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| 48. That is an easy enough answer. But totally fucking wrong and simplistic. nt. |
| -400 Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans combined. Let's out them. |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 12:04 PM |
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TBF is one |
HEyHEY |
Mar-06-11 12:05 PM |
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Good place to start. |
Horse with no Name |
Mar-06-11 12:06 PM |
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the list beyond the top 10 |
TalkingDog |
Mar-06-11 12:12 PM |
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So all those people have 1 billion or more. |
pnwmom |
Mar-06-11 01:22 PM |
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Weath that high should be illegal. |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 04:57 PM |
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It should certainly be taxed a lot more than it is. n/t |
pnwmom |
Mar-06-11 05:15 PM |
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I Know One of Them |
otohara |
Mar-06-11 05:36 PM |
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There should be a profile on one of them, every single day... |
drokhole |
Mar-06-11 12:10 PM |
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i dont think they would care |
rdking647 |
Mar-06-11 04:22 PM |
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Excellent idea. Anything to expose their greed. |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 04:58 PM |
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And they need to be put on decks of playing cards......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-06-11 06:19 PM |
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Praise Facebook and twitter with one side of our mouths and curse them with the other. |
dkf |
Mar-06-11 12:11 PM |
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Let their works be known |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 12:13 PM |
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Are you talking about how much a person gives to a good cause? Charity? |
Luminous Animal |
Mar-06-11 12:21 PM |
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To list is not to condemn. |
Jackpine Radical |
Mar-06-11 12:16 PM |
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According to the logic of your argument, we aren't |
TalkingDog |
Mar-06-11 12:16 PM |
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The word is EXPLOIT. They shouldn't be allowed to ....... |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-06-11 06:21 PM |
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Maybe users should have been charging them to post on TwitFace |
leftstreet |
Mar-06-11 12:25 PM |
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The internal conflicts of progressives. |
bluestate10 |
Mar-06-11 03:58 PM |
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Take it. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-06-11 12:17 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Mar-06-11 12:23 PM |
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That is totally unrealistic... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 12:27 PM |
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It's unrealistic because they have the wealth to control public opinion. |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-06-11 12:30 PM |
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WTF? |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 12:34 PM |
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Do you not understand that at some point these people started making too much? |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 05:01 PM |
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WTF............. |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-06-11 06:23 PM |
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Another stupid strawman argument... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 06:37 PM |
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A "stupid" idea= your opinion........... |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-06-11 10:25 PM |
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Okay.... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 11:12 PM |
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ok |
melm00se |
Mar-07-11 04:36 AM |
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How will making the rich pay their fair share turn us into a third world country? |
Taverner |
Mar-07-11 07:59 PM |
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Well, maybe--just maybe!--the people are in the process of taking BACK public opinion. |
Raksha |
Mar-06-11 03:54 PM |
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That is an easy enough answer. But totally fucking wrong and simplistic. nt. |
bluestate10 |
Mar-06-11 04:05 PM |
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My method involves progressives and moderates taking control |
bluestate10 |
Mar-06-11 04:04 PM |
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I couldn't agree more |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:06 PM |
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capitalism never has been & cannot ever be democratic. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 04:49 PM |
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Thanks for your caricature of capitalism, but... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:53 PM |
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i have no idea what it is because there's no such animal. you, on the other hand, |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 04:58 PM |
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Oh, bullshit... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:00 PM |
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the fraction of profit taken by "small & medium-sized" businesses has |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 05:02 PM |
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Why don't you... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:05 PM |
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it's not something that can be proved in a pithy post. go look at the data yourself, |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 05:06 PM |
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I did give it... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:08 PM |
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i just did. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 05:30 PM |
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No, you... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:32 PM |
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Name removed |
Mar-06-11 06:55 PM |
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Hear, hear! :) Community-owned ventures. Yep. n/t |
OneGrassRoot |
Mar-06-11 04:14 PM |
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There you go! The local communities decide what to do with the profits. |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 05:04 PM |
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Even better. Take it BACK! Give it back to the people it was stolen from. n/t |
Horse with no Name |
Mar-06-11 12:41 PM |
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+1000000 |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 01:40 PM |
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take it back. |
nashville_brook |
Mar-06-11 02:40 PM |
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in some cases |
BobbyBoring |
Mar-06-11 03:12 PM |
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So? His heirs won't be. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Mar-06-11 05:38 PM |
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Agreed. It's time to take back what they stole from us. |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 04:59 PM |
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But that is okay, they earned every penny and all us poor workers |
Rex |
Mar-06-11 12:23 PM |
