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Knight Hawk Donating Member (336 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Dec-23-10 06:28 PM
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61. Well
Most of the people who watch Fox News are simply being confirmed by Fox News in what they already believe or are inclined to believe.If Fox News shut down tomorrow these people would not all start reading The Nation ."Post hoc est non propter hoc' After this is not(necessarily ) on account of this.A rooster crows every morning before the sun comes up but he does not CAUSE the sun to come up.To even start to stop these people from having confirmed what thet already believe or want to believe ,you would have to shut down the entire right wing industry .Also for many of these blue collar middle class people THEIR economy IS worsening.Maybe my income taxes have not increased but in my county/state the following taxes/fees have increased in the last two years some drastically:gasoline taxes,toll roads,cigarette taxes,speeding tickets,vehicle registrations,parking tickets,fees for parks,fees for boat ramps,taxes on insurance ,real estate taxes .To the average joe out here its hard to sell him on global" warming" when last winter Florida had one of its coldest winters since they starting keeping records ,if not the coldest.I personally cannot find many intelligent ,well informed people,even "experts" who believe the economy will improve in 2011.Of course those who can make money by lying about the economy ,either optomistic or pessimistic ,are doing so.I doubt Joseph Stilitez sp? or Robert Reich are very optimistic about 2011 or beyond.
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  -People, we're in deep trouble babylonsister  Dec-22-10 09:49 PM   #0 
  - I'm almost hoarse from yelling  ewagner   Dec-22-10 09:53 PM   #1 
  - fox news should be treated as a terrorist organization  Angry Dragon   Dec-22-10 09:57 PM   #2 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Dec-22-10 10:45 PM   #10 
  - Enemy of the people # 1 - Murdoch. #2 - Ailes  MedicalAdmin   Dec-23-10 12:03 PM   #23 
  - Add Glenn Beck to that list. And did you know that ...  66 dmhlt   Dec-23-10 04:14 PM   #52 
  - Considering that a "terrorist" is someone who uses violence for political gain...  KansDem   Dec-23-10 12:34 PM   #32 
     - Bob Beckel says that JA is a traitor and a 'treasonist' he forgot to  Tanelorn   Dec-23-10 05:03 PM   #59 
     - Forget Wikileaks  Tanelorn   Dec-23-10 05:20 PM   #60 
  - We have been warning about this for over ten years  nadinbrzezinski   Dec-22-10 09:57 PM   #3 
  - We'll just have to repeat history until we get it right!!!  freshwest   Dec-22-10 10:04 PM   #4 
  - Unfortunately this is not Groundhog Day  csziggy   Dec-22-10 10:20 PM   #6 
     - Until we get it right  freshwest   Dec-22-10 10:42 PM   #9 
  - Which is why I say, the Dems are assisting & helping Fox by going on Fox  EV_Ares   Dec-22-10 10:15 PM   #5 
  - You are 100% correct. By appearing on that "network" the Dems, et al give it credibility  BrklynLiberal   Dec-23-10 11:46 AM   #20 
  - +1000% --  defendandprotect   Dec-23-10 12:34 PM   #33 
  - Oh, FFS...lay off Fox already, will you?  Wednesdays   Dec-22-10 10:27 PM   #7 
  - It is the perfect propaganda machine  liberal N proud   Dec-22-10 10:34 PM   #8 
  - Something needs to be done to introduce that network to responsible, truthful reporting.  pacalo   Dec-22-10 11:24 PM   #11 
  - Why does everybody think American politicians are calling Assange a terrorist?  EFerrari   Dec-22-10 11:33 PM   #12 
  - Right. It's not just Fox news.  hulka38   Dec-23-10 01:23 PM   #38 
  - Gene Lyons, blackballed for his work pulling back the curtain.  grasswire   Dec-22-10 11:50 PM   #13 
  - K & R  Scurrilous   Dec-23-10 01:11 AM   #14 
  - Recommended! Fox News: Catapulting the Propaganda 24/7  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-23-10 01:33 AM   #15 
  - Merry Christmas Ghostie!  lonestarnot   Dec-23-10 08:51 AM   #16 
     - And a very Merry Christmas to you too, lonestarnot  Ghost in the Machine   Dec-23-10 01:07 PM   #36 
