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Tue Dec-14-10 11:04 AM
Response to Reply #94 |
| 96. Yeah, that must be it.. |
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those poor felons are all victims. Just as it wasn't their fault when they committed the crimes leading to their incarceration. And once in prison, their continued sticking and raping of each other is sure to be the fault of someone else. Poor little felons..
Where's the sympathy for the true victims? Those that have had their lives ended or altered irreparably due to the actions of this human trash some of you are defending?
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| -Day 3 of Historic Prison Strike in Georgia - Blacked out By Media |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-13-10 03:05 PM |
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K&R |
EFerrari |
Dec-13-10 03:07 PM |
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K&R was just about to post, but you beat me to it! |
Puregonzo1188 |
Dec-13-10 03:11 PM |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-13-10 03:13 PM |
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NYT, Slate, ABC, every GA outlet |
Recursion |
Dec-13-10 03:14 PM |
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If I haven't seen it |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-13-10 03:23 PM |
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dupe |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-13-10 03:24 PM |
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Part of trends |
nadinbrzezinski |
Dec-13-10 03:26 PM |
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"A LIVING WAGE FOR WORK" |
Upton |
Dec-13-10 03:27 PM |
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yay for slave labor! (nt) |
Krakowiak |
Dec-13-10 03:31 PM |
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dupe. |
Krakowiak |
Dec-13-10 03:31 PM |
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Perhaps the 'living wage' concession is moot |
Earth_First |
Dec-13-10 03:32 PM |
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Yes they are in prison. |
walldude |
Dec-13-10 03:33 PM |
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Breaking a law for which the legal punishment is prison does make you a slave, yes. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-13-10 03:37 PM |
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Prison exists to protect society from criminals and rehabilitate those men |
NuclearDem |
Dec-13-10 07:15 PM |
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Ah, but rehabilitation was completely thrown out of the window in the 1960s |
ProudDad |
Dec-14-10 11:32 AM |
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Incorrect, slavery requires labor. Prison simply requires you to be isolated from society. |
Sirveri |
Dec-14-10 01:30 AM |
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There's a leap here from... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 01:03 PM |
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I agree, furthermore Bailey v. AL would indicate that the state can't compel labor |
Sirveri |
Dec-14-10 01:31 PM |
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You do not understand either the law, or the definition of slavery. |
DireStrike |
Dec-14-10 12:03 PM |
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you want to see harsh drug laws .. go overseas ... |
littlewolf |
Dec-14-10 09:50 PM |
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Okay.. |
Upton |
Dec-13-10 03:42 PM |
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Most are in for drugs or some vice "crime". Aka shit that is a crime because somebody says so. |
TheKentuckian |
Dec-14-10 02:07 AM |
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I'd really appreciate it if you could cite for us where you got your... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 02:53 PM |
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+1. I cannot conjure up any sympathy either for a striking force |
Obamanaut |
Dec-13-10 03:55 PM |
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boggles your mind? |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-13-10 04:19 PM |
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It will pass. It is amazing how, on the same forum, one can read one |
Obamanaut |
Dec-13-10 04:56 PM |
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I would imagine the one is merely a visceral expression of revenge |
LanternWaste |
Dec-14-10 01:32 PM |
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Do you have any evidence that the prison population is dominated by the people you describe? |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 04:27 PM |
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Are you suggesting that the prison population does not contain |
Obamanaut |
Dec-13-10 04:48 PM |
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Some in prison are bad guys, therefore no one in prison deserves any basic human rights. |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 05:59 PM |
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No credibility with you? My day is ruined. Oh nooooo. nt |
Obamanaut |
Dec-14-10 04:33 AM |
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I bet you can ruin - and have ruined - many days |
Tsiyu |
Dec-14-10 02:18 PM |
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Analysis on the internet. Oooh. nt |
Obamanaut |
Dec-14-10 03:17 PM |
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Nobody is for coddling. But slavery is unconstitutional. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-13-10 07:58 PM |
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Not for prisoners. Read the 13th amendment. nt |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-13-10 08:26 PM |
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There is a fundamental problem with your citing of the 13th amendment. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 12:59 PM |
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That explains it... |
ProudDad |
Dec-14-10 11:35 AM |
