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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 03:38 PM
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48. Thanks for missing the point.
We were lied into a war as fake liberators, that wouldn't be the case if we were to support the rebels in Libya.

I'd love to deal with the other stuff you mentioned, and I honestly thought that with the guy we elected in 2008 we would get to work on some of that, boy were we ever wrong, but the knock-on effects in the region of a democratic Libya would be enormous.

As to your last point, I am a little confused, are you suggesting that if i signed up I'd have a choice of where to go and I could set policy? How cool would that be!! :sarcasm:
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  -I think the military option in Libya is valid and should be considered... truebrit71  Mar-08-11 11:05 AM   #0 
  - Because it's worked so well in so many other places.  KamaAina   Mar-08-11 11:08 AM   #1 
  - I think you missed my point..Iraq is a frigging nightmare specifically because it wasn't....  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 11:14 AM   #11 
     - Announcing..  sendero   Mar-09-11 05:55 AM   #77 
  - Can't we opt out of a war every now and then?  mmonk   Mar-08-11 11:08 AM   #2 
  - I agree with you latter statement.....  physioex   Mar-08-11 11:09 AM   #3 
  - No-Fly Zone for sure.  rucky   Mar-08-11 11:09 AM   #4 
  - I agree....nt  joeybee12   Mar-08-11 11:10 AM   #5 
  - I don't think a full-scale invasion would be advantageous or even necessary...  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 11:11 AM   #6 
  - I think that would be ok  Johonny   Mar-08-11 11:14 AM   #10 
  - Just to clarify... A no fly zone operation starts with  GSLevel9   Mar-08-11 11:17 AM   #13 
  - You can't have a no-fly zone without invasion to the degree...  JuniperLea   Mar-08-11 04:05 PM   #54 
  - You have to strike first to prevent them from striking first?  rucky   Mar-09-11 05:48 AM   #76 
     - Read up on no-fly zones of the past...  JuniperLea   Mar-09-11 10:07 AM   #83 
  - No-fly zone..  sendero   Mar-09-11 05:56 AM   #78 
  - Undoubtably the oil companies agree with you. n/t  blindpig   Mar-08-11 11:12 AM   #7 
  - +1000000000 n/t  Catherina   Mar-08-11 03:28 PM   #47 
  - If the reports of Zawiyah being flattend are true...  joshcryer   Mar-08-11 11:12 AM   #8 
  - for now, I'm against.  northoftheborder   Mar-08-11 11:14 AM   #9 
  - Only if we have the full, unanimous approval of the neighboring countries and the EU  cowcommander   Mar-08-11 11:16 AM   #12 
  - So if the neighboring countries say "do it" we jump?  GSLevel9   Mar-08-11 11:21 AM   #18 
  - NO  Bandit   Mar-08-11 11:17 AM   #14 
  - (Your vote: +1)  Kolesar   Mar-08-11 11:17 AM   #15 
  - Oh?  BeFree   Mar-08-11 11:18 AM   #16 
  - My argument is that military intervention in Libya is certainly more valid than in Iraq..  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 11:53 AM   #21 
     - It would be...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 12:11 PM   #29 
  - It's oil that we love..........not people  DainBramaged   Mar-08-11 11:20 AM   #17 
  - I think everything I'm willing to support can be done with a few dozen sorties  TheKentuckian   Mar-08-11 11:47 AM   #19 
  - Enlist. nt  Obamanaut   Mar-08-11 11:48 AM   #20 
  - Why? nt  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 11:54 AM   #22 
     - People who advocate military action, anywhere, should be willing to  Obamanaut   Mar-08-11 12:00 PM   #23 
        - Exactly  Aerows   Mar-08-11 12:13 PM   #30 
        - Ah, I see, you have to have "skin in the game" to comment yes? So by that rationale no man should...  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 12:39 PM   #32 
           - FYI, the only thing I've ever opined re abortion is that it should always  Obamanaut   Mar-08-11 02:23 PM   #39 
  - Given how many of the people of the ME see the USA as an occupier  jwirr   Mar-08-11 12:05 PM   #24 
  - I can't think of a better way to de-legitimize the revolution  arcane1   Mar-08-11 12:09 PM   #26 
     - Exactly.  jwirr   Mar-08-11 12:47 PM   #35 
  - you guys go in first, we'll be uh, right behind you!  dionysus   Mar-08-11 12:07 PM   #25 
  - LOL, yeah  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:32 PM   #41 
  - The US is pressing to cut every social service under the sun...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 12:09 PM   #27 
  - that logic unless you are a woman you shouldn't talk about abortion rights..  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 12:43 PM   #34 
  - That's one great story you created there, trying to intimate  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:39 PM   #43 
     - Wow I ought to be "horsewhipped" and I think like a republican...  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 03:44 PM   #49 
        - Wake up and smell the coffee dear (as Mrs. Doubtfire would say)  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 04:19 PM   #57 
        - And I said RepubliCON, not  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 04:21 PM   #59 