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Understand your point but I believe the facts are that 1/2 to 1% of citizens own about 50% of our |
jody |
Mar-06-11 12:36 PM |
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Those are the facts as I understand them as well, and they're appalling. n/t |
OneGrassRoot |
Mar-06-11 02:42 PM |
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Why would we want to |
TicketyBoo |
Mar-06-11 02:54 PM |
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If they really want to help, then a 90% tax rate would help a lot |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 03:02 PM |
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So take that up |
TicketyBoo |
Mar-06-11 05:35 PM |
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So that leaves the remaining 99.5% which are mostly hoarders |
high density |
Mar-06-11 03:17 PM |
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Count me out too. Some on DU despise wealth, I just can't understand why. |
bluestate10 |
Mar-06-11 04:09 PM |
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one's heart has nothing to do with it. concentrated economic power = |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 04:53 PM |
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I used to have you on "Ignore" |
TicketyBoo |
Mar-06-11 05:12 PM |
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yes, i would. however, my charitable giving doesn't have the power to corrupt |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 06:13 PM |
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So you think |
TicketyBoo |
Mar-07-11 04:03 AM |
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What she said! |
Taverner |
Mar-07-11 05:45 PM |
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big bank accounts = greed That tells us all we need to know about their heart. |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 05:06 PM |
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Nope. You're wrong. |
TicketyBoo |
Mar-06-11 05:17 PM |
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So you are saying... |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 05:22 PM |
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I am saying |
TicketyBoo |
Mar-06-11 05:33 PM |
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And a 90% tax rate would hurt them one bit. |
baldguy |
Mar-06-11 03:01 PM |
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Forbes richest 400 people in U.S.A.2010 list link: |
1776Forever |
Mar-06-11 03:28 PM |
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Notice that 6 out of 10 inherited their wealth. Also, about "taking it back".... |
OneGrassRoot |
Mar-06-11 03:33 PM |
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Excellent post |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 03:45 PM |
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This is an assault on our quality of life in this country. I think the rich would have no issues |
1776Forever |
Mar-06-11 03:57 PM |
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"How can we ensure those tax dollars go where they are needed?" My question also. nt |
jody |
Mar-06-11 04:03 PM |
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Make everyone go on a 'public campaign funds only' for a while |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:18 PM |
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IMO putting the SSN of each voter in a hat & drawing for congressperson can be no worse than present |
jody |
Mar-06-11 04:20 PM |
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Fucking unbelievable... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:25 PM |
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Considered how easily our current Constitution allows no more than a Corporatocracy... |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:40 PM |
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Really? |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:42 PM |
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Well, explain where we are now |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:46 PM |
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I asked you... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:47 PM |
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Claim of what? |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:52 PM |
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Yeah... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:55 PM |
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Excellent idea. No more stolen elections by the neocons that way. |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 05:08 PM |
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Squeeze the rock if you have to nt |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:16 PM |
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Exile them and take their money |
SoCalDem |
Mar-06-11 03:34 PM |
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This is the... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 03:36 PM |
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It's called "Wealth Redistribution" |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:19 PM |
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LBJ's Great Society was not about... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:22 PM |
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Point 1: Them leaving the country because the taxes are so high is not exiling |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:37 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:40 PM |
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Here is all I am saying: Make the richest 2% or so visible |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:42 PM |
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In other words... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:45 PM |
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If Code Pink does that, its OK |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:47 PM |
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You're both wrong... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:48 PM |
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How about the air-horning of Pinochet |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:50 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:57 PM |
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Then why are you on this progressive board if you don't like progressive ideas? |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 05:09 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Mar-06-11 05:12 PM |
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How is confiscating someone's wealth and... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:14 PM |
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How is it not? |
Xenotime |
Mar-06-11 05:18 PM |
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Wealth redistribution is not... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:23 PM |
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How is wealth distribution |
50000feet |
Mar-06-11 06:12 PM |
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So you are saying taxation is theft? |
Taverner |
Mar-07-11 07:59 PM |
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the us government exists to redistribute wealth, mostly from the bottom to the top. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 06:23 PM |
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Hey all....the mods are watching this thread - just a reminder... |
NRaleighLiberal |
Mar-06-11 03:43 PM |
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What good is outing them going to do? I will answer, NADA, not one FT. |
bluestate10 |
Mar-06-11 03:48 PM |
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Let me just put in a plug for... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 03:52 PM |
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"democratic capitalism" is an oxymoron |
inna |
Mar-06-11 03:59 PM |
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Mar-06-11 04:01 PM |
