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Mon Mar-07-11 08:51 AM
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| 88. I voted "no biggie" because it is a false choice. |
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Edited on Mon Mar-07-11 08:52 AM by LoZoccolo
If an employee was abusive to a customer I wouldn't think that this was unprofessional.
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| -How do you feel when you see a member of management berate an employee in public? |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 09:39 AM |
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Choice #2 is enjoying 1/3000 odds but they're sliding fast |
wtmusic |
Mar-06-11 09:43 AM |
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It's not even only about Corporate humiliation... |
pipi_k |
Mar-06-11 10:37 AM |
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8 people here are either management or tools or both. If they are |
roguevalley |
Mar-06-11 03:44 PM |
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Anyone taking those odds would have been rich since the breakdown |
kelly1mm |
Mar-06-11 11:17 PM |
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Context matters |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:10 AM |
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That wasn't the question. |
Agony |
Mar-06-11 10:11 AM |
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I'm aware of the question |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:14 AM |
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No, I don't think you ARE aware |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 10:22 AM |
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Ah, so that's the only context that matters? |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:29 AM |
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Nice try |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 10:49 AM |
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Consider this |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:54 AM |
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Nice strawman |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 11:20 AM |
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It's called "hypothetical" |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 08:48 PM |
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Still no cases that I can think of that warrant a public berating |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-07-11 02:43 PM |
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Sigh |
WatsonT |
Mar-07-11 03:58 PM |
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Consider this scenario: |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:37 AM |
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"to confront the man, publicly, and order him to stop doing this" is not berating them |
bettyellen |
Mar-06-11 11:34 AM |
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So he should respectfully tell the guy |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 08:49 PM |
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if you don't know how to control your emotions at work, you shouldn;t manage others. respect is not |
bettyellen |
Mar-06-11 11:21 PM |
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dupe |
WatsonT |
Mar-07-11 08:41 AM |
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And if after a cold, rational |
WatsonT |
Mar-07-11 08:47 AM |
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"It is an extremely effective way to deter improper behavior" but all evidence to the contrary |
bettyellen |
Mar-08-11 10:52 PM |
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In public? |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 10:18 AM |
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I guess I don't see it as that big of deal |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:25 AM |
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I never thought I would see such apologia for corporate bullies on DU |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 10:32 AM |
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Cite a source, for a matter of opinion? |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:34 AM |
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Twisting words again, I see |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 11:17 AM |
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Pointing out that managers aren't necessarily |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 08:50 PM |
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Seriously? It would be hard to imagine anything more |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 10:39 AM |
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To repeat my previous analogy: |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:45 AM |
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It seems to me the cases you propose warrant immediate firing. |
MH1 |
Mar-06-11 10:59 AM |
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Ah but wouldn't stopping him publicly |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 11:01 AM |
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Ok I'll play one more turn |
MH1 |
Mar-06-11 11:07 AM |
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Um in the scenario lined out |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 11:09 AM |
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That's a ridiculous analogy and you've moved the goalposts. |
sufrommich |
Mar-06-11 11:32 AM |
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Not at all |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 08:51 PM |
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Did you even bother to read the other link before you atarted posting?? |
Angry Dragon |
Mar-06-11 09:05 PM |
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Yes I did |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 09:31 PM |
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Yes I did |
Angry Dragon |
Mar-06-11 09:49 PM |
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That was not the question |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 09:53 PM |
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Yes that is the question |
Angry Dragon |
Mar-06-11 09:57 PM |
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Def: |
WatsonT |
Mar-07-11 08:49 AM |
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Have a nice week |
Angry Dragon |
Mar-07-11 09:06 AM |
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ok . . . |
WatsonT |
Mar-07-11 12:55 PM |
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"One public berating would be far more efficient..." |
Dappleganger |
Mar-06-11 10:42 AM |
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To repeat my previous analogy: |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:46 AM |
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Your examples are ridiculous. |
Dappleganger |
Mar-06-11 10:55 AM |
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Ah yes |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:59 AM |
