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48. That is an easy enough answer. But totally fucking wrong and simplistic. nt.
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  -400 Americans have more wealth than half of all Americans combined. Let's out them. Taverner  Mar-06-11 12:04 PM   #0 
  - TBF is one  HEyHEY   Mar-06-11 12:05 PM   #1 
  - Good place to start.  Horse with no Name   Mar-06-11 12:06 PM   #2 
  - the list beyond the top 10  TalkingDog   Mar-06-11 12:12 PM   #5 
  - So all those people have 1 billion or more.  pnwmom   Mar-06-11 01:22 PM   #19 
     - Weath that high should be illegal.  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 04:57 PM   #87 
        - It should certainly be taxed a lot more than it is. n/t  pnwmom   Mar-06-11 05:15 PM   #114 
  - I Know One of Them  otohara   Mar-06-11 05:36 PM   #130 
  - There should be a profile on one of them, every single day...  drokhole   Mar-06-11 12:10 PM   #3 
  - i dont think they would care  rdking647   Mar-06-11 04:22 PM   #62 
  - Excellent idea. Anything to expose their greed.  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 04:58 PM   #90 
  - And they need to be put on decks of playing cards.........  socialist_n_TN   Mar-06-11 06:19 PM   #138 
  - Praise Facebook and twitter with one side of our mouths and curse them with the other.  dkf   Mar-06-11 12:11 PM   #4 
  - Let their works be known  Taverner   Mar-06-11 12:13 PM   #6 
  - Are you talking about how much a person gives to a good cause? Charity?  Luminous Animal   Mar-06-11 12:21 PM   #10 
  - To list is not to condemn.  Jackpine Radical   Mar-06-11 12:16 PM   #7 
  - According to the logic of your argument, we aren't  TalkingDog   Mar-06-11 12:16 PM   #8 
  - The word is EXPLOIT. They shouldn't be allowed to .......  socialist_n_TN   Mar-06-11 06:21 PM   #139 
  - Maybe users should have been charging them to post on TwitFace  leftstreet   Mar-06-11 12:25 PM   #13 
  - The internal conflicts of progressives.  bluestate10   Mar-06-11 03:58 PM   #40 
  - Take it.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-06-11 12:17 PM   #9 
  - +1  leftstreet   Mar-06-11 12:23 PM   #12 
  - That is totally unrealistic...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 12:27 PM   #14 
  - It's unrealistic because they have the wealth to control public opinion.  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-06-11 12:30 PM   #15 
  - WTF?  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 12:34 PM   #16 
  - Do you not understand that at some point these people started making too much?  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 05:01 PM   #94 
  - WTF.............  socialist_n_TN   Mar-06-11 06:23 PM   #140 
     - Another stupid strawman argument...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 06:37 PM   #144 
        - A "stupid" idea= your opinion...........  socialist_n_TN   Mar-06-11 10:25 PM   #153 
           - Okay....  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 11:12 PM   #155 
           - ok  melm00se   Mar-07-11 04:36 AM   #159 
              - How will making the rich pay their fair share turn us into a third world country?  Taverner   Mar-07-11 07:59 PM   #168 
  - Well, maybe--just maybe!--the people are in the process of taking BACK public opinion.  Raksha   Mar-06-11 03:54 PM   #38 
  - That is an easy enough answer. But totally fucking wrong and simplistic. nt.  bluestate10   Mar-06-11 04:05 PM   #48 
  - My method involves progressives and moderates taking control  bluestate10   Mar-06-11 04:04 PM   #46 
     - I couldn't agree more  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:06 PM   #49 
     - capitalism never has been & cannot ever be democratic.  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 04:49 PM   #79 
     - Thanks for your caricature of capitalism, but...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:53 PM   #84 
        - i have no idea what it is because there's no such animal. you, on the other hand,  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 04:58 PM   #89 
           - Oh, bullshit...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:00 PM   #93 
              - the fraction of profit taken by "small & medium-sized" businesses has  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 05:02 PM   #97 
                 - Why don't you...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:05 PM   #101 
                    - it's not something that can be proved in a pithy post. go look at the data yourself,  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 05:06 PM   # 
                       - I did give it...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:08 PM   #105 
                          - i just did.  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 05:30 PM   #126 
                             - No, you...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:32 PM   #127 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-06-11 06:55 PM   #148 
     - Hear, hear! :) Community-owned ventures. Yep. n/t  OneGrassRoot   Mar-06-11 04:14 PM   #52 
        - There you go! The local communities decide what to do with the profits.  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 05:04 PM   #99 
  - Even better. Take it BACK! Give it back to the people it was stolen from. n/t  Horse with no Name   Mar-06-11 12:41 PM   #18 
  - +1000000  Taverner   Mar-06-11 01:40 PM   #20 
  - take it back.  nashville_brook   Mar-06-11 02:40 PM   #21 
  - in some cases  BobbyBoring   Mar-06-11 03:12 PM   #26 
     - So? His heirs won't be. n/t  lumberjack_jeff   Mar-06-11 05:38 PM   #131 
  - Agreed. It's time to take back what they stole from us.  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 04:59 PM   #92 
  - But that is okay, they earned every penny and all us poor workers  Rex   Mar-06-11 12:23 PM   #11 
  - Understand your point but I believe the facts are that 1/2 to 1% of citizens own about 50% of our  jody   Mar-06-11 12:36 PM   #17 
  - Those are the facts as I understand them as well, and they're appalling. n/t  OneGrassRoot   Mar-06-11 02:42 PM   #22 
  - Why would we want to  TicketyBoo   Mar-06-11 02:54 PM   #23 
