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social_critic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-21-10 01:34 PM
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7. I'm opposed to ethanol use
As long as it's heavily subsidized and we keep an import tariff on it so high, it's non-sense to import it. But...was can import all the oil we want. It would make more sense to tax oil imports and let ethanol from abroad in.

But all of this is baloney, it's meant to subsidize the corn ethanol industry - which has an incredibly powerful lobby led by Archer Daniels Midland Company.

Ethanol from corn is a crime - it only works because of subsidies, it doesn't really make that much green fuel (it takes a lot of oil to get the ethanol), and it drives food prices up in spikes - and this in turn is bad. Food prices can go up if they do so gradually, but this linkage between ethanol-corn and oil is killing the little guy in places like Mexico.
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  -Automakers challenge rule allowing 15% ethanol in gas DainBramaged  Dec-21-10 11:37 AM   #0 
  - Are they protesting because of the problems with ethanol in general  jwirr   Dec-21-10 12:48 PM   #1 
  - 12% (current standard) is marginal for older cars right now  DainBramaged   Dec-21-10 01:04 PM   #2 
  - Part of what your saying isnt true  mkultra   Dec-21-10 01:20 PM   #3 
     - Really  DainBramaged   Dec-21-10 02:22 PM   #10 
     - I am aware that they have had changes made  mkultra   Dec-21-10 03:52 PM   #13 
        - Then you know nothing of the construction of injectors, past or present  DainBramaged   Dec-21-10 04:48 PM   #17 
     - Let's see if you believe someone else  DainBramaged   Dec-21-10 02:35 PM   #11 
        - "Unlike E10, or even E20, E85 should not be used in other than engines designed to operate on E85"  mkultra   Dec-21-10 04:06 PM   #15 
           - You've done nothing than try to refute what I wrote, and you haven't been successful  DainBramaged   Dec-21-10 04:47 PM   #16 
  - They're envisioning massive warranty lawsuits.  Xithras   Dec-21-10 01:27 PM   #4 
  - What would be the effect on pre-1974 American cars?  Throd   Dec-21-10 01:28 PM   #5 
  - Don't worry, you can't use it anyway  social_critic   Dec-21-10 01:31 PM   #6 
  - I'm opposed to ethanol use  social_critic   Dec-21-10 01:34 PM   #7 
  - +1  tammywammy   Dec-21-10 01:40 PM   #8 
  - The price of tortillas sure went up.  Throd   Dec-21-10 01:50 PM   #9 
  - Corn ethanol is a joke as fuel source for automobiles  bighart   Dec-21-10 02:36 PM   #12 
  - Get rid of ethanol in gas, period.  MadHound   Dec-21-10 03:57 PM   #14 

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