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Wed Dec-22-10 05:20 PM
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| 69. Giving away your daughter for only one goat -- deal making. |
| -What the hell is wrong with making deals? |
maxrandb |
Dec-22-10 01:19 PM |
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"You get seven wishes", he said. |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-22-10 01:21 PM |
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You know |
maxrandb |
Dec-22-10 01:36 PM |
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You might be surprised to learn that Rush and I use thousands of the same words |
FiveGoodMen |
Dec-22-10 01:38 PM |
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No |
maxrandb |
Dec-22-10 01:48 PM |
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said it before and will say again, every compromise was surrender and invited new demands. |
sad sally |
Dec-22-10 04:48 PM |
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deal making |
pokerfan |
Dec-22-10 05:13 PM |
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Heh. |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-24-10 01:16 AM |
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Tell that to the republicans when they're in power. |
DireStrike |
Dec-22-10 01:21 PM |
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Blah blah blah... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:24 PM |
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I think you misunderstand. |
DireStrike |
Dec-22-10 01:37 PM |
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So we can be as ruthless and ugly and WRONG as they are? |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:38 PM |
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No, were supposed to make deals with the ruthless, ugly, wrong people. |
Hello_Kitty |
Dec-22-10 02:22 PM |
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What? |
Kweli4Real |
Dec-22-10 04:49 PM |
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Two more years of what caused the whole mess in the first place |
niceypoo |
Dec-24-10 01:39 AM |
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Seems to be effective. |
DireStrike |
Dec-22-10 09:00 PM |
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Exactly. |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-24-10 01:11 AM |
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Republican politicians have the mentality of children |
Lisa D |
Dec-22-10 01:28 PM |
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Well said... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:28 PM |
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Wrong. They compromise too. |
treestar |
Dec-22-10 01:40 PM |
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Republicans from 2000-2006 compromised, significantly? Show me. |
DireStrike |
Dec-22-10 09:01 PM |
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Crickets... n/t |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-24-10 01:19 AM |
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Many on DU don't understand that when you demand all or nothing deals |
NeedleCast |
Dec-22-10 01:21 PM |
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Yep... unless you are a despot... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:22 PM |
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There's deals and there's deals! |
Rosa Luxemburg |
Dec-22-10 01:23 PM |
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It's an after effect of BushCo, IMO. |
tridim |
Dec-22-10 01:23 PM |
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Exactly right... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:25 PM |
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Exactly JuniperLea. Good point. |
Crystal Clarity |
Dec-22-10 01:56 PM |
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Kick Ass Post |
Lisa D |
Dec-22-10 01:23 PM |
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The rule in deal making is to NOT tell the other side everything you're willing to give up |
hobbit709 |
Dec-22-10 01:24 PM |
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Ummm... that actually IS deal making... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:28 PM |
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You've never haggled at a market in the Middle East have you? |
hobbit709 |
Dec-22-10 01:33 PM |
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What's that got to do with the price of turnips in January? |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:36 PM |
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The one side tells you the asking price |
hobbit709 |
Dec-22-10 01:43 PM |
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The part before the big "but" is pretty much what happened here... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 02:27 PM |
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not quite |
mitchtv |
Dec-22-10 01:52 PM |
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exactly |
mitchtv |
Dec-22-10 01:50 PM |
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Bingo. |
jtown1123 |
Dec-22-10 01:53 PM |
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and you are privy to this information in what way? |
Whisp |
Dec-22-10 02:22 PM |
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And you are assuming ... |
Kweli4Real |
Dec-22-10 05:03 PM |
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Well maybe they are mad at a system that allows one person |
walldude |
Dec-22-10 01:24 PM |
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What deal did B*sh make to go to war in Iraq? |
