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Tue Dec-21-10 09:06 AM
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| 40. Either he takes his base for granted or... |
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he doesn't believe he needs them??
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| -What in the world is he thinking? A liberal critique of Barack Obama |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 06:40 AM |
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sadly, I think there is more truth in that than not |
DrDan |
Dec-21-10 07:02 AM |
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It is a sad conclusion, yes. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 10:39 AM |
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omg! you really nailed that one. |
Sheri |
Dec-21-10 07:02 AM |
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Thanks. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 12:38 PM |
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That's a lot of people's problems.... |
vi5 |
Dec-21-10 07:02 AM |
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Interesting analysis. I hadn't thought of it in that way. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 02:03 PM |
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I'm a cynic. I don't think it can be done. |
vi5 |
Dec-21-10 05:46 PM |
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I am a cynic too, but I can't be a fatalist. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 07:26 PM |
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The repukes have won the messaging and debate framing war....... |
BrklynLiberal |
Dec-21-10 07:05 AM |
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It's hard to know what to do at this point. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 02:26 PM |
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thereby acknowledging that no one supposedly more "liberal" |
nofurylike |
Dec-21-10 07:05 AM |
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I intend to address what I think people should do in my next essay. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 07:19 AM |
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thank you, i will. i look forward to that, then, Laelth. nt |
nofurylike |
Dec-21-10 07:27 AM |
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Excellent essay. |
DemReadingDU |
Dec-21-10 08:49 AM |
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Glad you enjoyed it. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 08:54 AM |
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P.S. |
DemReadingDU |
Dec-21-10 08:57 AM |
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Sweet. Got it. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 09:01 AM |
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it's progressively sliding into neo-liberalism. |
xchrom |
Dec-21-10 12:52 PM |
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+1 n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 04:49 PM |
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you know, we have been completely IN neo-liberalism for a long |
nofurylike |
Dec-22-10 01:59 AM |
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The left in the USA right now is nearly dead as an effective political group... |
old mark |
Dec-21-10 07:07 AM |
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I fully agree, as you know. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 07:22 AM |
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The "left" as in socialists and communists have been largely gone for at least a generation - |
TBF |
Dec-21-10 07:46 AM |
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I remember - I have an FBI file going back to the late 1960's...nt |
old mark |
Dec-21-10 08:16 AM |
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1 |
mdmc |
Dec-21-10 04:54 PM |
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Considering that his approval among Democrats is the highest among any modern Democratic President |
BzaDem |
Dec-21-10 07:37 AM |
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Yet. |
WinkyDink |
Dec-21-10 07:40 AM |
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All that "fact" illustrates is that the democratic party as most knew it is gone - |
TBF |
Dec-21-10 07:43 AM |
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"there are MANY people who are not satisfied" |
BzaDem |
Dec-21-10 07:48 AM |
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I Don't See It That Way |
NashVegas |
Dec-21-10 08:04 AM |
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That is probably a better way to put it - |
TBF |
Dec-21-10 10:01 AM |
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Anyone who is "satisfied" with the way our government is performing |
ladjf |
Dec-21-10 08:18 AM |
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Perhaps instead of assuming the vast majority of liberals and Democrats are "dumber than a rock" |
BzaDem |
Dec-21-10 08:38 AM |
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Perhaps you should reexamine and re-evaluate your own position, |
ladjf |
Dec-21-10 08:50 AM |
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Actually, it is true. |
BzaDem |
Dec-21-10 08:51 AM |
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You are apparently basing your reality on recent polls showing |
ladjf |
Dec-21-10 08:59 AM |
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Recent polls? How about polls since the day he was inaugurated, including Democratic pollsters? n/t |
BzaDem |
Dec-21-10 09:04 AM |
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I was a strong supporter of the President during his early days |
ladjf |
Dec-21-10 11:04 AM |
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Interesting thing about "approval"... |
Bigmack |
Dec-21-10 01:23 PM |
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The pony argument again? |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 08:13 PM |
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So we can hope for change in 2013? |
WinkyDink |
Dec-21-10 07:39 AM |
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Do you actually think there will be a President more liberal than Obama in the next, say, 30 years? |
BzaDem |
Dec-21-10 07:41 AM |