  - +1000  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:33 PM   #42 
  - "God save British Petroleum!" - - The Queen  Baclava   Mar-08-11 12:11 PM   #28 
  - Thank you! This isn't about human suffering... it's about oil...  JuniperLea   Mar-08-11 04:08 PM   #55 
  - Nope. Not our problem. nt  Modern_Matthew   Mar-08-11 12:14 PM   #31 
  - As a species or as a country?  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 12:40 PM   #33 
     - When do Our suffering poor and 40 million on food stamps  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:46 PM   #44 
        - Thanks for missing the point.  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 03:38 PM   #48 
           - Looks like you keep creating those stories in your head. How's that going for You?  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 04:25 PM   #61 
              - Faaaaaaaaaabulous...the water's fine, come on in dahling...  truebrit71   Mar-09-11 08:38 AM   #82 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-09-11 03:07 PM   #86 
  - Actually, "human rights violations" was a reason for war against Iraq.  David__77   Mar-08-11 12:48 PM   #36 
  - May want to ask these folks first -  IDemo   Mar-08-11 12:58 PM   #37 
  - They. Don't. Want. Our. Help.  Lucky 13   Mar-08-11 01:01 PM   #38 
  - I think some of the rebels...  BlueCheese   Mar-08-11 03:22 PM   #46 
  - +1 If we're so concerned, I suggest we start with Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.  Catherina   Mar-08-11 04:04 PM   #53 
  - The Interim National Council disagrees with you, but I imagine that disrupts the narrative. (nt)  Posteritatis   Mar-08-11 04:08 PM   #56 
     - What narrative? Whose side am I supposed to be on?  Lucky 13   Mar-08-11 10:39 PM   #70 
        - Their actual opinion overrules your opinion of what theirs is. (nt)  Posteritatis   Mar-09-11 03:53 AM   #71 
           - Well... most of what I've seen and heard is the Libyans telling the US to stay out of it.  Lucky 13   Mar-09-11 08:31 AM   #80 
  - Eye of Newt Gingrinch  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:30 PM   #40 
  - My understanding is that...  BlueCheese   Mar-08-11 03:22 PM   #45 
  - I am suggesting whatever military option the experts thinkg would work to free the Libyan people...  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 03:46 PM   #50 
  - Didn't we have to use ground troops in Kosovo because air support wasn't sufficient?  Hugabear   Mar-08-11 04:38 PM   #63 
     - In the end, air power worked out.  BlueCheese   Mar-08-11 05:46 PM   #66 
  - Forget Iraq. Libya has more in common with Afghanistan.  Xithras   Mar-08-11 04:00 PM   #51 
  - Because it worked so well in Iraq...  JuniperLea   Mar-08-11 04:03 PM   #52 
  - where's the united nations? let's send in the UN  spanone   Mar-08-11 04:20 PM   #58 
  - You do know the UN needs US permission to be "sent in," right? (nt)  Posteritatis   Mar-08-11 04:41 PM   #65 
  - Unfortunately, sending in the UN...  BlueCheese   Mar-08-11 05:46 PM   #67 
  - We are not the World Police.  Dappleganger   Mar-08-11 04:24 PM   #60 
  - Thank you Dappleganger  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 04:33 PM   #62 
  - Close down the hundreds of US military sites of varying size around the  Obamanaut   Mar-09-11 10:24 AM   #84 
  - No.  Dogtown   Mar-08-11 04:40 PM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-11 05:50 PM   #68 
  - no nt  sudopod   Mar-08-11 05:51 PM   #69 
  - Western countries have never ever been to war to liberate a country  malaise   Mar-09-11 04:15 AM   #72 
  - exactly so.  KG   Mar-09-11 04:27 AM   #74 
  - Right, we didn't liberate France or Holland or Belgium in WWII right?  truebrit71   Mar-09-11 08:37 AM   #81 
     - Slight difference. The Germans were occupying those countries and there  neverforget   Mar-09-11 03:21 PM   #87 
        - But the fact still remains that 'the west' liberated those countries..  truebrit71   Mar-10-11 11:33 AM   #88 
           - We liberated them from a foreign OCCUPYING power: the Germans.  neverforget   Mar-10-11 12:13 PM   #90 
              - Kosovo? Civil war no?  truebrit71   Mar-11-11 10:07 AM   #91 
                 - You mean the bombing campaign in Kosovo? They shot down a  neverforget   Mar-11-11 10:33 AM   #92 
                    - I totally agree with the hard to get out of bit..  truebrit71   Mar-11-11 10:50 AM   #93 
                       - On a moral level yes. But the fact remains, it's an internal affair and  neverforget   Mar-11-11 11:27 AM   #96 
  - While I agree with the idea...  NuclearDem   Mar-09-11 04:18 AM   #73 
  - not old enough to have seen this movie before?  Hannah Bell   Mar-09-11 04:32 AM   #75 
  - Are you an American citizen? n/t  Occulus   Mar-09-11 06:48 AM   #79 
  - let Europe get off its dead butt and do something.  RedCloud   Mar-09-11 10:44 AM   #85 
  - The only result will be untold horrors visited upon the Libyans under the guise of helping them  Taitertots   Mar-10-11 11:43 AM   #89 
  - No...I don't agree  JokerAllstar   Mar-11-11 10:52 AM   #94 
  - I'll let a Medal of Honor winning warrior talk for me...  Bigmack   Mar-11-11 10:54 AM   #95 

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