  - If they really want to help, then a 90% tax rate would help a lot  Taverner   Mar-06-11 03:02 PM   #25 
  - So take that up  TicketyBoo   Mar-06-11 05:35 PM   #129 
  - So that leaves the remaining 99.5% which are mostly hoarders  high density   Mar-06-11 03:17 PM   #27 
  - Count me out too. Some on DU despise wealth, I just can't understand why.  bluestate10   Mar-06-11 04:09 PM   #50 
  - one's heart has nothing to do with it. concentrated economic power =  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 04:53 PM   #82 
  - I used to have you on "Ignore"  TicketyBoo   Mar-06-11 05:12 PM   #112 
  - yes, i would. however, my charitable giving doesn't have the power to corrupt  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 06:13 PM   #136 
     - So you think  TicketyBoo   Mar-07-11 04:03 AM   #157 
  - What she said!  Taverner   Mar-07-11 05:45 PM   #163 
  - big bank accounts = greed That tells us all we need to know about their heart.  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 05:06 PM   #102 
     - Nope. You're wrong.  TicketyBoo   Mar-06-11 05:17 PM   #115 
        - So you are saying...  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 05:22 PM   #120 
           - I am saying  TicketyBoo   Mar-06-11 05:33 PM   #128 
  - And a 90% tax rate would hurt them one bit.  baldguy   Mar-06-11 03:01 PM   #24 
  - Forbes richest 400 people in U.S.A.2010 list link:  1776Forever   Mar-06-11 03:28 PM   #28 
  - Notice that 6 out of 10 inherited their wealth. Also, about "taking it back"....  OneGrassRoot   Mar-06-11 03:33 PM   #29 
     - Excellent post  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 03:45 PM   #33 
     - This is an assault on our quality of life in this country. I think the rich would have no issues  1776Forever   Mar-06-11 03:57 PM   #39 
     - "How can we ensure those tax dollars go where they are needed?" My question also. nt  jody   Mar-06-11 04:03 PM   #45 
     - Make everyone go on a 'public campaign funds only' for a while  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:18 PM   #55 
        - IMO putting the SSN of each voter in a hat & drawing for congressperson can be no worse than present  jody   Mar-06-11 04:20 PM   #60 
           - Fucking unbelievable...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:25 PM   #65 
           - Considered how easily our current Constitution allows no more than a Corporatocracy...  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:40 PM   #68 
           - Really?  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:42 PM   #71 
              - Well, explain where we are now  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:46 PM   #74 
                 - I asked you...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:47 PM   #76 
                    - Claim of what?  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:52 PM   #81 
                       - Yeah...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:55 PM   #86 
           - Excellent idea. No more stolen elections by the neocons that way.  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 05:08 PM   #106 
     - Squeeze the rock if you have to nt  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:16 PM   #53 
  - Exile them and take their money  SoCalDem   Mar-06-11 03:34 PM   #30 
  - This is the...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 03:36 PM   #31 
     - It's called "Wealth Redistribution"  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:19 PM   #59 
     - LBJ's Great Society was not about...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:22 PM   #63 
        - Point 1: Them leaving the country because the taxes are so high is not exiling  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:37 PM   #67 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:40 PM   #69 
              - Here is all I am saying: Make the richest 2% or so visible  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:42 PM   #72 
                 - In other words...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:45 PM   #73 
                    - If Code Pink does that, its OK  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:47 PM   #75 
                       - You're both wrong...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:48 PM   #77 
                          - How about the air-horning of Pinochet  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:50 PM   #80 
                             - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:57 PM   #88 
     - Then why are you on this progressive board if you don't like progressive ideas?  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 05:09 PM   #108 
        - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-06-11 05:12 PM   #110 
        - How is confiscating someone's wealth and...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:14 PM   #113 
           - How is it not?  Xenotime   Mar-06-11 05:18 PM   #118 
              - Wealth redistribution is not...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:23 PM   #122 
                 - How is wealth distribution  50000feet   Mar-06-11 06:12 PM   #135 
                 - So you are saying taxation is theft?  Taverner   Mar-07-11 07:59 PM   #169 
                 - the us government exists to redistribute wealth, mostly from the bottom to the top.  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 06:23 PM   #141 
  - Hey all....the mods are watching this thread - just a reminder...  NRaleighLiberal   Mar-06-11 03:43 PM   #32 
  - What good is outing them going to do? I will answer, NADA, not one FT.  bluestate10   Mar-06-11 03:48 PM   #34 
  - Let me just put in a plug for...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 03:52 PM   #37 
  - "democratic capitalism" is an oxymoron  inna   Mar-06-11 03:59 PM   #42 
     - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-06-11 04:01 PM   #43 
     - Absolutely not. It is alive and well among those that have the guts to make a  bluestate10   Mar-06-11 04:18 PM   #57 
