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CrossChris Donating Member (641 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-17-11 11:20 AM
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33. I agree.
And I hope so!
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  -Does anybody think the NFL lockout is timed to go along with this nationwide anti-labor movement ? CrossChris  Feb-17-11 10:05 AM   #0 
  - Isn't public opinion with the players and not the owners on this?  no limit   Feb-17-11 10:07 AM   #1 
  - Yes, I think it's backfiring. But the owners do have supporters among more conservative types.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:09 AM   #4 
     - Thanks, Im not really paying much attention to it now. But I honestly dont think...  no limit   Feb-17-11 10:16 AM   #11 
     - They don't stand to lose much from a lockout, and would gain in the long run.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:29 AM   #20 
     - I hadn't really thought about the OP's point, but.............  socialist_n_TN   Feb-17-11 10:44 AM   #28 
     - Owners have already overplayed their hand  Missy Vixen   Feb-17-11 11:18 AM   #32 
        - I think Jerry Richardson thought by attacking Peyton Manning, he'd score some points.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 01:21 PM   #37 
  - Let go of the RW framing--labor is labor, management is management.  blondeatlast   Feb-17-11 10:07 AM   #2 
  - I agree. I think that's what they're trying to do with this--reframe the issue politically.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:12 AM   #6 
     - Could be--so we just push back harder. The AFL-CIO is doing quite  blondeatlast   Feb-17-11 10:17 AM   #12 
  - Ummmm ... no.  meegbear   Feb-17-11 10:08 AM   #3 
  - Care to explain why it's so obvious? I'm not saying I'm right, I just wanna hear why ...  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:15 AM   #9 
  - Nope, just a coincidence  Godhumor   Feb-17-11 10:10 AM   #5 
  - agreed  Motown_Johnny   Feb-17-11 10:14 AM   #8 
  - No, they are at the end of their most recent CBA  DefenseLawyer   Feb-17-11 10:14 AM   #7 
  - No, they weren't at the end of it. Owners voted to vacate it two years early.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:16 AM   #10 
  - No. The owners opted out of the CBA a long time ago.  AngryAmish   Feb-17-11 10:17 AM   #13 
  - They set the agreement up in 1993 and timed it to expire now to help the GOP destroy unions?  FSogol   Feb-17-11 10:17 AM   #14 
  - No, they voted to end it early. Maybe it wasn't that well coordinated, but they knew they could push  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:25 AM   #16 
  - If someone feels a comment is ridiculous, why waste time debating it or  FSogol   Feb-17-11 10:36 AM   #25 
  - RE: your last paragraph unfortunately, for some here, yes.............  socialist_n_TN   Feb-17-11 11:27 AM   #36 
  - Never underestimate the cleverness of the Republicans.  blondeatlast   Feb-17-11 10:27 AM   #17 
  - No...  SidDithers   Feb-17-11 10:19 AM   #15 
  - Thanks for the info, didn't realize it was mid 2008.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:27 AM   #18 
  - It is, and the players and all union members should try to take advantage of it.  dkofos   Feb-17-11 10:29 AM   #19 
  - I do think that if people rally around the players, it will have a positive impact on all labor  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:31 AM   #22 
     - It's up to the players to get the message out.  dkofos   Feb-17-11 11:10 AM   #30 
  - if people aren't pre-occupied with football...  lame54   Feb-17-11 10:29 AM   #21 
  - That's why I think that understanding the labor/mgmt relationship through the NFL is the best hope  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 10:32 AM   #23 
  - they are messing with a blue collar institution...  lame54   Feb-17-11 10:34 AM   #24 
     - I agree.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 11:20 AM   #33 
  - I doubt it, but one can hope.  dkofos   Feb-17-11 10:37 AM   #26 
  - does seem that way doesn't it. wondered it myself  dembotoz   Feb-17-11 10:41 AM   #27 
  - not sure it's timed  Johonny   Feb-17-11 11:05 AM   #29 
  - This is exactly what I think. Would not be surprised if the Koch bros knew some owners.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 03:22 PM   #38 
  - Of course it is -- along with the St. Louis Cardinals manager suggesting  rocktivity   Feb-17-11 11:18 AM   #31 
  - I had that thought for a split second. Probably just noticing everything anti-union that's out there  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 11:21 AM   #34 
  - I'd love to see sports teams go the way of the Packers...  OneGrassRoot   Feb-17-11 11:23 AM   #35 
  - No  Renew Deal   Feb-17-11 03:25 PM   #39 
  - Coincidence. The current agreement was going to be negoitated this year anyway  PVnRT   Feb-17-11 03:25 PM   #40 
  - No, the owners voted to break the agreement early. Hence my questions about timing.  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 03:46 PM   #42 
     - Um, they voted a long time ago (relatively speaking) to opt out of the CBA, as was negotiated  Godhumor   Feb-17-11 03:52 PM   #43 
        - Maybe the push was timed to go along w/ the NFL owners' push  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 04:22 PM   #44 
           - It is a coincidence. It would have to have been planned before the midterm elections  Godhumor   Feb-17-11 04:52 PM   #45 
  - It. Won't. Last.  DeSwiss   Feb-17-11 03:30 PM   #41 
  - Did I mention that Roger Goodell's wife is a FOX news reporter?  CrossChris   Feb-17-11 05:01 PM   #46 
  - Picket Lines are impressive with Pro Defensive Linemen up front !  RagAss   Feb-17-11 05:02 PM   #47 
 

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