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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-23-11 09:36 PM
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Help debunk this anti-public worker e-mail.
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I received the following e-mail from a right leaning relative. I assume these kinds of e-mails are making the rounds. The following sounds like a fabrication to me. Please give me some specifics so I can fight back.



NO WONDER THESE PUBLIC EMPLOYEES CAN BE PROTESTING AND MISS DAYS OF WORK, LOOK AT THESE SALARIES!!!

Subject: FW: 2010 Teacher Actual Wages - Govt wages exposed

ATTACHED: This is the official excel DPI database of teachers wages by school district. Look up your own district !!!

The current budget repair bill would have them paying about 5.8% towards their own retirement....right now, we the taxpayer, pay 100% of their generous retirement, and most of us pay 100% of our own retirement too.

AVERAGE WAGE AND BENEFITS
(remember this is for about 185 DAYS OF WORK!)

TEACHERS:

Milwaukee $86,297

Elmbrook $91,065

Germantown $83,818

Hartland Arrowhead $90,285
(highest teacher was $122,952-lowest was $64,942)

Men. Falls $81,099

West Bend $82,153

Waukesha $92,902

Sussex $82,956

Mequon $95,297

Kettle Mor $87,676

Muskego $91,341

STAFF:

Arrowhead - Bus Mgr - Kopecky - $169,525

Arrowhead - Principal - Wieczorek
$152,519

Germantown - Asst Prin. - Dave Towers - $123,222

Elmbrook - Burliegh Elemetary - Principal Zahn- $142,315 (for a primary school!!)

Madison - Asst Principal - McGrath - $127,835

UNIVERSITY of WISCONSIN STAFF(2009) (salary alone):

Michael Knetter - Prof of Bus - $327,828

Carolyn Martin -Chancellor Mad- $437,000

Hector Deluca - Prof of Nutritional Science - $254,877 (really??)

(source:Madison.com -as the UW removed salaries from being posted online in 2007- why if they are so low?)

How about some other "public servant jobs"??? What do they make?

Madison Garbage men (2009) (salary only):

* Garbageman, Mr. Nelson earned $159,258 in 2009, including $109,892 in overtime and other pay.

* Garbageman, Greg Tatman, who earned $125,598

* 7 Madison garbage men made over $100,000

* 30 Madison garbage men made over $70,000

MILWAUKEE CITY BUS DRIVERS (salary only):

136 Drivers made more than $70,000

54 Drivers made more than $80,000

18 Drivers made more than $90,000

8 Drivers made more than $100,000. Top Driver made $117,000 (Source WTMJ)

(The average private bus driver makes $9-13 an hour (about 20,000 yr) with no pension, or healthcare).

AND WE ARE SUPPOSED TO CONTINUE PAYING 100% OF THEIR GENEROUS RETIREMENT

THEY HAVE SHUT DOWN SCHOOLS AS THEY DON'T WANT TO PAY 5.8% OF IT THEMSELVES ....REALLY?

Please send to everyone you know....

Thomas Jefferson said:

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them.




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  -Help debunk this anti-public worker e-mail. Enthusiast  Feb-23-11 09:36 PM   #0 
  - Damn straight garbage men should make over 70 grand a year  bluestateguy   Feb-23-11 09:39 PM   #1 
  - Maybe $70k in a city, but out here that's as much as a family with two good incomes makes.  TheWraith   Feb-23-11 10:09 PM   #5 
  - Principals and Assistant principals aren't union represented.  ingac70   Feb-23-11 09:40 PM   #2 
  - Fuckin' idiots never learn,  Enthusiast   Feb-24-11 05:04 AM   #15 
  - They've already agreed to the benefit and pension concessions.  MissB   Feb-23-11 09:43 PM   #3 
  - The idiots on your email list  Enthusiast   Feb-24-11 05:08 AM   #17 
  - I'd reply:  some guy   Feb-23-11 09:55 PM   #4 
  - I think the burden of social security payments is actually 100% on the employee.  Obamanaut   Feb-24-11 06:41 AM   #20 
  - You can download the uncherrypicked info here:  hay rick   Feb-23-11 10:14 PM   #6 
  - It looks like it started with this conservative columnist,if  sufrommich   Feb-23-11 10:24 PM   #7 
  - I started to respond to that bogus "columnist"  kevinbgoode   Feb-24-11 01:01 AM   #12 
  - I responded too, this was mine:  sufrommich   Feb-24-11 10:59 AM   #28 
  - Jesus Christ, what a birdcage liner that page is!  EstimatedProphet   Feb-24-11 11:30 AM   #29 
  - Did you try google?  shraby   Feb-23-11 10:35 PM   #8 
  - Average teacher's wages are nowhere near those listed.  PDJane   Feb-23-11 10:55 PM   #9 
  - There is no reliable source, these right wing emails never have  sufrommich   Feb-23-11 10:59 PM   #10 
  - I agree. They don't seem outrageous to me either.  Enthusiast   Feb-24-11 04:58 AM   #13 
  - Dog Eat Dog  roxiejules   Feb-24-11 12:30 AM   #11 
  - Divide and conquer. Isn't that they way  Enthusiast   Feb-24-11 05:01 AM   #14 
     - The Century of Self  roxiejules   Feb-24-11 09:03 AM   #23 
        - Thanks. I found that interesting. nt  Enthusiast   Feb-24-11 10:45 AM   #25 
  - Remove whoever sent that to you from your contacts. Problem resolved.  joshcryer   Feb-24-11 05:05 AM   #16 
  - Give them a CEO salary list.  joeunderdog   Feb-24-11 06:12 AM   #18 
  - Thanks. Nice post.  Enthusiast   Feb-24-11 06:31 AM   #19 
  - It's a very common anti-union tactic to list wages and benefits together, to make it look like the  Brickbat   Feb-24-11 06:49 AM   #21 
  - These are all very difficult jobs which all require a great deal of skill.  baldguy   Feb-24-11 06:55 AM   #22 
  - I agree, of course. nt  Enthusiast   Feb-24-11 10:48 AM   #26 
  - Why should jealousy negate union bargaining?  HereSince1628   Feb-24-11 09:11 AM   #24 
  - Ideally, the Tea Party would  Enthusiast   Feb-24-11 10:53 AM   #27 
  - politifact debunked a similar right-wing claim yesterday  JustinL   Feb-24-11 12:34 PM   #30 
     - Thank you, JustinL.  Enthusiast   Feb-25-11 03:02 AM   #31 
 

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