| 37. Please read my whole post if you are going to criticize me . . |
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The title by the way is in reference to an earlier thread. If you read the thing the whole way through you we see that i'm not mandating anyone be forced to eat any certain food item and I say we should raise food stamp allotment. Anyway read the whole thing and then get back to me.
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| -No food stamps for junk food---my true intentions |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 01:49 AM |
#0 |
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We had a thread today where some stupid fucker spent $32K for a 6th birthday party and it went... |
JVS |
Feb-24-11 01:53 AM |
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Thank you. |
Bluebear |
Feb-24-11 02:59 AM |
#20 |
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I think it has more to do with what we (tax payers, govt) are providing for the poor than |
aikoaiko |
Feb-24-11 06:48 AM |
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And what makes you think that "you" are the one providing it? |
Lyric |
Feb-24-11 07:32 AM |
#40 |
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Most food stamp recipients do pay taxes |
salvorhardin |
Feb-24-11 08:04 AM |
#44 |
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Since someone will inevitably point this out, it's true that FS recipients pay no food taxes |
Lyric |
Feb-24-11 08:23 AM |
#49 |
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I don't know why food stamps don't pay for toiletries. I would consider them essentials. |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 08:29 AM |
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I agree, but I'd almost dread the aftermath of having such things permitted. |
Lyric |
Feb-24-11 08:36 AM |
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That blows. |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 08:50 AM |
#54 |
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I don't know... |
blueamy66 |
Feb-24-11 07:56 PM |
#129 |
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exactly! i always try to point out that we ALL pay taxes be it through buying |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 09:59 AM |
#59 |
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Oh, definitely |
salvorhardin |
Feb-24-11 04:11 PM |
#113 |
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Most people I see using food stamps also pay cash for other items - |
haele |
Feb-24-11 12:35 PM |
#75 |
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Oh get real, they're poor people. And it's a scientific fact that poor people are a bunch of... |
JVS |
Feb-24-11 09:05 AM |
#57 |
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It doesn't really matter if recipients are, have, or will ever pay taxes. |
aikoaiko |
Feb-24-11 12:15 PM |
#73 |
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+1 |
geardaddy |
Feb-24-11 04:29 PM |
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Deleted sub-thread |
Name removed |
Feb-24-11 12:40 PM |
#77 |
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Truth. Thanks for the sanity. nt |
blondeatlast |
Feb-24-11 10:00 AM |
#60 |
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People are lot more tolerant when it isn't their money being wasted |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-24-11 11:24 AM |
#69 |
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You got that right. It is all about control, and Dems are just as much control freaks as Reps. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 12:39 PM |
#76 |
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I'm trying to see your point |
leftynyc |
Feb-24-11 02:29 PM |
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This topic has been visited before. It is one of the big |
era veteran |
Feb-24-11 02:05 AM |
#2 |
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I know its a hard issue. |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 02:10 AM |
#4 |
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Past postings |
era veteran |
Feb-24-11 06:05 AM |
#27 |
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you wrote: |
grasswire |
Feb-24-11 02:07 AM |
#3 |
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Not to mention food deserts. Where there is little to none healthy food available |
Luminous Animal |
Feb-24-11 02:16 AM |
#5 |
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I'm not sure if this would even be feasible |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 02:23 AM |
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There are food activists who are doing that. And also establishing urban farms. |
Luminous Animal |
Feb-24-11 02:38 AM |
#17 |
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That cools. |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 02:47 AM |
#19 |
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Those are interesting ideas |
Dorian Gray |
Feb-24-11 06:51 AM |
#33 |
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We have that in New Haven. All of the farmers markets take food stamps. |
CTyankee |
Feb-24-11 07:27 AM |
#38 |
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Wow, that's Great!!! n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 07:29 AM |
#39 |
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Same here in Philly. All Farmer's Markets take the Food Stamp card, and the |
msanthrope |
Feb-24-11 05:50 PM |
#122 |
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It has been shown here before.. only affluent people can afford Farmer's Markets. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 01:50 PM |
#85 |
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No, there are proven models for providing affordability at farmers markets. |
Gormy Cuss |
Feb-24-11 08:20 PM |
#133 |
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I agree, |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 02:18 AM |
#7 |
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actually if you ate pasta and beans, |
DesertFlower |
Feb-24-11 02:37 AM |
#16 |
