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Tue Dec-21-10 03:12 PM
Response to Reply #31 |
| 36. Are Senator Reid and President Obama campaigning for these changes? |
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Edited on Tue Dec-21-10 03:15 PM by Better Believe It
Or are we talking about a few Senators just making the political record?
The old Congressional graveyard of bills and proposals.
You know that's done with hundreds of pieces of legislation every year in both the House and Senate that never go anywhere and are never fought for by the Democratic Party leadership.
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| -SIGN the DailyKos/Merkley/Udall PETITION: Tell Senators--make the filibuster real! |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 01:06 PM |
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recommend |
xchrom |
Dec-21-10 01:08 PM |
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Done |
lamp_shade |
Dec-21-10 01:16 PM |
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Done. |
aquart |
Dec-21-10 01:23 PM |
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Done. |
jwirr |
Dec-21-10 01:39 PM |
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kr |
Hannah Bell |
Dec-21-10 01:41 PM |
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No, Don't! We'll likely be in the minority in 2 years, and will need it. This creates precedent |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 01:50 PM |
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IF the repubs take control in 2012 THEY can change the rules TOO. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 01:58 PM |
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This makes it MUCH easier. |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:03 PM |
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Have the republicans 'promised' not to change the rules when they take the Senate? |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:08 PM |
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No, but it's still taboo. Again, the cost/benefits don't add up - we should've done this in 01/09 |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:14 PM |
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There is A LOT to gain |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:17 PM |
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Udall is one of the guys who also want to cut Social Security and entitlements. Check the board. |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:26 PM |
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We had to agree to give up the Goodwin Liu & 3 other liberal nominations in order to get the 19 |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:44 PM |
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I read that article. Isn't that the way these deals normally are made? |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:56 PM |
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I wouldn't call it horsetrading, the GOP was holding ALL nominees hostage. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:06 PM |
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Part of a bigger deal - which is why I am very leery of this "reform" |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 03:15 PM |
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Senator Claire McCaskill has been working for over a year to get rid of the 'secret holds' rule |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:24 PM |
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Btw... |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:37 PM |
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You don't need to change Senate Rules to stop "procedural filibusters". |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:11 PM |
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Please do tell us how. n/t |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:14 PM |
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OK No problem: |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:29 PM |
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n/t |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:38 PM |
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And there's NO WAY that we'll lose the Senate in the next election. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 01:59 PM |
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Surely, there's some irony in that statement? |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:04 PM |
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A must read: Here's a link below tons of info regarding the dem's defilibuster reform |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:10 PM |
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Senate Dems can easily halt Republican "procedural filibusters" Just stop the "dual-track" practice! |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:22 PM |
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Please explain what those terms mean. Thnx. |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:27 PM |
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Which ones? If you haven't, please read the full articles. That should help. |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:30 PM |
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Requires "unanimous consent or agreement of the Minority Leader" to dual-track |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:37 PM |
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To end "dual-track" which is what is being proposed, you do not |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 02:43 PM |
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Yes. I see how easy it would be for the Majority to put an end to it - but then a filibuster |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 02:53 PM |
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The 60 vote rule is a Senate 'rule'. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:57 PM |
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Yes. We want Republicans forced to tie-up the Senate with real filibusters |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 03:02 PM |
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Three of the proposals of the reform are.... |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:10 PM |
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I would support anything that makes the filibuster more effective if we lose the Senate in '12 |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 03:22 PM |
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Lots of info on the link below |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:32 PM |
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I'm not attacking those proposals but we both know that the next Senate won't pass those new rules. |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 03:24 PM |
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I beleive The Senate WILL pass new rules in January, because ... |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 03:28 PM |
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Dual Track will NOT affect the need to still have 60 votes for cloture. |
Tx4obama |
Dec-21-10 02:56 PM |
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But, you think there will be 51 votes in January for all those changes? |
leveymg |
Dec-21-10 03:00 PM |
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Are Senator Reid and President Obama campaigning for these changes? |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 03:12 PM |
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Read the articles. Senator Reid does not need the Republican minority leaders agreement .... |
Better Believe It |
Dec-21-10 03:07 PM |
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Done. |
Eric J in MN |
Dec-21-10 02:30 PM |
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done |
Luciferous |
Dec-21-10 03:24 PM |
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Bump :) n/t |
Tx4obama |
Dec-22-10 08:28 PM |
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