harun |
Dec-22-10 01:26 PM |
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That's nonsense... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:29 PM |
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Why does the OP have to go away? |
Lisa D |
Dec-22-10 01:32 PM |
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The surrounding circumstances have plenty to do with it |
treestar |
Dec-22-10 01:43 PM |
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If you recall |
maxrandb |
Dec-22-10 02:05 PM |
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Public Option was just too important. Obama should have gave them |
harun |
Dec-22-10 03:09 PM |
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And you know this, because ... |
Kweli4Real |
Dec-22-10 05:11 PM |
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What do you think it would have taken? |
harun |
Dec-22-10 07:13 PM |
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There was absolutely nothing ... |
Kweli4Real |
Dec-23-10 07:09 PM |
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I've remained fairly optimistic towards negotiating deals... |
Earth_First |
Dec-22-10 01:27 PM |
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You're right... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:31 PM |
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But we don't know what the "deal" was |
maxrandb |
Dec-22-10 01:45 PM |
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I love a deal |
Stevenmarc |
Dec-22-10 01:28 PM |
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There Is Nothing.... |
WiffenPoof |
Dec-22-10 01:30 PM |
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There is no pat answer, making a deal can be good, bad or neutral. |
Uncle Joe |
Dec-22-10 01:30 PM |
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I agree |
Johonny |
Dec-22-10 02:20 PM |
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An observation on the republikan game plan |
randr |
Dec-22-10 01:33 PM |
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Thanks for the post randr |
maxrandb |
Dec-22-10 02:13 PM |
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Very well stated ... n/t |
Kweli4Real |
Dec-22-10 05:15 PM |
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Indeed, governing is deal-making |
gratuitous |
Dec-22-10 01:33 PM |
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Nice goal post moving you got going there... |
JuniperLea |
Dec-22-10 01:39 PM |
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So what have you seen exchanged for stuff that should have/could have been pro forma? |
gratuitous |
Dec-22-10 01:53 PM |
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You mention shelves, stick pens, clown noses, and plucking pigeons in your post... |
cottonseed |
Dec-22-10 04:36 PM |
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Highly recommended. |
treestar |
Dec-22-10 01:39 PM |
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In the words of Robert F. Kennedy: |
girl gone mad |
Dec-22-10 01:43 PM |
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Good stuff |
BlueJac |
Dec-22-10 01:52 PM |
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+1. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-22-10 01:53 PM |
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Obama is a cold-hearted intellectual, as opposed to the empathic kind as RFK. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-22-10 04:43 PM |
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That quote is one reason why Bobby Kennedy is one of my favorite politicians |
Art_from_Ark |
Dec-24-10 12:17 AM |
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Excellent post. n/t |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-24-10 01:37 AM |
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Making a deal under adverse conditions is one thing, |
MoonRiver |
Dec-22-10 02:00 PM |
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It accomplishes something! Most it seems are happier with nothing as long as one shouts angrily |
stray cat |
Dec-22-10 02:20 PM |
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It all depends on the quality of the deal. It is a means to an end, not an end. |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-22-10 02:22 PM |
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Its phony outrage meant to to be a diversion from any success Obama and Dems achieve. |
phleshdef |
Dec-22-10 02:27 PM |
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Giving billions to billionaires is a fundamental betrayal of Democratic principles. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-22-10 04:45 PM |
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"Phony" outrage? Please define the difference between phony outrage and real |
Foo Fighter |
Dec-24-10 01:44 AM |
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Nothing. But caving in on basic principles is what is wrong. |
damntexdem |
Dec-22-10 04:26 PM |
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As if Lee had a choice. |
rug |
Dec-22-10 05:14 PM |
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I agree with the necessity of 'making deals' |
Elmore Furth |
Dec-22-10 05:18 PM |
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Giving away your daughter for only one goat -- deal making. |
EFerrari |
Dec-22-10 05:20 PM |
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It's fine, when your side actually comes out of it with something. |
HEyHEY |
Dec-22-10 09:00 PM |
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Nothing |
Confusious |
Dec-24-10 01:38 AM |
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