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Yeah, to hell with diabetics and hypoglycemics. I'm glad you know so much more than my doctor. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 01:52 PM |
#87 |
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of course if you have diabetes you |
DesertFlower |
Feb-24-11 03:06 PM |
#105 |
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No, you're making general prescriptions because you know better what everyone should have. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 03:11 PM |
#106 |
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i was giving an opinion. it was something i |
DesertFlower |
Feb-24-11 03:17 PM |
#108 |
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the hostility is coming from people who want to control those they see as beneath them. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 03:48 PM |
#112 |
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i never said anything about you being poor. |
DesertFlower |
Feb-24-11 04:21 PM |
#114 |
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Geeez, this isn't that complicated. Try to follow this... people on food stamps are poor. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 04:27 PM |
#115 |
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You said nothing offensive. Your observations upon reading the |
msanthrope |
Feb-24-11 05:54 PM |
#123 |
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thank you. nt |
DesertFlower |
Feb-24-11 11:08 PM |
#165 |
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Diabetics can eat pasta and beans. |
wickerwoman |
Feb-25-11 02:05 PM |
#180 |
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Who should I believe... you or my doctor? |
bobbolink |
Feb-25-11 04:01 PM |
#184 |
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If your doctor is telling you you can't eat any carbs |
wickerwoman |
Feb-25-11 09:21 PM |
#189 |
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I will listen to my doctor, thank you, My doctor shows a lot more concern. |
bobbolink |
Feb-26-11 02:37 PM |
#191 |
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Nanny State Much? |
Mojeoux |
Feb-24-11 02:18 AM |
#6 |
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Isn't giving people money to feed themselves already a Nanny State activity? |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-24-11 11:31 AM |
#70 |
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Yeah, fucking let 'em starve, Freddie, because your power trumps all. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 01:53 PM |
#88 |
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Of course not |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-24-11 02:02 PM |
#90 |
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The real waste is in the corporations that you support, and you know that, and you also know that WE |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 02:07 PM |
#93 |
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"RW calvinism" love it Bo! And who's gonna be the Food Stamp police? |
Mojeoux |
Feb-24-11 07:53 PM |
#127 |
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They will ALL want the job of being Food Stamp Police. Think how fulfilling it will be to call out |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:15 PM |
#131 |
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Rumsfeild admits they "lost" over a TRILLION in Iraq. |
Mojeoux |
Feb-24-11 08:34 PM |
#138 |
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Of course, but *this* one isn't about the RW. This is about people posing as "progressives" who |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:42 PM |
#141 |
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If we actually want to help people, wouldn't it make sense to make sure that the money is spent on |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-25-11 09:10 AM |
#171 |
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"Helping" people does NOT entail running their lives. Unless, of course, you think attacking and |
bobbolink |
Feb-25-11 01:57 PM |
#178 |
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Giving people money to spend on junk food instead of nutritious food isn't helping them either |
Freddie Stubbs |
Feb-25-11 03:41 PM |
#181 |
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Yes, more support for attacking and occupying other countries for "humanitarian reasons" |
bobbolink |
Feb-25-11 03:58 PM |
#182 |
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Farmer's Markets are part of the answer... |
Rabblevox |
Feb-24-11 02:25 AM |
#9 |
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What we need is a better way to get farm goods to those who do not have access to them |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 02:30 AM |
#14 |
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+1 absolutely correct! I forget how lucky I am to live somewhere... |
Rabblevox |
Feb-24-11 03:06 AM |
#21 |
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I live in Charlotte, but there is tons of farm land out side of the city. |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 03:09 AM |
#22 |
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I'm going to keep repeating this until all of you understand this... farmer's markets are for |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 01:55 PM |
#89 |
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I think it depends on where you live. |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 07:56 PM |
#128 |
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I've been to them in different locations, and it is all the same. They are Food Boutiques, and you |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:19 PM |
#132 |
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Not here |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 08:26 PM |
#136 |
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I said I've been to them in rural areas, but I guess you didn't want to see that part. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:31 PM |
#137 |
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I guess it depends what region of the country you are in? |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 08:39 PM |
#139 |
