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30. Single blow and the fall causing the injuries are also mitigators
Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 07:29 PM by ProgressiveProfessor
I am a very big boy. I have also been involved in fisticuffs over the years. I have never had a problem when my use of violence has been defensive, though the aggressors were seriously injured. Then again, I have never ever struck a woman.

Call me old school...
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  -Man puts woman in coma with punch over a parking spot RamboLiberal  Mar-07-11 04:11 PM   #0 
  - He's only sorty he got caught and the world knows he's a thug and a bully  Warpy   Mar-07-11 04:14 PM   #1 
  - asshole  JI7   Mar-07-11 04:15 PM   #2 
  - at the link it says she hit him first, i think there might be video of it  JI7   Mar-07-11 04:19 PM   #3 
  - none of it is good..... bummer for all of them. nt  seabeyond   Mar-07-11 04:22 PM   #5 
  - Would she have hit the ground if he had not punched her? Come on. nt  TBF   Mar-07-11 04:47 PM   #11 
  - would he have hit her, if she hadnt hit him? the thing about it is....  seabeyond   Mar-07-11 05:08 PM   #12 
  - None of this would have happened  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:24 PM   #53 
     - wouldnt have happened if she had walked away. previous history is a nonissue  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 05:55 PM   #68 
     - Previous history....  Aerows   Mar-08-11 06:23 PM   #77 
        - i expect him to be punished. you won't see anywhere where i suggested otherwise. nt  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:16 PM   #123 
     - If it happened the way it states, then she provoked this, not him.  cleanhippie   Mar-08-11 06:17 PM   #73 
        - It matters under the law n/t  Aerows   Mar-08-11 06:23 PM   #79 
        - Correct, and they will probably BOTH be found guilty of assault and battery.  cleanhippie   Mar-08-11 06:34 PM   #94 
           - Which is fine, if she actually hit him  Aerows   Mar-08-11 06:36 PM   #96 
        - The fellow is a prize.  avaistheone1   Mar-09-11 02:16 AM   #185 
           - Not the point.  cleanhippie   Mar-09-11 09:41 AM   #186 
              - Not "the" point, however it is indeed "a" point among many.  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 11:36 AM   #217 
                 - Agreed, but it is the main point.  cleanhippie   Mar-09-11 01:34 PM   #226 
                    - There appears to be quite a few "main points".  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 02:41 PM   #229 
                       - Perhaps, but I'm not sure its an apt analogy.  cleanhippie   Mar-09-11 04:11 PM   #242 
                          - So I believe the analogy is indeed apt.  LanternWaste   Mar-10-11 02:49 PM   #261 
  - you should have saw that one comin.  Badfish   Mar-07-11 05:30 PM   #19 
     - Saw what coming? Sorry, I have no idea what "ignored" said.  TBF   Mar-07-11 05:42 PM   #20 
  - Doesn't matter.  flvegan   Mar-07-11 05:13 PM   #13 
  - a real woman wouldnt hit because she feels she has allowances....  seabeyond   Mar-07-11 05:15 PM   #14 
  - I think  flvegan   Mar-07-11 05:17 PM   #15 
     - i have never found the need... nt  seabeyond   Mar-07-11 05:18 PM   #16 
        - I have found the need.  MedicalAdmin   Mar-08-11 05:47 PM   #63 
  - ahh, a "real" man. Since she hit him first, doen make her less of a "real" woman?  cleanhippie   Mar-08-11 06:18 PM   #74 
     - Quick point...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:20 PM   #126 
     - Yeah, dude, I get it it. You are repeating yourself ad nauseum. Your point is made, FFS.  cleanhippie   Mar-08-11 08:34 PM   #166 
     - No, just makes her a violent woman.  flvegan   Mar-08-11 09:40 PM   #171 
        - Your response is what it is, with no help from me.  cleanhippie   Mar-09-11 09:42 AM   #187 
  - Yeah. She only flew off her feet  Control-Z   Mar-07-11 05:20 PM   #17 
  - This isn't his first arrest for assault...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:21 PM   #50 
     - nt  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 05:22 PM   #52 
  - I don't believe a word he says about the incident. He's a violent dirtbag. nt  Liquorice   Mar-07-11 04:19 PM   #4 
  - Natch. That's what prison's all about. . .  Journeyman   Mar-07-11 04:27 PM   #6 
  - Is this really from 2008?  Kennah   Mar-07-11 04:31 PM   #7 
  - No it happened a few days ago  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 10:03 AM   #193 
  - 'i'm sorry for the situation she is going through'? wtf is that!  ejpoeta   Mar-07-11 04:34 PM   #8 
  - We need to see what the purported video of the incident says  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-07-11 04:39 PM   #9 
  - May be some mitigation, but it's hard to believe that with 8" and 50 lbs. more -  TBF   Mar-07-11 05:44 PM   #22 
  - Single blow and the fall causing the injuries are also mitigators  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-07-11 07:24 PM   #30 
  - + 1  musette_sf   Mar-07-11 07:38 PM   #36 
  - yeah, the "she hit me first" story sounds like a bold lie  pitohui   Mar-09-11 03:50 PM   #235 