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Based upon my limited experience and perspective... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 01:01 PM |
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Ain't that the truth. |
blueamy66 |
Dec-14-10 02:24 PM |
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50% of people in state prisons are there for possessing or selling drugs, |
mudplanet |
Dec-14-10 02:22 PM |
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The prisoners aren't being given access to those materials |
NuclearDem |
Dec-13-10 07:16 PM |
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They must have access to something, otherwise no one would know |
Obamanaut |
Dec-14-10 04:21 AM |
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it specifically says contraband "cell phones" |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-14-10 02:59 PM |
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Sounds like you envy them. It's easy to join them, if so. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-13-10 07:56 PM |
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That is ridiculous. No, it's funny. I've worked in the prison system as |
Obamanaut |
Dec-14-10 04:17 AM |
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I'm sure you would find being caged in a prison cell joy .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-14-10 12:13 PM |
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For someone who had an inside view you have an odd memory. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 12:22 PM |
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I suspect that conditions in state prisons vary greatly state to state. |
hedgehog |
Dec-14-10 03:21 PM |
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"Beware of those with a strong urge to punish" .... |
defendandprotect |
Dec-14-10 12:09 PM |
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Interesting assumptions about the crimes. Majority of inmates.... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 12:20 PM |
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dupe n/t |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 04:15 PM |
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Yeah, cuz it's not like we have the highest percentage and number of incarcerated people... |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 04:16 PM |
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99% is a bullshit figure and the poster knows it |
Tsiyu |
Dec-13-10 05:55 PM |
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Reason is wasted on some... |
ProudDad |
Dec-14-10 11:37 AM |
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Sounds good but charge them for room and board..... |
whistler162 |
Dec-13-10 04:18 PM |
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And laundry, and medical/dental insurance, and a fee to pay all the |
Obamanaut |
Dec-13-10 04:20 PM |
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Should we charge them for the beatings and rapes as well? n/t |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 04:29 PM |
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Those are on the house! |
NutmegYankee |
Dec-13-10 05:44 PM |
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WE HAVE MORE PEOPLE IN PRISON THAN ANY OTHER COUNTRY IN THE WORLD. |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 06:07 PM |
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Fierce one and well done, antigone! |
Kaleko |
Dec-13-10 06:10 PM |
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I really don't like to get aggressive and disrespectful.... |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 06:19 PM |
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Do you know *why* our incarceration rate is higher than China's? |
Ghost in the Machine |
Dec-13-10 07:25 PM |
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It's not just higher than China's. It's higher than any other country in the world. |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 07:46 PM |
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We are higher because China **EXECUTES** almost 2000 people per year, some for minor drug crimes |
Ghost in the Machine |
Dec-13-10 08:37 PM |
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I repeat, we have more prisoners than any other nation in the world. |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 08:49 PM |
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even if they stopped executing 2000-10,000, we'd *still* have a higher rate of imprisonment. |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-14-10 02:55 PM |
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+100 |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-13-10 10:48 PM |
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Emotional? Yes it is. |
NutmegYankee |
Dec-14-10 04:01 AM |
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I've lived in a rural area my whole life. |
antigone382 |
Dec-14-10 04:05 AM |
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As in a conservative? |
NutmegYankee |
Dec-14-10 04:15 AM |
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I live in Appalachian Tennessee, so I guess I know about that. |
antigone382 |
Dec-14-10 05:00 AM |
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+1000 |
ProudDad |
Dec-14-10 11:39 AM |
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+1000! |
SammyWinstonJack |
Dec-14-10 12:12 PM |
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CHINA HARVESTS PRISONERS ORGANS FOR PROFIT...hey, I like typing in all caps! n/t |
galileoreloaded |
Dec-14-10 01:31 PM |
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I'm glad for you. Once again "less barbaric than China" =/= "satisfactory" |
antigone382 |
Dec-14-10 03:50 PM |
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Oh, noez, Connecticut! |
superduperfarleft |
Dec-13-10 07:19 PM |
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lmao |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 07:53 PM |
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I live in a rural area. Crime is not expected here. |
NutmegYankee |
Dec-14-10 03:58 AM |
