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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Mar-08-11 12:48 PM
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36. Actually, "human rights violations" was a reason for war against Iraq.
The WMD nonsense was just part of it. Iraq was part of "global democratic revolution" enforced from the West. It was criminal and immoral in Iraq and would be in Libya as well. Obama is doing the right thing. Let the right-wingers in London froth at the mouth and wail away.
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  -I think the military option in Libya is valid and should be considered... truebrit71  Mar-08-11 11:05 AM   #0 
  - Because it's worked so well in so many other places.  KamaAina   Mar-08-11 11:08 AM   #1 
  - I think you missed my point..Iraq is a frigging nightmare specifically because it wasn't....  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 11:14 AM   #11 
     - Announcing..  sendero   Mar-09-11 05:55 AM   #77 
  - Can't we opt out of a war every now and then?  mmonk   Mar-08-11 11:08 AM   #2 
  - I agree with you latter statement.....  physioex   Mar-08-11 11:09 AM   #3 
  - No-Fly Zone for sure.  rucky   Mar-08-11 11:09 AM   #4 
  - I agree....nt  joeybee12   Mar-08-11 11:10 AM   #5 
  - I don't think a full-scale invasion would be advantageous or even necessary...  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 11:11 AM   #6 
  - I think that would be ok  Johonny   Mar-08-11 11:14 AM   #10 
  - Just to clarify... A no fly zone operation starts with  GSLevel9   Mar-08-11 11:17 AM   #13 
  - You can't have a no-fly zone without invasion to the degree...  JuniperLea   Mar-08-11 04:05 PM   #54 
  - You have to strike first to prevent them from striking first?  rucky   Mar-09-11 05:48 AM   #76 
     - Read up on no-fly zones of the past...  JuniperLea   Mar-09-11 10:07 AM   #83 
  - No-fly zone..  sendero   Mar-09-11 05:56 AM   #78 
  - Undoubtably the oil companies agree with you. n/t  blindpig   Mar-08-11 11:12 AM   #7 
  - +1000000000 n/t  Catherina   Mar-08-11 03:28 PM   #47 
  - If the reports of Zawiyah being flattend are true...  joshcryer   Mar-08-11 11:12 AM   #8 
  - for now, I'm against.  northoftheborder   Mar-08-11 11:14 AM   #9 
  - Only if we have the full, unanimous approval of the neighboring countries and the EU  cowcommander   Mar-08-11 11:16 AM   #12 
  - So if the neighboring countries say "do it" we jump?  GSLevel9   Mar-08-11 11:21 AM   #18 
  - NO  Bandit   Mar-08-11 11:17 AM   #14 
  - (Your vote: +1)  Kolesar   Mar-08-11 11:17 AM   #15 
  - Oh?  BeFree   Mar-08-11 11:18 AM   #16 
  - My argument is that military intervention in Libya is certainly more valid than in Iraq..  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 11:53 AM   #21 
     - It would be...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 12:11 PM   #29 
  - It's oil that we love..........not people  DainBramaged   Mar-08-11 11:20 AM   #17 
  - I think everything I'm willing to support can be done with a few dozen sorties  TheKentuckian   Mar-08-11 11:47 AM   #19 
  - Enlist. nt  Obamanaut   Mar-08-11 11:48 AM   #20 
  - Why? nt  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 11:54 AM   #22 
     - People who advocate military action, anywhere, should be willing to  Obamanaut   Mar-08-11 12:00 PM   #23 
        - Exactly  Aerows   Mar-08-11 12:13 PM   #30 
        - Ah, I see, you have to have "skin in the game" to comment yes? So by that rationale no man should...  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 12:39 PM   #32 
           - FYI, the only thing I've ever opined re abortion is that it should always  Obamanaut   Mar-08-11 02:23 PM   #39 
  - Given how many of the people of the ME see the USA as an occupier  jwirr   Mar-08-11 12:05 PM   #24 
  - I can't think of a better way to de-legitimize the revolution  arcane1   Mar-08-11 12:09 PM   #26 
     - Exactly.  jwirr   Mar-08-11 12:47 PM   #35 
  - you guys go in first, we'll be uh, right behind you!  dionysus   Mar-08-11 12:07 PM   #25 
  - LOL, yeah  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:32 PM   #41 
  - The US is pressing to cut every social service under the sun...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 12:09 PM   #27 
  - ..by that logic unless you are a woman you shouldn't talk about abortion rights..  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 12:43 PM   #34 
  - That's one great story you created there, trying to intimate  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:39 PM   #43 
     - Wow I ought to be "horsewhipped" and I think like a republican...  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 03:44 PM   #49 
        - Wake up and smell the coffee dear (as Mrs. Doubtfire would say)  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 04:19 PM   #57 
        - And I said RepubliCON, not  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 04:21 PM   #59 
  - +1000  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:33 PM   #42 