  - He claimed he had blood on his head  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 10:05 AM   #194 
  - No we don't  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:32 PM   #54 
     - I actually have some personal experience with this.  bighart   Mar-08-11 07:17 PM   #125 
  - guy has "midget complex"... real tough guy. nt  GSLevel9   Mar-07-11 04:40 PM   #10 
  - ...  Control-Z   Mar-07-11 05:28 PM   #18 
  - It crushed HIS family? He might think about that before crushing other folks' brains. nt  TBF   Mar-07-11 05:43 PM   #21 
  - How long before Fox paints this as a "union thug" at work?  Taverner   Mar-07-11 05:47 PM   #23 
  - Reminds me of my cousin and her road rage...  Meldread   Mar-07-11 06:59 PM   #24 
  - I also have a friend that has road rage  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:02 PM   #112 
  - Don't assault people, they might hit back.  JVS   Mar-07-11 07:04 PM   #25 
  - But she didn't deserve to get hit.  Dash87   Mar-07-11 07:19 PM   #29 
  - Hitting back is allowed in self defense  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-07-11 07:27 PM   #31 
  - I agree, but he could have just found another spot.  Dash87   Mar-07-11 07:29 PM   #32 
  - it's hard to find parking spaces , that's why she was saving it for her boyfriend  JI7   Mar-07-11 09:55 PM   #44 
  - of course it is hard, that is why they were both pissed, lol. but one could have done it equally to  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 05:17 PM   #49 
  - The boyfriend was circling the block  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 06:09 PM   #71 
  - doesn't matter , parking spaces are not their own private property  JI7   Mar-08-11 08:25 PM   #164 
     - You'd just love our area then where they put out chairs and other objects  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 10:08 AM   #195 
  - Or those selfish bastards saving...  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 10:11 AM   #198 
     - if she was saving it for him by waiting in her car in the parking spot  JI7   Mar-09-11 05:47 PM   #249 
  - I do not have a problem with standing ones ground...the requirement to retreat is BS  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 04:56 PM   #45 
     - There are times to retreat  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 05:40 PM   #59 
     - Yes there are, but it is not an absolute requirement, nor should it be  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 06:51 PM   #106 
        - So apparently  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:30 PM   #133 
           - It is situational and general rules are hard to come by  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 11:01 PM   #174 
              - New update  Aerows   Mar-09-11 09:53 AM   #189 
                 - More and more comes out...  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-09-11 10:15 AM   #203 
     - And I do not have a problem with leaving...  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 10:39 AM   #214 
  - I bet a jury or a judge won't agree on this one  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 05:38 PM   #57 
  - Disparity of force often referrers to ending a fist fight with a gun  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 06:56 PM   #108 
     - True but it can extend to just one punch by an obviously stronger  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 10:40 AM   #215 
  - Only if you have no other options and you do not escalate the conflict  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 06:08 PM   #70 
     - You can't do that here, not legally.  TicketyBoo   Mar-08-11 06:24 PM   # 
     - Oh definitely both will probably end up in court  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 06:32 PM   #91 
     - State laws vary on duty to retreat. Size alone does not determine threat  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 07:01 PM   #110 
        - The fact that he nearly killed her...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:26 PM   #131 
           - So if an old man had hit her with the same results you would be ok with that?  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 11:17 PM   #176 
  - i can go with the "what kind...man punches a woman?" but did he deserve to be hit  seabeyond   Mar-07-11 07:47 PM   #38 
  - Nope but this guy could have ended it by finding another parking spot.  Dash87   Mar-07-11 08:03 PM   #39 
  - i dont know what the rules are to saves on a parking space, but you hit, expect to be hit back  seabeyond   Mar-07-11 08:08 PM   #41 
  - He caused grievous bodily harm  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:38 PM   #58 
  - Exactly right.  cleanhippie   Mar-08-11 06:26 PM   #83 
     - If this had been  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:29 PM   #132 
        - i read about some man harrassing a woman, peeing in front of her or something.  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:34 PM   #136 
  - she hit him for for trying to park in a space he had a right to  JI7   Mar-07-11 09:49 PM   #43 
  - No ethical requirement to retreat  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 04:57 PM   #46 