  - "A deluded citizenry can't effectively govern itself."  Enthusiast   Dec-23-10 10:43 AM   #17 
  - The very fact that anyone would watch Faux News or appear on it is evidence  defendandprotect   Dec-23-10 11:30 AM   #18 
  - No  Moosepoop   Dec-23-10 12:23 PM   #29 
     - Thank you .... apologies ... "Fools for Scandal" .....  defendandprotect   Dec-23-10 12:33 PM   #31 
  - Fascism Anyone?  BrklynLiberal   Dec-23-10 11:41 AM   #19 
  - We have fallen into the pit! nt  snappyturtle   Dec-23-10 10:36 PM   #68 
  - I have already detached myself from potential dangers. Let the chips fall where they may.  fatbuckel   Dec-23-10 11:49 AM   #21 
  - This is news that's at least 15 years late  lunatica   Dec-23-10 11:59 AM   #22 
  - "Smirk." - Fox & RepubliCronies  SpiralHawk   Dec-23-10 12:09 PM   #24 
  - Fox even won the right to lie to us in court.  RC   Dec-23-10 10:30 PM   #66 
  - it's a dilemma in a Democracy. a ministry of propaganda is a danger  spanone   Dec-23-10 12:09 PM   #25 
  - Kicked and recommended.  Uncle Joe   Dec-23-10 12:11 PM   #26 
  - The econonmy is NOT worsening? Really...could have fooled me.  keepCAblue   Dec-23-10 12:14 PM   #27 
  - Obama stimulus response was only 25% of what was needed ... fading out ...  defendandprotect   Dec-23-10 12:43 PM   #34 
  - thanks sis, KnR  FogerRox   Dec-23-10 12:16 PM   #28 
  - If we don't get some semblance of an objective media back,  rosesaylavee   Dec-23-10 12:33 PM   #30 
  - There needs to be a national movement to take down Fox propaganda.  felix_numinous   Dec-23-10 12:51 PM   #35 
  - There needs to be a national movement ot take down Rupert Murdoch and FOX  prodigals0n   Dec-23-10 01:21 PM   #37 
  - K&R but it's not just FAUX news ... nt  TBF   Dec-23-10 01:32 PM   #39 
  - Dumbing Down Full Speed Ahead.  colsohlibgal   Dec-23-10 01:46 PM   #40 
  - Faux has corporate and 'individual' sponsers. Those are the real targets.  geckosfeet   Dec-23-10 01:50 PM   #41 
  - Faux doesn't make people stupid, it keeps them stupid because they want stupidity  StarburstClock   Dec-23-10 02:01 PM   #42 
  - But, but it can't happen here. Freedom. Liberty. The Constitution. Fer cryin' out loud, 9-11!!!  valerief   Dec-23-10 02:27 PM   #43 
  - Turn the TV off ... No really ... Turn the TV off! Your life will get better. n/t  rtassi   Dec-23-10 02:39 PM   #44 
  - And yet, when I pointed out the problem of lying to the public, DU took Foxes side  FiveGoodMen   Dec-23-10 02:53 PM   #45 
  - Maybe but ---  irislake   Dec-23-10 03:11 PM   #46 
  - KNR! n/t  indimuse   Dec-23-10 03:34 PM   #47 
  - it's been obvious what their role has been - pure propaganda  fascisthunter   Dec-23-10 03:36 PM   #48 
  - troublesome  handmade34   Dec-23-10 03:37 PM   #49 
  - Not the first time, the south did this during the civil rights era  Hamlette   Dec-23-10 03:41 PM   #50 
  - The Simpsons, Family Guy, American Idol...  The_Commonist   Dec-23-10 03:49 PM   #51 
  - Great, another South bashing thread. n/t  leeroysphitz   Dec-23-10 04:21 PM   #53 
  - Actually, we are in deep trouble not because of FOX News, but because  Vinnie From Indy   Dec-23-10 04:21 PM   #54 
  - Our Democratic "representatives" did nothing to stop George Bush from  rhett o rick   Dec-23-10 07:03 PM   #62 
  - kick!!!!!!  Liberal_in_LA   Dec-23-10 04:22 PM   #55 
  - Faux News is scary stuff.  delightfulstar   Dec-23-10 04:23 PM   #56 
  - Fox Noise worries me less than the rest of the corporate media  nxylas   Dec-23-10 04:42 PM   #57 
  - paging robert jordan, please pick up the courtesy phone nt  meow mix   Dec-23-10 04:45 PM   #58 
  - Well  Knight Hawk   Dec-23-10 06:28 PM   #61 
  - FOX should be sued.  Maineman   Dec-23-10 07:17 PM   #63 
  - Can't sue them. They won the right to lie to their audience in court.  RC   Dec-23-10 10:35 PM   #67 
  - K & 190th R  David Zephyr   Dec-23-10 08:05 PM   #64 
  - Looking back on the Spanish War (George Orwell)  struggle4progress   Dec-23-10 08:22 PM   #65 
  - FAUX is run by aliens, I am convinced of it  DainBramaged   Dec-23-10 10:37 PM   #69 
 

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