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Sun Mar-06-11 04:35 PM
Response to Reply #5 |
| 6. "we might as well put a REAL socialist in the WH" |
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Sure, that's totally going to happen.
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| -Obama alternatives |
rdking647 |
Mar-06-11 04:29 PM |
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dionysus |
Mar-06-11 04:29 PM |
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I would just like to see Obama be better. |
tekisui |
Mar-06-11 04:30 PM |
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but there is a limit to what he can get through congress. |
rdking647 |
Mar-06-11 04:31 PM |
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Right, he barely got HCR though with ZERO Republican votes.... |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 04:40 PM |
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We couldn't get it through the Senate. Lieberman killed it. |
Pirate Smile |
Mar-06-11 06:02 PM |
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because single payer couldnt get out of committee. it sucks, but it's a fact. |
dionysus |
Mar-07-11 09:45 AM |
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He has a HUGE Bully Pulpit that has gone virtually unused |
Bandit |
Mar-07-11 10:04 AM |
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Agreed. Polling shows Americans prefer progressive economic policy |
jtown1123 |
Mar-07-11 10:27 AM |
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The problem with trying to elect someone how is going to do everything DU wants |
Drale |
Mar-06-11 04:32 PM |
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A Democrat that stands with labor, to begin with. |
LWolf |
Mar-06-11 04:33 PM |
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"we might as well put a REAL socialist in the WH" |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 04:35 PM |
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It can happen if we get the right message out and control the teabaggers |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 04:43 PM |
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How do you plan to "control the teabaggers"?nt |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 04:45 PM |
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somebody needs to show just how racist they are |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 04:53 PM |
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A hell of a lot of voters sure think we did it this time. |
LWolf |
Mar-06-11 04:47 PM |
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Those voters who think we elected a socialist with Obama are |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 04:48 PM |
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What's the difference? They'll vote for one candidate |
LWolf |
Mar-06-11 04:52 PM |
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The people who labeled Obama a socialist did not vote for him. |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 05:05 PM |
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So they didn't vote then, they won't vote now. |
LWolf |
Mar-06-11 05:45 PM |
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Here's what HAS happened. All polls show that a vast |
sabrina 1 |
Mar-06-11 06:05 PM |
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Playing it safe with Feingold and Dean? |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-06-11 04:36 PM |
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It's all about the packaging. |
LWolf |
Mar-06-11 04:50 PM |
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+1000 |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 05:05 PM |
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We also know that neither can win even the Dem nomination. We know that with certainty. |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-06-11 07:26 PM |
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Oh, really? |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 07:29 PM |
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Bookmark it. |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-06-11 07:41 PM |
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Well, ok. But here's my reaction to that: |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-06-11 07:25 PM |
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Well then thats all you are saying. |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 07:31 PM |
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Yeah, I said what I'm saying. |
Buzz Clik |
Mar-06-11 07:41 PM |
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I've never made those claims, |
LWolf |
Mar-06-11 07:53 PM |
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how many states do you thing either of them would win. |
rdking647 |
Mar-06-11 04:37 PM |
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Yes, let's have our candidate move more to the right... NOT |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 04:41 PM |
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I'd like to keep all neoliberals and neoconservatives out of the oval office. |
LWolf |
Mar-06-11 04:51 PM |
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Feingold won more times in Wisconsin than Obama did in Illinois |
hfojvt |
Mar-06-11 04:55 PM |
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Hey, news flash--just because the goddamn President of the United States |
Arkana |
Mar-06-11 06:10 PM |
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Here's a news flash for you: |
LWolf |
Mar-06-11 07:17 PM |
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We need a primary challenge |
Cobalt-60 |
Mar-06-11 04:35 PM |
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Uh huh. |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Mar-06-11 04:50 PM |
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"President Mike Huckabee:" |
emulatorloo |
Mar-06-11 05:51 PM |
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"a true far left candidate would have no chance" |
PSPS |
Mar-06-11 04:36 PM |
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No kidding. Where are these 'far left candidates' ?? |
leftstreet |
Mar-06-11 04:39 PM |
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feingold lost |
rdking647 |
Mar-06-11 04:39 PM |
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That was more than a half a century ago. Unemployment was |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 04:40 PM |