     - Yes there was an ethical requirement to retreat  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 05:42 PM   #60 
     - +1  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:52 PM   #65 
     - Won't fly  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:52 PM   #64 
     - You are asserting as facts things that I have not seen  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 07:02 PM   #113 
        - This happened in NY  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:06 PM   #115 
        - You are mostly certainly correct about him being toast  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 07:10 PM   #118 
        - Here...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:12 PM   #119 
     - But there is a legal requirement.  wickerwoman   Mar-08-11 06:33 PM   #92 
        - +1  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 06:46 PM   #105 
        - That requirement varies by state.  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 07:05 PM   #114 
           - It happened in NY  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:10 PM   #117 
              - Yep,  wickerwoman   Mar-08-11 07:12 PM   #120 
  - she didn't hit anybody  pitohui   Mar-09-11 03:54 PM   #237 
  - No one "deserves" to get hit. He didn't "deserve" it either.  cleanhippie   Mar-08-11 06:24 PM   #80 
  - Do you normally believe the word of a violent criminal with an assault record who  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 11:29 PM   #180 
  - It would appear she didn't hit back...  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 03:52 PM   #236 
  - Hold up, "indicted him for the Feb. 29 beatdown" ?  JVS   Mar-07-11 07:06 PM   #26 
  - The Feb 29 is a mistake - this happened this week  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 10:14 AM   #201 
  - Reminds me of something I learned  lapislzi   Mar-07-11 07:09 PM   #27 
  - This guy is a monster, but seriously,  Dash87   Mar-07-11 07:17 PM   #28 
  - Monster. Nice.  joshcryer   Mar-07-11 07:30 PM   #33 
  - Well, what would you call a man who punches a woman straight in the face,  Dash87   Mar-07-11 07:31 PM   #35 
     - I'm not on the jury and I haven't seen the evidence of the case.  joshcryer   Mar-07-11 07:42 PM   #37 
  - she did deserve to get hit, maybe not shot. but hit yep. n/t.  okieinpain   Mar-08-11 05:16 PM   #48 
  - No she did not  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 05:35 PM   #56 
  - uh keep you hands to yourself and I'll do the same. n/t.  okieinpain   Mar-09-11 10:14 AM   #200 
  - What kind of violent rules do you live by?  Bluebear   Mar-08-11 06:20 PM   #75 
  - hey i do not go around hitting people because I didn't get my way.  okieinpain   Mar-09-11 10:15 AM   #202 
  - Let's see the video tape  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 06:42 PM   #100 
  - as long as he didn't stump or kick her in the head all is fair in  okieinpain   Mar-09-11 10:18 AM   #204 
  - I imagine many people feel a righteous justification  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 10:35 AM   #212 
  - im pretty sure he hates sitting in the county jail. still doesn't change  okieinpain   Mar-09-11 01:06 PM   #225 
     - It would appear that the story is changing and she never touched him.  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 02:43 PM   #230 
  - A real man would never hit a woman, no matter what the circumstances are.  Dash87   Mar-09-11 02:09 PM   #227 
     - i just really have such a tough time..... i dont care how mean she is.....  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 02:44 PM   #231 
  - If you consider him to be a "monster" what is she then?  cleanhippie   Mar-08-11 06:27 PM   #86 
     - I would call her a mean person, but this guy is a nut job.  Dash87   Mar-09-11 02:10 PM   #228 
  - I'm 6-foot-2...  derby378   Mar-07-11 07:31 PM   #34 
  - One driving incident, however trivial, put it all in perspective for me.  BobTheSubgenius   Mar-07-11 08:08 PM   #40 
  - Absolutely  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:45 PM   #62 
  - +1  Blue_Tires   Mar-09-11 12:54 PM   #223 
  - No sympathy for him  MadMaddie   Mar-07-11 09:45 PM   #42 
  - just because you are a female does not mean you get a free  okieinpain   Mar-08-11 05:14 PM   #47 
  - It's a disparity of force thing  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 05:34 PM   #55 
  - It kind of falls into line with the whole "dont bring a knife to a gun fight"...  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-08-11 05:55 PM   #67 
  - And a man must not strike back at the woman  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 06:13 PM   #72 
     - I agree with your assesment... he certainly should have walked away.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-08-11 06:20 PM   #76 
        - He's the one who jumped out of his car and went up to her. If she did  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 06:23 PM   #78 
        - EXACTLY  Aerows   Mar-08-11 06:25 PM   #82 
        - She was impeding traffic in a designated area for vehicles...  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-08-11 06:30 PM   #88 
