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Wed Feb-16-11 01:16 PM
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| 27. Good, although I wish 25% of that money went to fusion research |
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That's the way of the future  Check out the Joint European Torus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joint_European_Torus |
| -Obama's $36 Billion Nuke-Powered Giveaway |
Donnachaidh |
Feb-16-11 09:53 AM |
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It staggers me that we're pursuing nuclear power, |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 10:00 AM |
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I am glad we are pursing nuclear power. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 10:03 AM |
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Just let those future people deal with the toxic wasteland we leave |
Avant Guardian |
Feb-16-11 10:07 AM |
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Toxic wasteland? Your lifetime total power consumption (not just electricity but all energy) |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 10:12 AM |
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And yet the Community where the Mr. and I grew up is swimming in NUKE Waste and... |
Tikki |
Feb-16-11 10:36 AM |
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Nuclear weapons or nuclear power? Of course there is a distinction. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 10:47 AM |
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NUKE power only!!!...then why do we care that 'some' Countries are... |
Tikki |
Feb-16-11 12:19 PM |
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Can you back those decay #'s? This graph seems at odds with your post. |
Wilms |
Feb-16-11 10:50 AM |
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Actuallly that chart pefectly backs me up. The chart is logarithmic. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 11:19 AM |
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How long before you can sit next to a spent fuel rod? n/t |
Wilms |
Feb-16-11 12:19 PM |
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How long before you can sit next to raw uranium or radon gas? n/t |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 12:23 PM |
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Well gee, now that you mention... |
Wilms |
Feb-16-11 12:47 PM |
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Sure. There are risks to a lot of things. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 02:06 PM |
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At what point need you not worry about it? |
Wilms |
Feb-16-11 03:12 PM |
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The National Academy of Sciences and the EPA says it has to be contained for a million years |
bananas |
Feb-16-11 04:34 PM |
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Excellent reply, explained so even a layman like me can understand it. Thanks for the post. |
apocalypsehow |
Feb-16-11 12:19 PM |
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Don't be fooled by the flashy graphics. |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 01:33 PM |
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Except the National Academy of Sciences and the EPA say it has to be contained for a million years |
bananas |
Feb-16-11 04:46 PM |
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The chart is factually straight-forward: it stands un-refuted. Period. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Feb-16-11 05:24 PM |
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Here, let me refute it for you, |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 05:30 PM |
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a rare intelligent, informed post on the subject. nt |
GSLevel9 |
Feb-16-11 01:25 PM |
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Yes, it is, and note also that the only negative "replies" to it consist of personal attacks on the |
apocalypsehow |
Feb-16-11 02:24 PM |
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I guess you missed all those links to governmental and educational publications I have up. |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 03:04 PM |
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A soda can of nuclear waste? |
Avant Guardian |
Feb-16-11 05:41 PM |
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Wow. This post wins most anti-science post of the day. |
Statistical |
Feb-17-11 07:37 AM |
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Our fossil fuel plants have already created a "toxic wasteland." |
hunter |
Feb-16-11 10:49 AM |
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Spoken like an industry spokesperson, |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 12:23 PM |
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Wow. The amazing thing is that absolutely nothing you said in that entire post is true. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 12:35 PM |
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Trying to be the master of misdirection, aren't you. |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 01:06 PM |
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23 years without reprocessing. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 02:14 PM |
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And again, it more expensive than wind, solar or water, |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 02:19 PM |
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Hydro is limited in capacity. We have already dammed virtually every possible river. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 02:24 PM |
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I see that you haven't done any reading at the the Stanford link. |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 02:44 PM |
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The duke study on solar power was end user cost not total cost. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 03:06 PM |
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Oh, you want to talk subsidies? |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 03:51 PM |
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"Meanwhile, solar subsidies amount to what. . . One billion dollars." |
NickB79 |
Feb-16-11 03:56 PM |
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Here from the DOE. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 04:07 PM |
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Nope. You are comparing apples and oranges. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 04:03 PM |
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Umm, are you even reading your own sources? |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 04:37 PM |
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Feb-16-11 01:56 PM |
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$36 billion or $0 billion? So far the $18.5 billion allocated by Bush has cost taxpayers $0.00 |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 10:05 AM |
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You're full of great information this morning Donna! |
jillan |
Feb-16-11 10:05 AM |
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Build one in Chicago |
upi402 |
Feb-16-11 10:09 AM |
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You mean right next to the Tony Rezco side lot??? |
Peregrine Took |
Feb-16-11 11:46 AM |
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Cheney set the stage for this, and it's worse than you can imagine |
Atman |
Feb-16-11 11:51 AM |
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Nuclear energy IS the green-powered future. nt |
Codeine |
Feb-16-11 12:38 PM |
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AMEN! |
Rebubula |
Feb-16-11 01:06 PM |
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Really? |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 01:09 PM |
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It's not Green, it's not needed, it's one of the worst options available. nt |
bananas |
Feb-16-11 04:40 PM |
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Spot-on observation. The bottom line is that anti-nuclear = anti-environment/Green. Period. n/t. |
apocalypsehow |
Feb-16-11 01:15 PM |
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Except for this, |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 01:32 PM |
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I know I'm hitting it pretty close to the mark when the personal attacks start flying. |
apocalypsehow |
Feb-16-11 01:37 PM |
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"Personal attacks start flying?" And where did I personally attack you? |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 01:55 PM |
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Nope - nuclear is not Green, it's green-washed - the Greens are against it |
bananas |
Feb-16-11 04:43 PM |
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Yep - Nuclear power is the cleanest, Greenest kind of energy available for human use, period. |
apocalypsehow |
Feb-16-11 04:50 PM |
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OK then, would you care to discuss these following issues, |
MadHound |
Feb-16-11 05:13 PM |
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+1...nt |
SidDithers |
Feb-16-11 01:30 PM |
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+1. |
Statistical |
Feb-16-11 02:03 PM |
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The only thing green about current nuclear energy is the radioactive |
Rex |
Feb-16-11 02:44 PM |
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Good, although I wish 25% of that money went to fusion research |
snooper2 |
Feb-16-11 01:16 PM |
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Feb-16-11 02:08 PM |
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Low cost uranium will be used up by 2055 |
Scruffy1 |
Feb-16-11 04:24 PM |
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