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So just take away the food. We don't need it anyway. We are willing to sacrifice for you and learn |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:40 PM |
#140 |
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There are in place effective ways to connect some low income people to fresh local produce. |
Gormy Cuss |
Feb-24-11 08:24 PM |
#135 |
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WIC gives us checks for the farmer market. I went and got blueberries and such. |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 10:02 PM |
#157 |
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Keep repeating it all you want. It still does not make it so in EVERY case. |
AngryOldDem |
Feb-25-11 04:00 PM |
#183 |
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The 99cent store has alot of bargains.... |
blueamy66 |
Feb-24-11 08:05 PM |
#130 |
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Learning to grow some fresh veggies would be good for everyone. |
amandabeech |
Feb-25-11 01:09 AM |
#169 |
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Communal gardens solve some of these problems. |
wickerwoman |
Feb-25-11 01:42 PM |
#175 |
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Those sound like good programs. |
amandabeech |
Feb-25-11 05:01 PM |
#186 |
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If we subsidized fruits & veggies as much as we subsidize HFCS |
rucky |
Feb-24-11 02:26 AM |
#10 |
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Should we tell you how you should spend your money? |
Lucian |
Feb-24-11 02:26 AM |
#11 |
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Lucian, did you read the whole post? n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 02:27 AM |
#12 |
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You really don't see a difference between the two scenarios? |
Very_Boring_Name |
Feb-24-11 04:34 AM |
#24 |
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Poor choice of words there. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-24-11 06:30 AM |
#29 |
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No, they're not entitled to it |
Very_Boring_Name |
Feb-24-11 12:13 PM |
#72 |
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Actually it is exactly an entitlement. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-24-11 12:41 PM |
#78 |
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Workers are entitled to their wages, qualified food stamp recipients aren't entitled to spend their |
Very_Boring_Name |
Feb-24-11 01:45 PM |
#84 |
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popcorn yes, beer no. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-24-11 02:39 PM |
#103 |
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You don't think beer counts as food? |
boppers |
Feb-24-11 06:18 PM |
#124 |
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Actually beer is not all that bad as a food. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-24-11 06:55 PM |
#125 |
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Um, those on food stamps are also entitled to them. |
Lucian |
Feb-24-11 10:24 AM |
#62 |
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I've been on food stamps, I was under no illusions |
Very_Boring_Name |
Feb-24-11 12:08 PM |
#71 |
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No actually it isn't a privilege. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-24-11 12:46 PM |
#79 |
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Yes actually it is a privilege |
Very_Boring_Name |
Feb-24-11 01:39 PM |
#83 |
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It is a "priviledge" for those who consider poor people of no value, and expendable. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 02:09 PM |
#94 |
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As a poor person, I resent your attitude. |
Rabblevox |
Feb-25-11 01:14 PM |
#174 |
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Have at it. |
bobbolink |
Feb-25-11 01:52 PM |
#176 |
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Who am I to decide for other people what they should or shouldn't be eating? |
pacalo |
Feb-24-11 02:27 AM |
#13 |
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Has it occurred to you that schools no longer teach cooking? |
aquart |
Feb-24-11 02:35 AM |
#15 |
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That was the point i was wrestling with... |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 02:44 AM |
#18 |
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You know, this is exactly what is so damming.... all of you sitting around deciding how to change |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 02:12 PM |
#95 |
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As someone who is of the current generation, cooking isn't rocket science |
Hippo_Tron |
Feb-24-11 09:41 PM |
#151 |
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I agree- there should be access to grocery stores in inner cities |
w8liftinglady |
Feb-24-11 03:50 AM |
#23 |
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I've done it - carried groceries in a folding shopping cart via public trans. |
Raksha |
Feb-24-11 02:15 PM |
#96 |
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Try doing it with two or three children, and ill health. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 04:28 PM |
#116 |
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I voted no in that other thread because I don't believe people should need food stamps. |
joshcryer |
Feb-24-11 04:42 AM |
#25 |
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So because the system isn't perfect, we should let poor people starve? Explain.. |
Rabblevox |
Feb-24-11 04:49 AM |
#26 |
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That we need a better society? |
joshcryer |
Feb-25-11 01:04 AM |
#167 |
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It isn't radical so much as it is divorced from reality. |
Warren Stupidity |
Feb-24-11 06:31 AM |
#30 |
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I think you missed the point of my comment. |
joshcryer |
Feb-25-11 01:05 AM |
#168 |
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have you ever lived on food stamps? i have.... and i can tell you something.... |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 06:23 AM |