        - You can't run over a pedestrian  Aerows   Mar-08-11 06:33 PM   #93 
        - He got out of his car and attacked her. There's no argument here. He attacked  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 06:35 PM   #95 
           - Actually there is some disagreement  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 06:54 PM   #107 
              - No, he got out of his car and approached her. She was certainly trying to defend  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 07:02 PM   #111 
                 - I have not seen that claim elsewhere. If true, you are correct.  ProgressiveProfessor   Mar-08-11 07:08 PM   #116 
                    - What claim? I'm basing the whole thing on the news report of the attack. He got  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 07:16 PM   #124 
        - you are afraid so you hit? really? i have heard that afraid argument before. when i am afraid  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:22 PM   #128 
           - This isn't a situation between people who know each other though  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:32 PM   #135 
           - even more so. why the hell would you escalate a situation with a stranger and man if afraid.  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:38 PM   #140 
           - If a man came at me aggressively, perhaps calling names, and threatening  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 07:34 PM   #137 
              - i KNOW what i would do. take the spot.... and walk away. nt  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:38 PM   #141 
                 - People often react quite differently than they think they will in the moment. When fight or  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 07:42 PM   #142 
                 - why cant you give the same to the guy then.... he was just reacting to being swung at?  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:44 PM   #143 
                 - Because he assaulted her and we know it because she is in the  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 07:48 PM   #144 
                    - said video surveillance will show Rosas hit him several times before he punched back.  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:54 PM   #148 
                       - She's in the hospital in a coma. She's a victim of a viscious assault. And the  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 07:58 PM   #152 
                 - i can tell so many stories where the woman is going after the man.... and the man does nothing  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:50 PM   #145 
                    - That is not the situation in this case, I don't believe. I don't really  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 07:55 PM   #149 
                    - See, that's what is getting lost here  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:59 PM   #153 
                    - this is what my argument is and a huge issue for me. this is the same mentality  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:59 PM   #154 
                       - Boys and men are not ending up in hospitals and morgues at the hands  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 08:11 PM   #159 
                          - so.... because the females being physically abusive are not hurting the males  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 08:17 PM   #161 
                             - No, it's just not a big societal problem. But the raping, beating and murders  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 08:22 PM   #163 
                                - it was for this woman huh? too bad someone didnt teach this woman that she doesnt get right to hit  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 08:37 PM   #167 
                                   - We don't know if she hit him. He's the only one saying that. We do know he hit her. nt  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 08:38 PM   #168 
                    - Wait a second  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:56 PM   #151 
                    - i think i am the one that has been saying NO hitting by either gender about every damn post  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 08:01 PM   #156 
                    - Better you tell your brother to drop his "true love"  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 10:19 AM   #205 
                       - oh, decades ago. new experience in my life. i could not imagine a girl (we were that young)  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 10:33 AM   #211 
                 - Well, he didn't think much about it  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:51 PM   #146 
                    - so what.... that has nothing to do with what we are discussing.  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:56 PM   #150 
        - I'll bet he's convicted  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 06:26 PM   #84 
        - I'm 5'3" and don't weigh much more than she does  Aerows   Mar-08-11 06:31 PM   #90 