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I wonder what the current unemployment rate would be |
northernlights |
Mar-06-11 05:00 PM |
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Bingo. |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 04:43 PM |
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FDR, much as I like and admire him, was not 'far left'. Eugene Debs |
coalition_unwilling |
Mar-06-11 09:33 PM |
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Oh the cupboard is bare... |
Chan790 |
Mar-06-11 04:38 PM |
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Absolutely; it's more important than ever that local races be |
blondeatlast |
Mar-06-11 09:10 PM |
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Not because he didn't do EVERYTHING I wanted... |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 04:39 PM |
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"Right now, Dennis Kucinich looks like the best candidate." |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 04:41 PM |
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No, because of his stance on the issues.... |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 04:42 PM |
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Then why not just cede the US to the republicans? There is |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 04:44 PM |
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Really? What's the difference? |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 04:46 PM |
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Have you seen the GOP budget proposals? They rally the |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 04:59 PM |
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And which of these policies have the Dems stood up to? |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 05:20 PM |
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You can't be fucking serious. Please show me where he agrees |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 05:22 PM |
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Show me where he stood up and said "we can't do that!" |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 06:27 PM |
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With you, Scuba! |
snot |
Mar-07-11 12:41 PM |
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The difference? Democrats are completely ineffective at getting their programs enacted. (NT) |
Tesha |
Mar-06-11 06:38 PM |
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That depends on.. |
sendero |
Mar-06-11 05:30 PM |
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Yep |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Mar-06-11 04:54 PM |
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kuchinich would be like mcgovern |
rdking647 |
Mar-06-11 04:42 PM |
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Are you at the right website? |
Avant Guardian |
Mar-06-11 08:25 PM |
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more like im a realist |
rdking647 |
Mar-06-11 09:21 PM |
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So you are saying that, realisticly the Democratic party should become right wing? |
Avant Guardian |
Mar-07-11 08:01 AM |
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theres a big deiiference |
rdking647 |
Mar-07-11 08:08 AM |
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You make no sense whatsoever |
Avant Guardian |
Mar-07-11 06:43 PM |
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+ |
Bluebear |
Mar-08-11 05:59 AM |
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nice strawman. the fact of the matter is, dennis would lose in a landslide. |
dionysus |
Mar-07-11 09:47 AM |
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50 states. Kucinich can't even win a state-wide office in Ohio. |
Ikonoklast |
Mar-06-11 09:07 PM |
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You are upset about the SCOTUS appointments? |
uppityperson |
Mar-06-11 04:45 PM |
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Then they can say hi to another Fathead Thomas, Scalito, or Roberts |
politicasista |
Mar-08-11 03:57 PM |
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you shouldrealize there's a problem when your candidate can't poll above a few points. |
dionysus |
Mar-07-11 09:33 AM |
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Our problem |
al_liberal |
Mar-06-11 04:42 PM |
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You can ask this a million times (and I swear it's been asked a million times) |
Number23 |
Mar-06-11 04:42 PM |
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Well said. |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Mar-06-11 04:56 PM |
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John Kerry and Al Gore are both better than Barack Obama |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 04:48 PM |
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al gore gave up |
ReggieVeggie |
Mar-06-11 04:58 PM |
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Hindsight is 20/20. |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 05:32 PM |
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well, hindsight is the introduction of W as president |
ReggieVeggie |
Mar-06-11 06:16 PM |
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I think that would be buttview. |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 06:31 PM |
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Of course, no one has any idea what kind of president either |
NYCGirl |
Mar-06-11 04:59 PM |
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The whole point of this thread is to speculate. |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 05:01 PM |
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The poster stated they were "both better." How do they know? |
NYCGirl |
Mar-06-11 05:39 PM |
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Kerrys been in the Senate for a very long time |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 05:56 PM |
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Posted in wrong place. |
NYCGirl |
Mar-06-11 05:37 PM |
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I choose Evan Bayh. Because if we're going to have to deal with a centrist, let's make it clear to.. |
JVS |
Mar-06-11 04:54 PM |
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I don't believe Obama ever came out as a far left liberal. |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Mar-06-11 05:00 PM |