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Crime is actually more frequent in rural areas. |
antigone382 |
Dec-14-10 04:13 AM |
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So everyone in prison is a murderer? |
rfranklin |
Dec-14-10 02:52 PM |
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Everyone uses some emotion in an argument. |
NutmegYankee |
Dec-14-10 04:42 PM |
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Um, even besides the human rights problem this *does* drive down wages |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-13-10 04:24 PM |
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I see this happening in my own community. |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 04:37 PM |
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Wow! Perfect illustration of that scenario. |
Starry Messenger |
Dec-13-10 06:50 PM |
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It's a very unusual and frustrating situation, and I'm not sure how it's legal. |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 07:04 PM |
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The Problem With This Line, Sir |
The Magistrate |
Dec-13-10 04:42 PM |
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Thank you sir. |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-13-10 07:09 PM |
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Spot on. And let me add another problem: |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-13-10 07:19 PM |
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Read "The New Jim Crow" by Michelle Alexander. She is a former |
brindis_desala |
Dec-14-10 01:25 PM |
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+1 |
leftstreet |
Dec-14-10 02:53 PM |
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So let's say they keep on refusing to work. What to do? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-13-10 07:11 PM |
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"Many guilty of violent crimes" |
glen123098 |
Dec-13-10 07:20 PM |
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And many of them are in prison on account of our ridiculous war on drugs. |
FrancisTreptoe |
Dec-13-10 07:31 PM |
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What about the ones that AREN'T guilty of violent crimes? |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-13-10 10:43 PM |
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Making license plates is one thing |
Recursion |
Dec-14-10 06:23 AM |
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Yeah, smokin' dope should be punished by death, right? |
ProudDad |
Dec-14-10 11:28 AM |
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I heard that President Obama is negotiating on behalf of the Georgia prison system |
corkhead |
Dec-14-10 12:02 PM |
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It's not even close to 99%. |
asdjrocky |
Dec-14-10 03:05 PM |
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I agree with this only for those prisoners that are NOT in prison for a violent crime. |
cleanhippie |
Dec-13-10 03:35 PM |
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Prisoners have no 13th-amendment rights. It's explicitly in the fucking amendment. |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-13-10 03:35 PM |
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I don't give a fuck about the language of the 13th Amendment. |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-13-10 03:43 PM |
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Its language may not be "the standard for righteousness," |
Occam Bandage |
Dec-13-10 03:48 PM |
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While technically true it's more complicated than that due to other legal rulings. |
Sirveri |
Dec-14-10 01:57 AM |
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True, but that doesn't mean it's economically good |
Recursion |
Dec-14-10 06:24 AM |
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You make me sick and you make me ashamed to be a member of this site - n/t |
coalition_unwilling |
Dec-14-10 01:21 PM |
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You are incorrect. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 03:00 PM |
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K&R... I live in Atlanta and have not heard about this... |
RT Atlanta |
Dec-13-10 03:38 PM |
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Am I the only person who actually does have any sympathy for prisoners? |
NuclearDem |
Dec-13-10 07:23 PM |
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+1 |
antigone382 |
Dec-13-10 07:56 PM |
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No, you are not alone. They are paid slave wages for Big Corporations. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-13-10 07:57 PM |
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One wonders why, if so many of those incarcerated wanted to 'turn their |
Obamanaut |
Dec-14-10 04:27 AM |
#83 |
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assuming what you say is true, what is your point? |
eShirl |
Dec-14-10 04:50 AM |
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Refer to response #48. If so many 'inside' wanted to turn their lives |
Obamanaut |
Dec-14-10 05:02 AM |
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Just because some people in prison continue to commit crimes, doesn't mean everyone in there does |
NuclearDem |
Dec-14-10 11:15 AM |
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And just because some law enforcement officers go to extremes, doesn't mean |
Obamanaut |
Dec-14-10 01:56 PM |
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+1000% -- |
defendandprotect |
Dec-14-10 12:17 PM |
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Unrec'd |
brooklynite |
Dec-13-10 07:26 PM |
#50 |
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Ooops, I had almost forgotten to REC. Thanks for the heads up. |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-13-10 08:25 PM |
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Point me to a link from a major network please. thanks. nt |
Truth2Tell |