  - "God save British Petroleum!" - - The Queen  Baclava   Mar-08-11 12:11 PM   #28 
  - Thank you! This isn't about human suffering... it's about oil...  JuniperLea   Mar-08-11 04:08 PM   #55 
  - Nope. Not our problem. nt  Modern_Matthew   Mar-08-11 12:14 PM   #31 
  - As a species or as a country?  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 12:40 PM   #33 
     - When do Our suffering poor and 40 million on food stamps  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:46 PM   #44 
        - Thanks for missing the point.  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 03:38 PM   #48 
           - Looks like you keep creating those stories in your head. How's that going for You?  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 04:25 PM   #61 
              - Faaaaaaaaaabulous...the water's fine, come on in dahling...  truebrit71   Mar-09-11 08:38 AM   #82 
                 - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-09-11 03:07 PM   #86 
  - Actually, "human rights violations" was a reason for war against Iraq.  David__77   Mar-08-11 12:48 PM   #36 
  - May want to ask these folks first -  IDemo   Mar-08-11 12:58 PM   #37 
  - They. Don't. Want. Our. Help.  Lucky 13   Mar-08-11 01:01 PM   #38 
  - I think some of the rebels...  BlueCheese   Mar-08-11 03:22 PM   #46 
  - +1 If we're so concerned, I suggest we start with Yemen, Afghanistan, Pakistan and Iraq.  Catherina   Mar-08-11 04:04 PM   #53 
  - The Interim National Council disagrees with you, but I imagine that disrupts the narrative. (nt)  Posteritatis   Mar-08-11 04:08 PM   #56 
     - What narrative? Whose side am I supposed to be on?  Lucky 13   Mar-08-11 10:39 PM   #70 
        - Their actual opinion overrules your opinion of what theirs is. (nt)  Posteritatis   Mar-09-11 03:53 AM   #71 
           - Well... most of what I've seen and heard is the Libyans telling the US to stay out of it.  Lucky 13   Mar-09-11 08:31 AM   #80 
  - Eye of Newt Gingrinch  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 02:30 PM   #40 
  - My understanding is that...  BlueCheese   Mar-08-11 03:22 PM   #45 
  - I am suggesting whatever military option the experts thinkg would work to free the Libyan people...  truebrit71   Mar-08-11 03:46 PM   #50 
  - Didn't we have to use ground troops in Kosovo because air support wasn't sufficient?  Hugabear   Mar-08-11 04:38 PM   #63 
     - In the end, air power worked out.  BlueCheese   Mar-08-11 05:46 PM   #66 
  - Forget Iraq. Libya has more in common with Afghanistan.  Xithras   Mar-08-11 04:00 PM   #51 
  - Because it worked so well in Iraq...  JuniperLea   Mar-08-11 04:03 PM   #52 
  - where's the united nations? let's send in the UN  spanone   Mar-08-11 04:20 PM   #58 
  - You do know the UN needs US permission to be "sent in," right? (nt)  Posteritatis   Mar-08-11 04:41 PM   #65 
  - Unfortunately, sending in the UN...  BlueCheese   Mar-08-11 05:46 PM   #67 
  - We are not the World Police.  Dappleganger   Mar-08-11 04:24 PM   #60 
  - Thank you Dappleganger  louslobbs   Mar-08-11 04:33 PM   #62 
  - Close down the hundreds of US military sites of varying size around the  Obamanaut   Mar-09-11 10:24 AM   #84 
  - No.  Dogtown   Mar-08-11 04:40 PM   #64 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-08-11 05:50 PM   #68 
  - no nt  sudopod   Mar-08-11 05:51 PM   #69 
  - Western countries have never ever been to war to liberate a country  malaise   Mar-09-11 04:15 AM   #72 
  - exactly so.  KG   Mar-09-11 04:27 AM   #74 
  - Right, we didn't liberate France or Holland or Belgium in WWII right?  truebrit71   Mar-09-11 08:37 AM   #81 
     - Slight difference. The Germans were occupying those countries and there  neverforget   Mar-09-11 03:21 PM   #87 
        - But the fact still remains that 'the west' liberated those countries..  truebrit71   Mar-10-11 11:33 AM   #88 
           - We liberated them from a foreign OCCUPYING power: the Germans.  neverforget   Mar-10-11 12:13 PM   #90 
              - Kosovo? Civil war no?  truebrit71   Mar-11-11 10:07 AM   #91 
                 - You mean the bombing campaign in Kosovo? They shot down a  neverforget   Mar-11-11 10:33 AM   #92 
                    - I totally agree with the hard to get out of bit..  truebrit71   Mar-11-11 10:50 AM   #93 
                       - On a moral level yes. But the fact remains, it's an internal affair and  neverforget   Mar-11-11 11:27 AM   #96 
  - While I agree with the idea...  NuclearDem   Mar-09-11 04:18 AM   #73 
  - not old enough to have seen this movie before?  Hannah Bell   Mar-09-11 04:32 AM   #75 
  - Are you an American citizen? n/t  Occulus   Mar-09-11 06:48 AM   #79 
  - let Europe get off its dead butt and do something.  RedCloud   Mar-09-11 10:44 AM   #85 
  - The only result will be untold horrors visited upon the Libyans under the guise of helping them  Taitertots   Mar-10-11 11:43 AM   #89 
  - No...I don't agree  JokerAllstar   Mar-11-11 10:52 AM   #94 
  - I'll let a Medal of Honor winning warrior talk for me...  Bigmack   Mar-11-11 10:54 AM   #95 
 

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