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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-19-11 09:15 AM
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26. I'm not sure what you're upset about?
My kids went through this and it makes sense. The kids get a chance to get exposed to a college level course in high school. The standardized test means that every school will get the same testing, so colleges will be able to quantify the grades. The grades come in on a scale of one to five. Three is a passing grade. You get a three and it means that you understood the essentials of the course. However, it doesn't mean that you automatically get college credit even if you do get a three or a four because not all colleges accept this system. Some of the high level colleges won't accept anything less than a five in passing.

Wow. I can't believe how you view this. I know my kids studied their asses off for these things. One more than the other and they only did moderately well. We didn't mind because we were glad they had a chance for the exposure.

Some of your opinions are just shocking. School system using tests as a weapon against students? If they don't perform well, like a good, little trained monkey? You are ROBBED of college credits?

This is one of the few times you can claim that ALL students are under the same program. But I'll tell you what isn't the same. Some parents will spend the extra money for tutors or special courses on the side because it's true that every child has their own hurdles to jump. If a kid knows he does bad on standardized exams, then he needs to prepare harder, taking those extra tutoring.
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  -Kids in my community who don't perform on standardized tests... CoffeeCat  Feb-18-11 01:30 PM   #0 
  - Are these standardized tests multiple choice?  Jim__   Feb-18-11 01:46 PM   #1 
  - Yes, these are the standard...  CoffeeCat   Feb-18-11 01:58 PM   #3 
  - You've got that right. I've seen the questions on the practice FCAT tests in  1monster   Feb-19-11 12:49 PM   #35 
  - I don't think so  Tyrs WolfDaemon   Feb-18-11 01:56 PM   #2 
  - SATs and CATs are 'standardized tests' and you can't even get into a college  Lance_Boyle   Feb-18-11 02:01 PM   #4 
  - I'm not talking about the SAT or the ACT...  CoffeeCat   Feb-18-11 02:18 PM   #5 
  - I may have misunderstood what tests you were referring to.  Lance_Boyle   Feb-18-11 02:23 PM   #6 
  - I understand your point better now...  CoffeeCat   Feb-18-11 02:32 PM   #7 
     - I think you'd need to find out *why* they do poorly on that test.  Lance_Boyle   Feb-18-11 02:41 PM   #8 
  - Florida has had this system since the Jeb years.  The Backlash Cometh   Feb-19-11 09:23 AM   #28 
  - I did REALLY well on the SAT's... 1480  XemaSab   Feb-18-11 03:20 PM   #15 
  - lots of colleges do not use them.  mopinko   Feb-19-11 09:22 AM   #27 
  - If they have the same IQ shouldn't they both do similarly well on the standardized test?  JVS   Feb-18-11 02:44 PM   #9 
  - I think the all-at-once-be-all-end-all nature of the end-of-year test  Lance_Boyle   Feb-18-11 02:51 PM   #11 
  - I've been in educational institutions in three countries and only in the US do I see this attitude..  JVS   Feb-18-11 03:15 PM   #14 
     - good point n/t  Lance_Boyle   Feb-18-11 04:08 PM   #17 
     - We're talking about HIGH SCHOOL students here, JVS, not doctoral candidates at Yale  Occulus   Feb-19-11 08:26 AM   #22 
        - If they can handle "college courses" then it's time for them to toughen the fuck up.  JVS   Feb-19-11 09:28 AM   #30 
  - Believe me, you must have no idea of how stupidly-constructed some of those tests are.  WinkyDink   Feb-18-11 02:51 PM   #12 
  - You assume I never had to take such tests when I was in school.  JVS   Feb-18-11 03:02 PM   #13 
  - Short answer, no. It just doesn't work that way. Some don't test well at all.  Occulus   Feb-19-11 08:22 AM   #21 
  - If you do a shitty job at work, you get fired as a punishment.  JVS   Feb-19-11 09:30 AM   #31 
  - High IQ doesn't guarantee high testing outcomes.  LWolf   Feb-19-11 01:31 PM   #37 
  - So you are saying the wipe the comunity college transcript?  ProgressiveProfessor   Feb-18-11 02:45 PM   #10 
  - YES....  CoffeeCat   Feb-19-11 07:29 AM   #19 
     - So NO they don't "wipe the transcripts". They don't transfer the credits.  KittyWampus   Feb-19-11 08:49 AM   #24 
  - How does the college put up with that?  XemaSab   Feb-18-11 03:33 PM   #16 
  - That was my reaction.  Johonny   Feb-18-11 04:15 PM   #18 
  - Well, the high school and the local community college...  CoffeeCat   Feb-19-11 07:36 AM   #20 
  - Because in college you are PAYING for the course. And you are expected to PASS the test.  KittyWampus   Feb-19-11 08:57 AM   #25 
     - Did you read the whole thread?  XemaSab   Feb-19-11 12:20 PM   #33 
     - I am really frustrated right now..  CoffeeCat   Feb-20-11 10:45 AM   #38 
  - Why should a college be FORCED to recognize credits from a student who doesn't do well on college  KittyWampus   Feb-19-11 08:45 AM   #23 
  - They're not college tests  XemaSab   Feb-19-11 12:23 PM   #34 
  - You have completely misunderstood...  CoffeeCat   Feb-20-11 10:52 AM   #39 
  - I'm not sure what you're upset about?  The Backlash Cometh   Feb-19-11 09:15 AM   #26 
  - It sounds like you are describing AP tests. OP mentioned standardized tests.  JVS   Feb-19-11 09:36 AM   # 
  - tests are  kpete   Feb-19-11 09:27 AM   #29 
  - ## PLEASE DONATE TO DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND! ##  DU GrovelBot   Feb-19-11 09:36 AM   #32 
  - If you are talking about AP credits, that's the way it has always been  Yo_Mama   Feb-19-11 01:22 PM   #36 
  - I'm not talking about AP courses or TESTS...  CoffeeCat   Feb-20-11 11:03 AM   #40 
     - Iowa Test of Basic Skills only goes K-8  Yo_Mama   Feb-20-11 06:59 PM   #46 
        - I am positive...  CoffeeCat   Feb-20-11 10:29 PM   #47 
  - OMG that's horrible.  proud2BlibKansan   Feb-20-11 11:04 AM   #41 
  - I'm so glad that you replied...  CoffeeCat   Feb-20-11 01:05 PM   #42 
     - I had 12 hours of college credit when I entered college  proud2BlibKansan   Feb-20-11 01:12 PM   #43 
  - Somebody needs to sue.  Lars39   Feb-20-11 02:12 PM   #44 
  - That's really strange - why do the colleges (the one awarding the credit and the one being  petronius   Feb-20-11 02:26 PM   #45 
 

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