mar-14-11 12:40 AM |
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It is shameful. But the plutarchy can't have peasants exposing |
Zorra |
Mar-14-11 12:43 AM |
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No, he does not |
Oilwellian |
Mar-14-11 12:45 AM |
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I feel like I don't know what is going on. |
ZombieHorde |
Mar-14-11 01:10 AM |
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Absolutely not! |
timtom |
Mar-14-11 01:15 AM |
#82 |
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Absolutely not. n/t |
Beam Me Up |
Mar-14-11 01:21 AM |
#83 |
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Absolutely Not! nt |
Raine |
Mar-14-11 01:29 AM |
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Not even if he's guilty of leaking the docs. |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-14-11 01:29 AM |
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No! No excuses |
donheld |
Mar-14-11 01:39 AM |
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No |
Electric Monk |
Mar-14-11 01:40 AM |
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Of course not, only a very few people here do. |
Rex |
Mar-14-11 01:51 AM |
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That's not my experience |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 02:00 AM |
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From your own thread, the 'nos' seem to have it. |
Rex |
Mar-14-11 04:05 AM |
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Agreed, torture has only a handful of supporters on DU |
Bragi |
Mar-14-11 08:01 AM |
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"torture has only a handful of supporters on DU"? |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 03:02 PM |
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I'm glad this response is happening in this thread |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 02:35 PM |
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Me too! /nt |
Bragi |
Mar-14-11 03:05 PM |
#137 |
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No. The treatment is criminal regardless of Manning's guilt. |
PufPuf23 |
Mar-14-11 02:06 AM |
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Yes, this. Our government is bound by the principles of human decency, |
themadstork |
Mar-14-11 01:21 PM |
#130 |
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No. It's ahuman rights abuse |
Betty Karlson |
Mar-14-11 02:19 AM |
#105 |
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No. Deserves a medal instead and a promotion. n/t |
Duende azul |
Mar-14-11 02:25 AM |
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I don't believe ANYONE deserves such treatment |
TorchTheWitch |
Mar-14-11 02:26 AM |
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No. I used to think only backward-thinking third-world countries would stoop so low. |
pacalo |
Mar-14-11 02:43 AM |
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I used to believe we weren't a backward-thinking, third-world country. n/t |
gkhouston |
Mar-14-11 01:35 PM |
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I do not think that anyone deserves the treatment that Bradley Manning |
JDPriestly |
Mar-14-11 02:48 AM |
#114 |
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NO! |
burrowowl |
Mar-14-11 02:52 AM |
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Absolutely NOT! |
mod mom |
Mar-14-11 08:12 AM |
#121 |
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NO. Even if convicted he doesn't deserve that kind of treatment. |
hobbit709 |
Mar-14-11 08:16 AM |
#122 |
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No!! nt |
riderinthestorm |
Mar-14-11 11:46 AM |
#125 |
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No n/t |
OhioChick |
Mar-14-11 11:48 AM |
#126 |
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No. I wonder if they're trying to coerce a confession or induce a suicide. n/t |
gkhouston |
Mar-14-11 01:33 PM |
#132 |
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They want to break him and intimidate other whistleblowers |
Bragi |
Mar-14-11 03:09 PM |
#140 |
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No! n/t |
Aerows |
Mar-14-11 03:08 PM |
#139 |
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Fuck no. It makes me sick. And people who support his torture make me sick. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-14-11 03:36 PM |
#143 |
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It scares the Hell out of me that many on DU support torture |
mochajava666 |
Mar-14-11 03:37 PM |
#144 |
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What's worse is that so many blindly trust the war machine |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 03:41 PM |
#147 |
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Well said |
mochajava666 |
Mar-14-11 03:47 PM |
#148 |
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exactly right |
G_j |
Mar-14-11 03:59 PM |
#150 |
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My take--so far the only issue I've seen is the clothes thing. If Manning were to committ suicide |
ecstatic |
Mar-14-11 03:58 PM |
#149 |
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The ARMY shrink ruled a month ago that Manning wasn't suicidal. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 04:01 PM |
#152 |
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Probably because he openly made a remark |
ecstatic |
Mar-14-11 04:07 PM |
#155 |
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He said that BEFORE the shrink's ruling, and has repeatedly stated he was just being sarcastic |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 04:08 PM |
#156 |
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If I make a comment about a bomb on a plane |
ecstatic |
Mar-14-11 04:10 PM |
#158 |
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This isn't the same thing. |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 04:12 PM |
#159 |
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No one is using suicide watch as an additional punishment |
Travelman |
Mar-14-11 04:53 PM |
#164 |
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So what are you saying....that Manning has to be kept on suicide watch for the REST of his time in |
Ken Burch |
Mar-14-11 04:58 PM |
#165 |
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Oh heavens no! Suicide would not do! |
elias49 |
Mar-14-11 09:05 PM |
#173 |
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Another letter sent to the President and other Officials. |
sallysense |
Mar-14-11 04:04 PM |
#154 |
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Hell, no! |
al bupp |
Mar-14-11 04:09 PM |
#157 |
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No No No No No No and NO! |
Mojeoux |
Mar-14-11 04:13 PM |
#160 |
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Nope! nt |
City Lights |
Mar-14-11 04:15 PM |
#161 |
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of course he does't but he put his dumb butt in the situation so I |
okieinpain |
Mar-14-11 04:28 PM |
#162 |
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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!! |
zorahopkins |
Mar-14-11 05:03 PM |
#167 |
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NO... but those wishing this treatment on him |
fascisthunter |
Mar-14-11 06:32 PM |
#171 |
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NO! |
dhpgetsit |
Mar-14-11 10:28 PM |
#176 |
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