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Considering who controls government now, it will probably take a revolution to fix this mess. |
TBF |
Dec-21-10 07:45 AM |
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Why do you assume your "revolution" will be successful? |
BzaDem |
Dec-21-10 07:48 AM |
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It may well usher in an even more right-wing government, which is one of the |
TBF |
Dec-21-10 09:52 AM |
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so many are talking of massive actions, when they won't |
nofurylike |
Dec-21-10 07:53 AM |
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Of course there won't be! It's not a matter of liberal vs. conservative. |
bluethruandthru |
Dec-21-10 07:58 AM |
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Do you actually think you can predict the future say, 30 years out? |
Bluenorthwest |
Dec-21-10 09:02 AM |
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For sure? Of course not. |
BzaDem |
Dec-21-10 09:06 AM |
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way past labels. |
whattheidonot |
Dec-21-10 01:05 PM |
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I wouldn't count on it. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 03:45 PM |
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And so the formula is unmasked.. |
disillusioned73 |
Dec-21-10 07:51 AM |
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Sure, he's been "called" a liberal and a socialist. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 08:11 AM |
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He is the furthest from being a liberal of any Democratic President |
ladjf |
Dec-21-10 08:20 AM |
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As post-FDR Democrats go, I'd agree with you. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 08:38 AM |
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In fact my recent research on Eisenhower (who increased those eligible for Social Security) shows |
TBF |
Dec-21-10 09:43 AM |
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He was a Republican, maybe the last good one. nt |
ladjf |
Dec-21-10 11:05 AM |
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By "he" I was referring to Obama. Yes, Eisenhower was a republican - |
TBF |
Dec-21-10 12:04 PM |
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Yes, I agree. Sorry I misunderstood your post. nt |
ladjf |
Dec-21-10 01:45 PM |
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Being called a "Liberal" or worse and having an obstinate GOP simply gives cover to his moves |
KeepItReal |
Dec-21-10 08:22 AM |
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Naw it's all just a chess match. Proles like us couldn't hope to understand... |
leeroysphitz |
Dec-21-10 08:24 AM |
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You know, for two years I tried to believe in eleven-dimensional chess. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 09:10 PM |
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Either he takes his base for granted or... |
kentuck |
Dec-21-10 09:06 AM |
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I don't think he cares - as long as he has his wall street donations |
TBF |
Dec-21-10 09:45 AM |
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Or maybe he considers another group to be his base. n/t |
leeroysphitz |
Dec-21-10 11:15 AM |
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Here's the problem, what's good for Obama is disastrous for the Democratic party. |
fasttense |
Dec-21-10 09:25 AM |
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Obama is just another ambitious centrist pol with his eye on the next election. |
Tierra_y_Libertad |
Dec-21-10 09:57 AM |
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First, most everything I've seen and read coming out of the administration supports this. Second... |
Poll_Blind |
Dec-21-10 10:45 AM |
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more psycho bs ! |
democracy1st |
Dec-21-10 11:10 AM |
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Could you extrapolate just a sentence or two?? |
kentuck |
Dec-21-10 11:48 AM |
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Sorry for the vagueness I agree with Laelth's great piece! |
democracy1st |
Dec-22-10 05:54 AM |
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Thanks for the kind words. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-22-10 08:11 AM |
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Dope ! |
Bluebear |
Dec-22-10 03:47 AM |
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Well written and reasoned essay |
me b zola |
Dec-21-10 11:42 AM |
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Thanks. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 10:05 PM |
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not liberal |
whattheidonot |
Dec-21-10 12:47 PM |
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"Controlled depression." Interesting. You may be right about that. |
Laelth |
Dec-22-10 09:36 AM |
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that business where you outline the people in and around government |
xchrom |
Dec-21-10 12:57 PM |
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Agreed. Thanks for the kind words. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 07:49 PM |
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different critque |
creon |
Dec-21-10 08:34 PM |
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Your assesment is very generous. |
Laelth |
Dec-21-10 09:28 PM |
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no problem |
creon |
Dec-22-10 07:02 AM |
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governing far left is one thing |
Skittles |
Dec-22-10 02:06 AM |
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Agreed. And it's preposterous to suggest that Obama is governing far left. n/t |
Laelth |
Dec-23-10 09:31 AM |
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and as the economy sinks and jobs are harder to find |
newspeak |
Dec-22-10 11:05 AM |
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+1 |
democracy1st |
Dec-23-10 11:24 PM |
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Risky business at best. We will see in 2012. |
RegieRocker |
Dec-23-10 09:36 AM |
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