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Mar-06-11 11:04 AM |
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Deleted message |
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Mar-06-11 11:06 AM |
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"In Public" is the context. |
rucky |
Mar-06-11 10:36 AM |
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Yeah I got that, it's one factor |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 10:38 AM |
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You can use that argument for any poll. |
rucky |
Mar-06-11 11:26 AM |
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Ah so we shouldn't respond to the poll question |
WatsonT |
Mar-06-11 08:54 PM |
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It's pretty easy to tell if it's medical or not |
Vurz |
Mar-07-11 02:38 AM |
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So you're saying that there are other details |
WatsonT |
Mar-07-11 08:50 AM |
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Stop the presses! We got a couple votes for 'no biggie!' |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 10:19 AM |
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Apparently it's okay because it happened to them. |
ScreamingMeemie |
Mar-06-11 10:23 AM |
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Well, I picked the unprofessional option, BUT......... |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-06-11 10:21 AM |
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That's how I feel too |
Cirque du So-What |
Mar-06-11 10:26 AM |
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Yeah, I wouldn't act on it unless it got physical.............. |
socialist_n_TN |
Mar-06-11 10:38 AM |
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I would berate the manager in public. Telling him to act professional, or I will complain |
WingDinger |
Mar-06-11 10:31 AM |
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Generally unprofessional and disresptful |
Nikia |
Mar-06-11 10:34 AM |
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Having been a manager in several places... |
Dappleganger |
Mar-06-11 10:38 AM |
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I once had a boss go after me on the sales floor in front of a lady |
Snoutport |
Mar-06-11 10:55 AM |
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Good for you! |
Dappleganger |
Mar-06-11 10:56 AM |
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I didn't like what the manager did, but "berate" is inaccurate to describe that situation.nt |
woo me with science |
Mar-06-11 11:00 AM |
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Praise in public; reprimand in private. |
AngryOldDem |
Mar-06-11 11:10 AM |
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I feel like I'm seeing a lousy, weak manager. |
Bluenorthwest |
Mar-06-11 11:12 AM |
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Many years ago, I quit a job in less than four hours after witnessing a chew out. |
onehandle |
Mar-06-11 11:18 AM |
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I changed my mind in mid interview about a job offer after the woman berated an employee in front of |
bettyellen |
Mar-06-11 01:13 PM |
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onehandle, you are a smart one. nt |
BlueIris |
Mar-06-11 11:37 PM |
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I have a story about this that I'll never forget: |
protect our future |
Mar-06-11 12:27 PM |
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Not only do I think it it unprofessional, I personally do not |
Curmudgeoness |
Mar-06-11 12:37 PM |
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Just wondering... |
pipi_k |
Mar-06-11 01:10 PM |
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Actually, they did shut their mouths. They apologized to me for |
Curmudgeoness |
Mar-06-11 01:23 PM |
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Yeah, that's me too... |
pipi_k |
Mar-06-11 03:19 PM |
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I voted that it is unprofessional ...however... |
Jokinomx |
Mar-06-11 01:08 PM |
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I think in your scenario, the manager needs to stop the mistreatment of the customer immediately |
CTyankee |
Mar-06-11 01:21 PM |
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I agree....:-) |
Jokinomx |
Mar-06-11 01:44 PM |
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It's happened to me on multiple occasions. |
Initech |
Mar-06-11 01:17 PM |
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GREAT. |
Rex |
Mar-06-11 01:24 PM |
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I voted no biggie because... |
Zax2me |
Mar-06-11 03:31 PM |
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How often? Quite often at the donut shop in Kansas where I worked! |
protect our future |
Mar-07-11 12:17 PM |
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Back when I was 18 I was berated in front of a customer just for show |
Populist_Prole |
Mar-06-11 05:46 PM |
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I chewed |
ohheckyeah |
Mar-06-11 05:51 PM |
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Sickening |
taught_me_patience |
Mar-06-11 08:55 PM |
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Empowered. |
flvegan |
Mar-06-11 09:40 PM |
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I've called managers out on this |
mrmpa |
Mar-06-11 10:04 PM |
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"Praise in public, criticize in private" |
LadyHawkAZ |
Mar-06-11 10:04 PM |
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Angry. n/t |
HEyHEY |
Mar-06-11 11:25 PM |
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Before labor unions |
Enthusiast |
Mar-07-11 06:23 AM |
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Berating people is unprofessional in a work environment in public OR private. |
jp11 |
Mar-07-11 06:37 AM |
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I voted "no biggie" because it is a false choice. |
LoZoccolo |
Mar-07-11 08:51 AM |
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Any good children's program teaches leaders to praise in public and discipline in private. |
ClassWarrior |
Mar-07-11 09:09 AM |
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I was griped at by a manager on the sales floor at Foley's. |
Manifestor_of_Light |
Mar-07-11 02:58 PM |
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Anyone who yells at or berates employees shouldn't be in management |
Taitertots |
Mar-07-11 03:01 PM |
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I got in the face of a boss for doing this once and yelled at him until he sat down and I was |
yurbud |
Mar-07-11 04:00 PM |
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A problem never gets solved when someone is blamed. |
AsahinaKimi |
Mar-08-11 11:53 PM |
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My real answer wasn't on the list and would be deleted. |
readmoreoften |
Mar-09-11 01:00 AM |
#100 |
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