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Watch Fox news for an hour. |
JVS |
Mar-06-11 05:05 PM |
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Oh please. |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Mar-06-11 07:44 PM |
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I'm using the fact that there are a lot of people in swing states that consider Obama a radical. |
JVS |
Mar-06-11 07:51 PM |
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you mean that he never promised to change things? |
hfojvt |
Mar-06-11 05:20 PM |
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Looks like a lot of people trying to vote this topic down. |
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin |
Mar-06-11 04:59 PM |
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Necessity is the mother invention. If an alternative doesn't exist then create one. |
TheKentuckian |
Mar-06-11 05:00 PM |
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The question is what policies he should replace, not what person should replace him. |
rug |
Mar-06-11 05:05 PM |
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Maybe he could run on the same platform as in '08? That would be a change. |
Scuba |
Mar-06-11 05:23 PM |
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Even though I am dissapointed, Obama is still the best we have |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 05:26 PM |
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Dr. Dean, of course |
MannyGoldstein |
Mar-06-11 05:34 PM |
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What if he just got better policy? |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-06-11 05:35 PM |
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You misspelled anything. |
mmonk |
Mar-06-11 05:41 PM |
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Well put. nt |
MannyGoldstein |
Mar-06-11 05:44 PM |
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. |
tekisui |
Mar-06-11 05:54 PM |
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i cant get that comment out of my mind |
Bluebear |
Mar-07-11 03:07 PM |
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This thread is entirely unproductive |
Arkana |
Mar-06-11 06:09 PM |
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I agree and it is in the wrong forum. |
tekisui |
Mar-06-11 06:37 PM |
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The only alternatives that are needed are... |
butterfly77 |
Mar-06-11 06:16 PM |
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We probably will have a choice only everyone will be afraid to vote for him. NADER /Green party |
Shagbark Hickory |
Mar-06-11 06:33 PM |
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now that's funny. 'since alot of people here dont like Obama anymore' |
spanone |
Mar-06-11 06:40 PM |
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hmmm not a single rec, redkings647. wonder why...? |
stlsaxman |
Mar-06-11 06:41 PM |
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I do not think we are going to get any serious challengers in the |
jwirr |
Mar-06-11 06:52 PM |
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Bernie Sanders! I would love to live in a country run by that man. |
jillan |
Mar-06-11 07:42 PM |
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Me too. |
mmonk |
Mar-07-11 10:36 AM |
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These pretzels are making me thirsty. |
undeterred |
Mar-06-11 07:54 PM |
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Here - |
TBF |
Mar-07-11 08:24 AM |
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Obama is doing fine |
underpants |
Mar-06-11 07:57 PM |
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people here on DU are falling for the rightwing media spin.' - The media didn't walk with Jeb |
Bluebear |
Mar-06-11 08:18 PM |
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+1. nt |
Lorien |
Mar-07-11 12:45 PM |
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The PRIMARY SYSTEM has destroyed us. |
LIBERterryAN |
Mar-06-11 09:05 PM |
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Bingo. |
politicasista |
Mar-08-11 04:10 PM |
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Mar-06-11 07:58 PM |
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'becasue he didint do everything they wanted' - FAIL |
Bluebear |
Mar-06-11 08:15 PM |
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An UN for the pink pony ..."becasue he didint do everything they wanted" -- |
defendandprotect |
Mar-06-11 09:27 PM |
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how many states |
rdking647 |
Mar-07-11 08:15 AM |
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maybe you guys can picket bernies house until he decides to run.... |
dionysus |
Mar-07-11 01:53 PM |
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I'll make my feelings very clear. |
white_wolf |
Mar-06-11 09:31 PM |
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Is the point of this post is for us to throw out names and then for you to tell us how stupid we are |
Lucky 13 |
Mar-07-11 08:18 AM |
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Mar-07-11 08:22 AM |
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It will be whoever it will be. The Party will make a candidate from scratch if it has to. |
BlueIris |
Mar-07-11 09:22 AM |
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Doesn't matter. |
GSLevel9 |
Mar-07-11 10:23 AM |
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Is that the only reason you wanna give Hillary a shot? n/t |
Hutzpa |
Mar-07-11 10:25 AM |
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well since Bill can't take a third term... :D |
GSLevel9 |
Mar-07-11 11:29 AM |
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Some of the comments on this thread are |
Hutzpa |
Mar-07-11 10:29 AM |
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Here's 14 from WISCONSIN!!!! |
grahamhgreen |
Mar-07-11 10:33 AM |
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ThirdPartyUnderground thanks you for your service |
Moral_Imagination |
Mar-07-11 10:35 AM |
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Candidate Obama wasn't too bad. That guy would have been better than what we have now. |
Edweird |
Mar-07-11 11:30 AM |
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Mar-07-11 12:45 PM |
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Bernie! |
G_j |
Mar-07-11 06:44 PM |
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