        - His actions can't be considered self-defense  wickerwoman   Mar-08-11 06:44 PM   #102 
           - It's the same situation with an elderly person or a child  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:23 PM   #129 
           - Technically, that depends on the state. See "Castle Doctrine" and "Stand Your Ground" laws...  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-08-11 07:32 PM   #134 
              - I live in Mississippi  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:38 PM   #139 
                 - I think there are some mitigating circumstances in interpereting the outcome.  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-08-11 07:53 PM   #147 
                 - Okay, so...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 08:02 PM   #157 
                    - your conflating his actions' outcome with intent...  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-08-11 08:10 PM   #158 
                       - I would imagine that in regards to any blow which has the force  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 02:45 PM   #232 
                 - +1 on Castle Doctrine and Stand your ground  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 10:23 AM   # 
  - yes i can punch a smaller and weaker person. if you hit me  okieinpain   Mar-09-11 10:23 AM   #209 
     - Try it and I'll bet you will end up in jail  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 03:59 PM   #240 
  - I have to agree  DeadEyeDyck   Mar-08-11 06:31 PM   #89 
  - Disparity of force is the issue  RamboLiberal   Mar-08-11 06:39 PM   #98 
  - of course, if he hadn't gotten out of the car, she couldn't have struck him at all (even assuming  niyad   Mar-08-11 08:27 PM   #165 
  - true, but its just as easy for a female to pull a pistol and shoot  okieinpain   Mar-09-11 10:21 AM   #208 
  - What do you mean he shouldn't be in trouble? He fucking almost killed someone.  superduperfarleft   Mar-08-11 11:28 PM   #178 
     - she hit him first tell her about impulse control. keep your hands  okieinpain   Mar-09-11 10:19 AM   #206 
  - today son telling me about female student that was kicking guys in the crotch. the substitute  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 05:22 PM   #51 
  - Were the guys sexually harassing her?  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:42 PM   #61 
     - no. i know what you are saying, and yes my son would tell me if that were the case  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 05:53 PM   #66 
        - When the kids  Aerows   Mar-08-11 05:58 PM   #69 
           - and us women have to really get beyond always seeing it like this and not addressing how we raise  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 07:15 PM   #121 
              - No arguments from me on that :)  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:21 PM   #127 
  - I don't pick fights with people smaller than me because that's wrong. And I don't  Ilsa   Mar-08-11 06:24 PM   #81 
  - These two sentances pretty much sum it all up... +1  OneTenthofOnePercent   Mar-08-11 06:27 PM   #87 
  - Jesus H. Christ what is this fucking country coming to?  TK421   Mar-08-11 06:27 PM   #85 
  - No person  TicketyBoo   Mar-08-11 06:36 PM   #97 
  - How do you know she hit him? nt  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 06:39 PM   #99 
  - Personally?  TicketyBoo   Mar-10-11 12:49 PM   #259 
     - There are plenty of men who attack women without provocation. It happens  Liquorice   Mar-11-11 02:23 AM   #263 
        - Of course not.  TicketyBoo   Mar-11-11 08:52 AM   #264 
  - Well then...  Aerows   Mar-08-11 06:44 PM   #103 
     - +1. This is all very disturbing to me. People are arguing that this  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 06:58 PM   #109 
        - Pretty much  Aerows   Mar-08-11 07:15 PM   #122 
        - again, not saying he is justified.... saying she is not justfied in hitting.  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 10:16 PM   #173 
        - she didn't hit anyone so why the focus on she was not justified in hitting?  pitohui   Mar-09-11 03:58 PM   #239 
           - for the first EIGHT hours we had one story. and that was a part of the story. late last night  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 04:11 PM   #243 
        - Or, why didn't he just stay in his car?  Quantess   Mar-09-11 12:51 PM   #222 
        - Well since she is unable to give a statement...  Horse with no Name   Mar-08-11 07:24 PM   #130 
        - i dont know about others, i am not saying he has the right to hit, i say she does NOT have the right  seabeyond   Mar-08-11 10:14 PM   #172 
        - Witnesses at the scene say he hit her repeatedly. She didn't hit  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 11:19 PM   #177 
        - Nobody is arguing that she has a right to hit him.  wickerwoman   Mar-08-11 11:29 PM   #179 
           - She didn't hit him. He hit her repeatedly however. ...Editing to add  Liquorice   Mar-08-11 11:32 PM   #181 
              - he also cried the blues that no one told him how badly she was injured  TorchTheWitch   Mar-09-11 01:43 AM   #184 