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Absolutely not. It is alive and well among those that have the guts to make a |
bluestate10 |
Mar-06-11 04:18 PM |
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the fact that it is difficult to start up a business is irrelevant to the issue of the economic |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 04:55 PM |
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Except thousands of businesses are started... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:59 PM |
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and most of them fail in the same year. there are fewer independent businesses |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 05:01 PM |
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Please prove that... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:04 PM |
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go look at historical irs data. i've done the exercise, do it yourself. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 05:04 PM |
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It's YOUR claim. |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:06 PM |
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it's a claim that requires more than a link, it requires a study of the data. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 05:07 PM |
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Then link me to... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:09 PM |
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i didn't get the information by looking at a "study" but by studying the irs & labor data for myself |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 05:24 PM |
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That doesn't remotely support the claim... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:29 PM |
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it doesn't? |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 05:39 PM |
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Ummm, no... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:41 PM |
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the percent of the population that's self-employed (working for self & not for another) |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 06:16 PM |
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I give up... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 06:32 PM |
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sba defines "small" business as 500 to 1500 employees, receipts up to 21.5 million. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 06:35 PM |
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Yeah, yeah, yeah... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 06:40 PM |
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Do you realize that your posts conflict with |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 06:44 PM |
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your definition of "contradict" doesn't interest me. |
Hannah Bell |
Mar-06-11 07:24 PM |
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Of course it doesn't n/t |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 07:26 PM |
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Mar-06-11 07:16 PM |
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Only to people who don't have... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 04:29 PM |
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Oh inna, you've kicked the anthill now............... |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-06-11 06:50 PM |
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Why don't you educate yourself about... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 07:15 PM |
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Sweetie, your little "democratic capitalism" works GREAT............ |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-06-11 10:35 PM |
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So, tell me what you don't like about it |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 11:13 PM |
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LOL true that |
Taverner |
Mar-07-11 05:40 PM |
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Suspension of Disbelief, good call.......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-07-11 05:47 PM |
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Dude.... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-07-11 06:05 PM |
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A quick read of "Atlas Shrugged" reveals the capitalist mindset perfectly |
Taverner |
Mar-07-11 07:55 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-07-11 05:50 PM |
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rich people |
rdking647 |
Mar-06-11 04:25 PM |
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Partially yes |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:48 PM |
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Thing is, that would be an illegal company |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:53 PM |
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That is bullshit... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:02 PM |
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(1) How is that bullshit? That is law - as is the Citizens United case. |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 05:10 PM |
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Then cite the... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:12 PM |
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Encyclopedia of Everyday Law |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 05:18 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:21 PM |
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I am? Wow, I would say it looked like quite the opposite |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 05:22 PM |
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Dude... |
SDuderstadt |
Mar-06-11 05:26 PM |
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The DU moderators want to add a comment here about "Let's make life hell for them" |
pinto |
Mar-06-11 03:49 PM |
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Thank you guys. :) n/t |
OneGrassRoot |
Mar-06-11 03:51 PM |
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To the mods: I apologize |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:02 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
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Mar-06-11 04:04 PM |
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So far, so good! |
NRaleighLiberal |
Mar-06-11 04:12 PM |
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Very Good Point |
Taverner |
Mar-08-11 02:29 PM |
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High percentage of "Ignored" posts on this thread. |
Raksha |
Mar-06-11 03:58 PM |
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I understand you're focused on individuals who are wealthy... |
OneGrassRoot |
Mar-06-11 04:17 PM |
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Wow. |
Rex |
Mar-06-11 04:18 PM |
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You're welcome! :) n/t |
OneGrassRoot |
Mar-06-11 04:18 PM |
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A more effective and thought out avenue at that. nt. |
bluestate10 |
Mar-06-11 04:21 PM |
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I love this |
Taverner |
Mar-06-11 04:40 PM |
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why that's so beautiful it deserves its own sticky post. |
NuttyFluffers |
Mar-07-11 04:33 AM |
#158 |
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I'm a huge fan of usuncut.org. Started in the UK... |
OneGrassRoot |
Mar-07-11 05:32 AM |
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Oprah is sure to be on that list |
Canuckistanian |
Mar-06-11 05:18 PM |
#117 |
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WTF |
pecwae |
Mar-07-11 05:29 AM |
#160 |
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BS |
FreeJoe |
Mar-06-11 06:00 PM |
#134 |
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