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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Mar-07-11 02:53 PM
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22. +1
we are sadly, almost shockingly after his excellent performance on the campaign trail, lacking a LEADER in Obama. If he would actually LEAD, people would indeed follow. All that "hope and change" BS - and his new chief of staff is who again? ugh nevermind.

But in response to the OP - I will NOT be told I have to vote for ineffective Dems just to hold off republican boogymen. In fact, if that's the best Dems can offer, they need to seriously re-think their strategy. Those days are over for me. I won't stay home, but I won't vote for crap either.
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  -The Lesser of Two Evils? maxrandb  Mar-07-11 02:13 PM   #0 
  - INTIMIDATION!  JuniperLea   Mar-07-11 02:14 PM   #1 
  - Actually you can thank Obama and Biden for opening their stupid mouths  Rex   Mar-07-11 02:17 PM   #2 
  - True .. .however, Democrats have been staying home for decades ....  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 02:21 PM   #4 
  - And now we have to replace all those that won't vote again  Rex   Mar-07-11 02:29 PM   #11 
  - Bingo!  Scuba   Mar-07-11 04:01 PM   #23 
     - And so have some Republicans, for the same reason. Negligable - negligable roughly balances to zero.  BzaDem   Mar-07-11 11:07 PM   #33 
  - Amen  Aerows   Mar-09-11 12:35 AM   #47 
  - Voting against your conscience is voting for a downward spiral --  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 02:19 PM   #3 
  - Oh yea  DFab420   Mar-07-11 02:22 PM   #6 
  - If pple didn't know Sanders was a socialist & just heard him talk, I think it's not that far fetched  jtown1123   Mar-07-11 02:29 PM   #12 
     - That and once you hit the national stage  DFab420   Mar-07-11 02:34 PM   #15 
        - Why would Sanders want to hid the fact that he supports socially responsible policies?  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 10:32 PM   #24 
  - But you have to be reasonable  maxrandb   Mar-07-11 02:28 PM   #10 
  - You think you're being "reasonable" -- ???  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 10:37 PM   #25 
  - Except your proposal of enabling the greater of two evils is voting for a MUCH faster spiral.  BzaDem   Mar-07-11 10:53 PM   #29 
     - Only if you expected Obama to trample our best chance yet for  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 11:14 PM   #34 
        - Actually, what I said is true regardless of your post (which was completely irrelevant to my point).  BzaDem   Mar-08-11 04:36 PM   #43 
  - It isn't just a choice between voting parties or staying home  AKDavy   Mar-07-11 02:22 PM   #5 
  - Exactly ... if the Dems are counting on voters "having no place to go" ... they will  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 10:43 PM   #26 
     - Then they'll just replace the tiny few purported progressive third party voters with voters  BzaDem   Mar-07-11 10:56 PM   #30 
        - You're saying, there is no hope EXCEPT that the Dems will continue to move to right????  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 11:17 PM   #35 
        - I'm merely saying that supporting third parties always pushes the Democratic party to the right.  BzaDem   Mar-08-11 04:16 PM   #39 
           - Your conclusion was that no matter what the voter does Dem Party will move to right ...  defendandprotect   Mar-08-11 09:40 PM   #44 
              - A write-in has the same effect as a third party vote.  BzaDem   Mar-09-11 12:32 AM   #46 
        - It isn't a question of need  AKDavy   Mar-08-11 09:50 AM   #38 
           - But if all one is doing is enabling Republicans, does it really matter how much they can falsely  BzaDem   Mar-08-11 04:19 PM   #40 
              - Sorry no more "least worst" voting  AKDavy   Mar-09-11 11:40 AM   #48 
                 - Wouldn't the 100k deaths that would never have happened if Nader didn't run  BzaDem   Mar-09-11 04:34 PM   #51 
                    - I'm sorry, but that's bullshit  AKDavy   Mar-09-11 05:50 PM   #53 
                    - Sorry about that strong response, but...  AKDavy   Mar-09-11 05:57 PM   #56 
  - I'll vote for the most progressive, anti-war, candidate on the ballot..or write one in.  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-07-11 02:24 PM   #7 
  - All three of the people you quoted would laugh at their own quotes if they were asked about them  BzaDem   Mar-07-11 10:59 PM   #31 
  - So, you're saying they would sell out the revolution now?  Tierra_y_Libertad   Mar-07-11 11:21 PM   #37 
     - Not at all. I'm merely saying your conception of the revolution is laughably ridiculous.  BzaDem   Mar-08-11 04:20 PM   #41 
  - Remember, Founders were strongly anti-corporate and feared the power of capital ...  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 11:20 PM   #36 
  - Democrats aren't perfect  Proud Liberal Dem   Mar-07-11 02:25 PM   #8 
  - NO!  maxrandb   Mar-07-11 02:33 PM   #14 
  - Yes, it IS amazing  Proud Liberal Dem   Mar-07-11 02:39 PM   #20 
  - Agree with the OP  Oasis_   Mar-07-11 11:03 PM   #32 
     - Raising taxes on ANY American is a sure loser???  Raksha   Mar-09-11 06:19 PM   #59 
  - Would we have guessed that in electing Obama he would have defeated universal health care?  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 10:48 PM   #27 
  - Vote Cthulu -- why settle for the LESSER of two evils?  damntexdem   Mar-07-11 02:27 PM   #9 
  - I'd rather vote for Cthulu than the GOP.  Rex   Mar-07-11 02:31 PM   #13 
  - 5 - Year Proposal to Balance the Federal Budget  hgrubkcir1   Mar-07-11 02:35 PM   #16 
  - I was just looking for a change in direction.  mmonk   Mar-07-11 02:36 PM   #17 
  - Yup, exactly.  Zoeisright   Mar-07-11 02:39 PM   #18 
  - Repetition doesn't make this false dichotomy any less false.  DirkGently   Mar-07-11 02:39 PM   #19 
  - And now for MORE partisanship, Please !  Liberal Insights   Mar-09-11 05:56 PM   #55 
  - If SOMEONE would Stand Up for THIS overwhelming majority,  bvar22   Mar-07-11 02:45 PM   #21 
  - +1  slay   Mar-07-11 02:53 PM   #22 
  - Unfortunately, inaction and silence can also be bought ....  defendandprotect   Mar-07-11 10:52 PM   #28 
  - yup. 'by their works you will know them.'  NuttyFluffers   Mar-09-11 06:00 PM   #57 
  - So George W. Bush represented Wall Street and big business and President Obama represents us,  Better Believe It   Mar-08-11 04:29 PM   #42 
  - You forgot the sarcasm smilie.  Raksha   Mar-09-11 06:23 PM   #60 
  - SCOTUS  shanti   Mar-08-11 09:52 PM   #45 
  - I 100% agree, Obama is better than any GOP candidate. But still a disappointment to me.  VoteProgressive   Mar-09-11 11:49 AM   #49 
  - Fuck that.  sudopod   Mar-09-11 12:04 PM   #50 
  - How many folks here on DU did not vote the last election?  kentuck   Mar-09-11 04:38 PM   #52 
  - yeah... all we need to do is swallow the bullshit you feed yourself  fascisthunter   Mar-09-11 05:53 PM   #54 
  - What does what's going on in WI have to do with Democrats other than some non-elected Dems?  readmoreoften   Mar-09-11 06:07 PM   #58 

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