              - Yep, the response to this story has been shocking. There are apparently  Liquorice   Mar-09-11 12:55 PM   #224 
              - It would appear that we have many...  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 12:40 PM   #219 
        - you and me both  TorchTheWitch   Mar-09-11 01:28 AM   #183 
  - Deleted for a rule violation. nt  madinmaryland   Mar-08-11 06:43 PM   #101 
  - probably won't, don't you think?  TK421   Mar-08-11 06:45 PM   #104 
     - Probably won't what? I didn't say anything about Michael Vick or  madinmaryland   Mar-08-11 07:37 PM   #138 
        - My mistake then....I thought you weren't a douchebag  TK421   Mar-08-11 08:13 PM   #160 
           - I didn't say that I was a douchebag, either.  madinmaryland   Mar-08-11 08:21 PM   #162 
              - yeah, I know  TK421   Mar-08-11 08:49 PM   #169 
                 - ...  madinmaryland   Mar-08-11 09:34 PM   #170 
  - That must have been one really great parking space  Generic Brad   Mar-08-11 08:01 PM   #155 
  - Jail for years. Hopefully someone will beat the shit out of him, repeatedly, disgusting pos. nt  Skip Intro   Mar-08-11 11:16 PM   #175 
  - Dammit, stories like this are bad for my blood pressure.  MilesColtrane   Mar-09-11 12:10 AM   #182 
  - I've noticed more road rage than ever before  Mimosa   Mar-09-11 09:43 AM   #188 
  - New Update  Aerows   Mar-09-11 09:58 AM   #190 
  - This is why men shouldn't hit women. It's also why women shouldn't hit men. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-09-11 09:59 AM   #191 
  - Now witnesses say...  Aerows   Mar-09-11 10:01 AM   #192 
     - self delete - found the link  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-09-11 10:13 AM   #199 
  - Before clicking on this thread  SOS   Mar-09-11 10:09 AM   #196 
  - He got out of the car--that shows intent to harm.  Dappleganger   Mar-09-11 10:09 AM   #197 
  - He lost his temper. Simple as that.  VoteProgressive   Mar-09-11 10:20 AM   #207 
  - Here's Faux News Twit Meghyn Kelly on this story  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 10:32 AM   #210 
  - This makes me terribly sad and a little bit ashamed  cherokeeprogressive   Mar-09-11 12:15 PM   #218 
     - She didn't hit him. He just said she did so he could claim self-defense. For some  Liquorice   Mar-09-11 12:46 PM   #221 
        - the simple fact is, if there is no video and witnesses saying she didnt hit, ALL this debate is moot  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 02:50 PM   #233 
           - Not to belittle any one point  LanternWaste   Mar-09-11 03:29 PM   #234 
           - +1 Love your analogy  RamboLiberal   Mar-09-11 03:57 PM   #238 
           - petite female slapping a moderate to large male can actually be called violence  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 04:15 PM   #244 
           - You're right.. It's a silly argument that people are making here--that a  Liquorice   Mar-09-11 05:38 PM   #246 
           - If Luxembourg attacked, the US military would decimate them  Taitertots   Mar-10-11 09:48 AM   #258 
              - Which appears to be what he did,  LanternWaste   Mar-10-11 02:43 PM   #260 
           - Yes, but why were you so willing to believe the attacker in this  Liquorice   Mar-09-11 05:28 PM   #245 
              - because this story really is not relevent. the issue discussed is a woman allowed to hit with not  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 05:43 PM   #248 
                 - I just completely disagree with you. First, I never said my  Liquorice   Mar-09-11 05:48 PM   #250 
                    - regardless of the position that a person argued, everyone went on this basis of she hit first  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 05:52 PM   #251 
                       - We do know she didn't hit him. How many witnesses do you need to  Liquorice   Mar-09-11 06:01 PM   #252 
                          - lawyer says he has a video. i am sorry that i leave things open. that i dont know for fact he does  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 07:14 PM   #253 
                             - His lawyer is floating the video story. It's not true. There were witnesses at the  Liquorice   Mar-09-11 07:42 PM   #254 
                                - there is so much wrong in your post, i could not even begin to correct you on it all.  seabeyond   Mar-09-11 07:52 PM   #255 
  - He'll have a lot of time to think over his "apology" in prison.  Javaman   Mar-09-11 10:39 AM   #213 
  - I think he should face Mike Tyson to understand size and power issues.  RedCloud   Mar-09-11 10:54 AM   #216 
  - He is the one who got out of his car.  Quantess   Mar-09-11 12:45 PM   #220 
  - it is obvious this guy is the aggressor, there is no self defense here  pitohui   Mar-09-11 04:02 PM   #241 
     - Exactly. You've summed up a lot of my thoughts about this thread with this post.. nt  Liquorice   Mar-09-11 05:43 PM   #247 
     - Great post.  Quantess   Mar-10-11 02:43 AM   #256 
  - Deleted message  Name removed   Mar-10-11 09:01 AM   #257 
     - Soooo Awesome, Bro!!! High 5 n shit!  Quantess   Mar-11-11 01:49 AM   #262 
 

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