#28 |
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You can' t buy potatoes with WIC? |
lumberjack_jeff |
Feb-24-11 08:50 AM |
#55 |
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as far as i know you can't buy candy with food stamps. at least here in ny. |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 09:56 AM |
#58 |
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Sweet potato oven fries are the yummiest thing in the world. n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Feb-24-11 02:04 PM |
#91 |
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You can buy potatoes with food stamps. |
former9thward |
Feb-24-11 02:44 PM |
#104 |
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on food stamps but not on WIC. only sweet potatoes. |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 03:31 PM |
#109 |
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Gotcha. I don't know anything about WIC. Seems strange though. |
former9thward |
Feb-24-11 03:41 PM |
#111 |
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turns out potatoes aren't that good for you. i did not know that. |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 05:37 PM |
#119 |
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So, we can please all of you by eating a diet of nothing but sweet potatoes? |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:47 PM |
#142 |
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I would like to know who gets to decide what people on food stamps can buy. |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 09:59 PM |
#156 |
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Obviously, it is the ones posting here who like to set themselves up as superior. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 10:05 PM |
#159 |
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The sweet potato is #1 in nutrition of all vegetables |
kwassa |
Feb-24-11 10:17 PM |
#162 |
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Hurrah! From now on, thats all people on Food Stamps are allowed to buy! |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 10:21 PM |
#164 |
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You can make vegetarian chili with kidney beans. |
amandabeech |
Feb-25-11 01:29 AM |
#170 |
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All those carbs are soOOO good for diabetics and hypoglycemics. |
bobbolink |
Feb-25-11 01:55 PM |
#177 |
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Bobbolink, I was replying to poster 119 who wanted to know what to do with kidney beans. |
amandabeech |
Feb-25-11 04:22 PM |
#185 |
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Thank you. My reply had to do with the ongoing superiority of "I could do , why can't you?" and |
bobbolink |
Feb-25-11 06:48 PM |
#187 |
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If some try hard and get a lucky break so that they can find a home, |
amandabeech |
Feb-25-11 09:14 PM |
#188 |
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When I was a kid, we received foodstamps |
eilen |
Feb-24-11 06:34 AM |
#31 |
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Just because you have an education in Home Economics |
exboyfil |
Feb-24-11 08:09 AM |
#45 |
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So, you are going to run for Food Stamp General? |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:49 PM |
#143 |
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Kids throw away a lot of food |
eilen |
Feb-25-11 12:26 PM |
#173 |
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I don't think you can tell people what to eat - |
TBF |
Feb-24-11 06:56 AM |
#34 |
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Define "junk food". |
baldguy |
Feb-24-11 06:59 AM |
#35 |
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It would be easy to come with with a precise definition using nutrient density per calorie |
jdp349 |
Feb-24-11 09:41 PM |
#152 |
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Why not increase the food stamp allotment? |
Starry Messenger |
Feb-24-11 07:02 AM |
#36 |
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Please read my whole post if you are going to criticize me . . |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 07:14 AM |
#37 |
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I believe you are sincere and I really don't like some of the comments directed at you here. |
CTyankee |
Feb-24-11 07:48 AM |
#41 |
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Thanks. :) |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 07:53 AM |
#42 |
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I see it your way. I feel that it is demeaning to say that poor people are just gonna feed their |
CTyankee |
Feb-24-11 08:10 AM |
#47 |
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that's a sad story, hopefully she did all right for herself. n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 08:13 AM |
#48 |
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I am on food stamps |
Littlecat |
Feb-24-11 08:04 AM |
#43 |
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Me too, I know a lot of states ban multi-vitamins also? |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 08:09 AM |
#46 |
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I think it's funny when people say |
Littlecat |
Feb-24-11 08:32 AM |
#51 |
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I am getting so sick and tired of this "my tax dollars" crap. |
Raksha |
Feb-24-11 02:29 PM |
#102 |
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you can't buy marshmallow peeps with food stamps. wth! |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 10:13 PM |
#161 |
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+1 n/t |
lumberjack_jeff |
Feb-24-11 08:51 AM |
#56 |
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they should use them to buy cadillacs |
datasuspect |
Feb-24-11 08:35 AM |
#52 |
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Duh! |
JVS |
Feb-24-11 10:48 AM |
#66 |
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I agree. |
Pithlet |
Feb-24-11 11:00 AM |
#67 |
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WIC tries this now |