     - the fact that it is difficult to start up a business is irrelevant to the issue of the economic  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 04:55 PM   #85 
        - Except thousands of businesses are started...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:59 PM   #91 
           - and most of them fail in the same year. there are fewer independent businesses  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 05:01 PM   #95 
              - Please prove that...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:04 PM   #98 
                 - go look at historical irs data. i've done the exercise, do it yourself.  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 05:04 PM   #100 
                    - It's YOUR claim.  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:06 PM   #103 
                       - it's a claim that requires more than a link, it requires a study of the data.  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 05:07 PM   #104 
                       - Then link me to...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:09 PM   #107 
                          - i didn't get the information by looking at a "study" but by studying the irs & labor data for myself  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 05:24 PM   #123 
                             - That doesn't remotely support the claim...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:29 PM   #125 
                                - it doesn't?  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 05:39 PM   #132 
                                   - Ummm, no...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:41 PM   #133 
                                      - the percent of the population that's self-employed (working for self & not for another)  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 06:16 PM   #137 
                                         - I give up...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 06:32 PM   #142 
                                            - sba defines "small" business as 500 to 1500 employees, receipts up to 21.5 million.  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 06:35 PM   #143 
                                            - Yeah, yeah, yeah...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 06:40 PM   #145 
                                            - Do you realize that your posts conflict with  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 06:44 PM   #146 
                                            - your definition of "contradict" doesn't interest me.  Hannah Bell   Mar-06-11 07:24 PM   #151 
                                            - Of course it doesn't n/t  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 07:26 PM   #152 
                       - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-06-11 07:16 PM   #150 
     - Only to people who don't have...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 04:29 PM   #66 
     - Oh inna, you've kicked the anthill now...............  socialist_n_TN   Mar-06-11 06:50 PM   #147 
        - Why don't you educate yourself about...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 07:15 PM   #149 
        - Sweetie, your little "democratic capitalism" works GREAT............  socialist_n_TN   Mar-06-11 10:35 PM   #154 
           - So, tell me what you don't like about it  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 11:13 PM   #156 
        - LOL true that  Taverner   Mar-07-11 05:40 PM   #162 
           - Suspension of Disbelief, good call..........  socialist_n_TN   Mar-07-11 05:47 PM   #164 
           - Dude....  SDuderstadt   Mar-07-11 06:05 PM   #166 
           - A quick read of "Atlas Shrugged" reveals the capitalist mindset perfectly  Taverner   Mar-07-11 07:55 PM   #167 
           - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-07-11 05:50 PM   #165 
  - rich people  rdking647   Mar-06-11 04:25 PM   #64 
  - Partially yes  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:48 PM   #78 
  - Thing is, that would be an illegal company  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:53 PM   #83 
     - That is bullshit...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:02 PM   #96 
        - (1) How is that bullshit? That is law - as is the Citizens United case.  Taverner   Mar-06-11 05:10 PM   #109 
           - Then cite the...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:12 PM   #111 
              - Encyclopedia of Everyday Law  Taverner   Mar-06-11 05:18 PM   #116 
                 - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:21 PM   #119 
                    - I am? Wow, I would say it looked like quite the opposite  Taverner   Mar-06-11 05:22 PM   #121 
                       - Dude...  SDuderstadt   Mar-06-11 05:26 PM   #124 
  - The DU moderators want to add a comment here about "Let's make life hell for them"  pinto   Mar-06-11 03:49 PM   #35 
  - Thank you guys. :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Mar-06-11 03:51 PM   #36 
  - To the mods: I apologize  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:02 PM   #44 
  - Deleted sub-thread  Name removed   Mar-06-11 04:04 PM   #47 
  - So far, so good!  NRaleighLiberal   Mar-06-11 04:12 PM   #51 
  - Very Good Point  Taverner   Mar-08-11 02:29 PM   #170 
  - High percentage of "Ignored" posts on this thread.  Raksha   Mar-06-11 03:58 PM   #41 
  - I understand you're focused on individuals who are wealthy...  OneGrassRoot   Mar-06-11 04:17 PM   #54 
  - Wow.  Rex   Mar-06-11 04:18 PM   #56 
  - You're welcome! :) n/t  OneGrassRoot   Mar-06-11 04:18 PM   #58 
  - A more effective and thought out avenue at that. nt.  bluestate10   Mar-06-11 04:21 PM   #61 
  - I love this  Taverner   Mar-06-11 04:40 PM   #70 
  - why that's so beautiful it deserves its own sticky post.  NuttyFluffers   Mar-07-11 04:33 AM   #158 
     - I'm a huge fan of usuncut.org. Started in the UK...  OneGrassRoot   Mar-07-11 05:32 AM   #161 
  - Oprah is sure to be on that list  Canuckistanian   Mar-06-11 05:18 PM   #117 
  - WTF  pecwae   Mar-07-11 05:29 AM   #160 
  - BS  FreeJoe   Mar-06-11 06:00 PM   #134 
 

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