Dec-13-10 08:31 PM |
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The Atlanta Journal, linked, is a very large paper. If networks don't |
Obamanaut |
Dec-14-10 06:38 AM |
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I listened to Amy Goodman on Democracy Now! this a.m. |
KansDem |
Dec-14-10 10:46 AM |
#94 |
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Yeah, that must be it.. |
Upton |
Dec-14-10 11:04 AM |
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I don't have sympathy for people who commit crimes |
NuclearDem |
Dec-14-10 11:10 AM |
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And the guards selling the phones are...committing a crime? |
KansDem |
Dec-14-10 11:29 AM |
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Violent crimes are NOT acceptable |
Upton |
Dec-14-10 11:43 AM |
#107 |
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Reality is a fine, fine thing |
Tsiyu |
Dec-14-10 02:33 PM |
#138 |
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Sure is.. |
Upton |
Dec-14-10 03:32 PM |
#154 |
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Yeah, since we're in favor of coddling criminals |
NuclearDem |
Dec-14-10 05:18 PM |
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Why would they choose Reality... |
mstinamotorcity |
Dec-14-10 04:42 PM |
#157 |
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Human trash? |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 01:05 PM |
#127 |
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Prison, by design, is supposed to really really suck. |
Throd |
Dec-13-10 07:55 PM |
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So much for "rehabilitation." Is "incarceration" a synonym for "slavery"? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-13-10 07:59 PM |
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Yeah, pretty much. |
Throd |
Dec-13-10 08:09 PM |
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Ask Jan Brewer of AZ. I'm sure she likes the idea. |
lonestarnot |
Dec-13-10 08:42 PM |
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That depends on the jail. Some jails actually attempt to |
Exilednight |
Dec-13-10 08:05 PM |
#60 |
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Is there such a thing as excessive suckage? |
Commie Pinko Dirtbag |
Dec-13-10 08:27 PM |
#64 |
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rape, abuse, slavery |
upi402 |
Dec-14-10 01:33 AM |
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K&R |
Canuckistanian |
Dec-13-10 10:38 PM |
#69 |
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As a volunteer jail chaplain.... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 09:48 AM |
#91 |
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Thank you... |
ProudDad |
Dec-14-10 11:41 AM |
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Thank you so much for the work you do |
NuclearDem |
Dec-14-10 11:47 AM |
#109 |
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I wish I could do more. Unfortunately... |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 12:13 PM |
#117 |
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Wow, hadn't heard of this. Thanks. nt |
valerief |
Dec-14-10 10:35 AM |
#92 |
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We all know that our prisons are used for slave labor (when China labor is just too darn expensive). |
valerief |
Dec-14-10 10:36 AM |
#93 |
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the GOP is probably determined to turn prisons INTO factories to compete with China |
tomm2thumbs |
Dec-14-10 10:59 AM |
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You know what's SO ironic... |
ProudDad |
Dec-14-10 11:26 AM |
#99 |
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That's a key to the problem right there. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 12:17 PM |
#121 |
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Alright, I just don't understand. As a former inmate who was rehabilitated by our prison system |
NuclearDem |
Dec-14-10 11:44 AM |
#108 |
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+1 |
blueamy66 |
Dec-14-10 02:43 PM |
#139 |
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I wish I could rec a response. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 07:29 PM |
#159 |
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Our future generations will look back at our PIC and shake their heads, |
The Midway Rebel |
Dec-14-10 11:52 AM |
#110 |
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I do wonder how much of the venom comes from ignorance. |
Pacifist Patriot |
Dec-14-10 12:15 PM |
#119 |
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We've got endless URGENT issues to work on -- this is certainly one of them...!!! |
defendandprotect |
Dec-14-10 12:05 PM |
#113 |
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Criminals or not |
davidthegnome |
Dec-14-10 12:08 PM |
#114 |
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Kicked and recommended. |
Uncle Joe |
Dec-14-10 01:30 PM |
#130 |
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Prison Labor is big business when you are the country with the most prisoners per capita - |
TBF |
Dec-14-10 02:53 PM |
#143 |
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USA! USA! USA!! |
Cali_Democrat |
Dec-14-10 02:58 PM |
#146 |
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It seems to me asking for some human decency |
mstinamotorcity |
Dec-14-10 02:57 PM |
#145 |
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Solidarity. |
asdjrocky |
Dec-14-10 03:02 PM |
#149 |
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Work is "assigned" to to prisoners, but what happens if a prisoner refuses? |
aikoaiko |
Dec-14-10 03:10 PM |
#151 |
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depending on the state ... |
littlewolf |
Dec-14-10 09:56 PM |
#161 |
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Solidarity. nt |
laughingliberal |
Dec-14-10 10:13 PM |
#162 |
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can't speak for GA .. but NC ... |
littlewolf |
Dec-14-10 10:15 PM |
#163 |
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