Patiod |
Feb-24-11 10:02 AM |
#61 |
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It could have to do with sodium levels. I have found that "sauced" frozen vegetables |
CTyankee |
Feb-24-11 10:47 AM |
#65 |
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Actually, I use the labels to help me choose |
Patiod |
Feb-24-11 12:25 PM |
#74 |
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That's true, but hubby and I both are on blood pressure meds so it's important for us. |
CTyankee |
Feb-24-11 02:24 PM |
#99 |
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they only allow plain anything pretty much. nothing fancy. |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 10:03 PM |
#158 |
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K+R+ heart |
lapislzi |
Feb-24-11 10:38 AM |
#63 |
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Thanks for the heart and and encouragement! :) |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 10:41 AM |
#64 |
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My idea is to just ban junk food but I'm what you call a |
Shagbark Hickory |
Feb-24-11 11:16 AM |
#68 |
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Not in the Land of King Corn |
lapislzi |
Feb-24-11 12:49 PM |
#80 |
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Sure as hell got me to quit. And that was long before Obama's really big cig tax. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Feb-24-11 03:13 PM |
#107 |
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I WISH my daughter had less disposable income |
lapislzi |
Feb-24-11 03:35 PM |
#110 |
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I'm sorry to hear that. If it were up to me, tobacco would be banned. |
Shagbark Hickory |
Feb-24-11 05:45 PM |
#121 |
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As well intentioned as you are |
nadinbrzezinski |
Feb-24-11 12:52 PM |
#81 |
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When someone receives food stamps, it should be their choice |
MineralMan |
Feb-24-11 01:36 PM |
#82 |
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Why single out impoverished people? Lots of working class on food assistance |
leftstreet |
Feb-24-11 01:51 PM |
#86 |
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I think people should make their own choices.Poor people are still adults with rights |
old mark |
Feb-24-11 02:04 PM |
#92 |
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I love donuts, too |
lapislzi |
Feb-24-11 02:22 PM |
#97 |
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It may amaze you, but poor people can READ and many have some intelligence! |
old mark |
Feb-25-11 12:49 AM |
#166 |
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Thank you for a bit of sanity. However, as you can see, most here don't see poor people |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:51 PM |
#144 |
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I think it is a myth that junk food is cheap |
KurtNYC |
Feb-24-11 02:22 PM |
#98 |
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It might be safer to say high-carb foods and foods that are |
Nevernose |
Feb-24-11 09:38 PM |
#150 |
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Good ideas, complex issue n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 09:42 PM |
#153 |
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you asked for ideas... here they are. 1. Start by considering poor people as PEOPLE |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 02:28 PM |
#100 |
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There are many, many, MANY larger problems to think about. |
Zoeisright |
Feb-24-11 04:36 PM |
#118 |
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THANK YOU!! |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:52 PM |
#145 |
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I am not convinced this is a problem in the first place. I would rate it up there with welfare |
yellowcanine |
Feb-24-11 05:44 PM |
#120 |
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Study, schmudy. We gots our judgments to foment, donchaknow? |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:53 PM |
#146 |
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they must. just like they just sit back and collect welfare and don't even bother |
ejpoeta |
Feb-24-11 10:06 PM |
#160 |
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Is there anything more satisfying than telling people how to live their lives? |
ZombieHorde |
Feb-24-11 07:48 PM |
#126 |
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Here is what the original debate was about: |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 08:23 PM |
#134 |
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Setting up false dichotomies in order to judge more people isn't instructive. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 08:55 PM |
#147 |
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Ok, how do we raise food stamp allotment in the South? n/t |
Jmaxfie1 |
Feb-24-11 08:57 PM |
#148 |
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By having the guts to do so. |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 09:02 PM |
#149 |
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The same thing we pass get anything done. Threaten their highway funding and other pork. |
JVS |
Feb-24-11 09:43 PM |
#154 |
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There is a large Federal program to teach food stamp recipients how to do food budgets |
yellowcanine |
Feb-25-11 10:17 AM |
#172 |
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I've been on food stamps and sometimes a candy bar was the only pleasure |
U4ikLefty |
Feb-24-11 09:57 PM |
#155 |
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NO! You are supposed to suffer, goddammit!! |
bobbolink |
Feb-24-11 10:19 PM |
#163 |
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Or, like I posted in the other thread, |
xmas74 |
Feb-25-11 09:51 PM |
#190 |
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How about we increase food stamp allotment and let people decide for themselves what food they eat. |
Xicano |
Feb-25-11 02:01 PM |
#179 |
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